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Don't take my skepticism of the 'no planes' theory to mean that I think the planes brought the buildings down. Those buildings were brought down by some kind of explosives. They were 'pulled'. It certainly was an inside job and most likely done by our dual government whose loyalties do not lie with our nation but with a miserable little nation called Israel.
I also feel that it goes way beyond loyalties to Israel. They are on a fast track to take away all our liberties and the constitution our father died to implement. It is the NWO and they desire power.
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Seems that the laws of physics were suspended on 9/11/2001. The good General thinks that the puffs of dust that blew out sequentially from the floors just below the point of collapse in the building were demolition charges set to go off sequentially. Those puffs of smoke could also have been caused by the top of the building, which did not turn into a dust cloud, descending on the lower floors and compressing the gasses in those floors just prior to their dustification. The big mystery is what really caused most of the buildings to turn into dust, and the rest of it to melt into pools of iron underneath all the dust and rubble. Those pools of molten iron stayed molten for weeks or months even. How much energy would it take to do all that? My guess is a hell of a lot of energy. Far more than a single plane could deliver in an impact, unless the plane was carrying some kind of nuclear device. But then what was that big boom everybody heard below each of the buildings just before the collapse started? If you want a clue, go google some images of the Fiterman building on 911. This was the building across the street from WTC7. Look at the damage to that building. And keep in mind that no plane hit WTC7. That damage begs for some kind of explanation.
Hatha
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joboo
There's no doubt I believe he thinks what he thinks is true. Thing is, did he watch loose change, and listen to Alex Jones, and endless regurgitation's of that plastered across the net, and come to the same conclusions? That's the question.
He makes no new points, and provides no new evidence other than what everyone already knows found freely available on the internet. The problem is once you make a conclusion you will perceive any evidence to match it. That method of thinking is a trap imo.
However in his case he has decades of intelligence experience, knows how the military operates from the inside, knows all about command and control, and is presumably non-reactionary, level-headed, rational, and objective.
In other words, both his experience and presumed character qualities mean that because he has vetted his information from his perspective and endorsed it, the evidence gains credibility rather than the endorsement taking credibility from him. Of course it's exactly the opposite for people biased against the whole thing.
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Serpo
I dont remember them finding any bodies on the pentagon lawn
There have been many high speed plane crashes where they simply don't find bodies, or much of the plane for that matter. People have a tendency to atomize back into water vapor under immense forces. Sounds crazy but it's true.
We are entering the information revolution in mankind's history. How people think is way more important to me than what people think. People are constantly bombarded by information, and the mind comes up with fast type thinking to cope with it.
So much in fact that some people can't fully escape the process. These types need to retrain themselves back into slow brain thinking. It's essentially a mess for some.
How you're thinking about something is a scenario few give much thought... i.e. really think about.
The assumption was seeded by loose change, then preached (literally..as in cult) ad naseum by Alex Jones, and parroted again, and again far and wide.
The bottom line is they had airplanes...they most definitely used them, and all the evidence points to it.
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vacuum
However in his case he has decades of intelligence experience, knows how the military operates from the inside, knows all about command and control, and is presumably non-reactionary, level-headed, rational, and objective.
In other words, both his experience and presumed character qualities mean that because he has vetted his information from his perspective and endorsed it, the evidence gains credibility rather than the endorsement taking credibility from him. Of course it's exactly the opposite for people biased against the whole thing.
His experience, from what he described, is taking arial footage of landscapes for intelligence. He says says he's visual....well so am I, so are a lot of people, in fact most are.
He could be the most rational person in the world, but if he is forming conclusions with false information the whole thing is moot.
You can't read all kinds of data into an equation based on blind assumptions you think could/should be true.
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joboo
There have been many high speed plane crashes where they simply don't find bodies, or much of the plane for that matter. People have a tendency to atomize back into water vapor under immense forces. Sounds crazy but it's true.
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Links, examples?
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Israel recruits 'army of bloggers' to combat anti-Zionist Web sites
Israelis who speak a second language to represent Israel on 'problematic' Websites in new Absorption Ministry program.
By Cnaan Liphshiz | Jan.19, 2009 | 1:37 AM | http://www.haaretz.com/images/icons/comment.png 12
The Immigrant Absorption Ministry announced on Sunday it was setting up an "army of bloggers," to be made up of Israelis who speak a second language, to represent Israel in "anti-Zionist blogs" in English, French, Spanish and German.
The program's first volunteer was Sandrine Pitousi, 31, from Kfar Maimon, situated five kilometers from Gaza. "I heard about the project over the radio and decided to join because I'm living in the middle of the conflict," she said.
Before hanging up the phone prematurely following a Color Red rocket alert, Pitousi, who immigrated to Israel from France in 1993, said she had some experience with public relations from managing a production company.
"During the war, we looked for a way to contribute to the effort," the ministry's director general, Erez Halfon, told Haaretz. "We turned to this enormous reservoir of more than a million people with a second mother tongue." Other languages in which bloggers are sought include Russian and Portuguese.
Halfon said volunteers who send the Absorption Ministry their contact details by e-mail, at media@moia.gov.il, will be registered according to language, and then passed on to the Foreign Ministry's media department, whose personnel will direct the volunteers to Web sites deemed "problematic." ie gsus ;D
Within 30 minutes of announcing the program, which was approved by the Foreign Ministry on Sunday, five volunteers were already in touch, Halfon said.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...sites-1.268393
also.........http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/10...israeli-shill/
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JohnQPublic
Links, examples?
911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/compare/jetcrashdebris.html
If the forces are enough to break steel, and hardened aluminum into tiny microscopic fragmented pieces, you can bet skin, and bone is going to be no contest by comparison. The forces involved are so immense it's hard to fully comprehend. Add fire to the mix, and there's very little/nothing left to find after the fact.
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Hatha Sunahara
Seems that the laws of physics were suspended on 9/11/2001. The good General thinks that the puffs of dust that blew out sequentially from the floors just below the point of collapse in the building were demolition charges set to go off sequentially. Those puffs of smoke could also have been caused by the top of the building, which did not turn into a dust cloud, descending on the lower floors and compressing the gasses in those floors just prior to their dustification. The big mystery is what really caused most of the buildings to turn into dust, and the rest of it to melt into pools of iron underneath all the dust and rubble. Those pools of molten iron stayed molten for weeks or months even. How much energy would it take to do all that? My guess is a hell of a lot of energy. Far more than a single plane could deliver in an impact, unless the plane was carrying some kind of nuclear device. But then what was that big boom everybody heard below each of the buildings just before the collapse started? If you want a clue, go google some images of the Fiterman building on 911. This was the building across the street from WTC7. Look at the damage to that building. And keep in mind that no plane hit WTC7. That damage begs for some kind of explanation.
Hatha
Neither plane impact, focal floor collapse or fire brought those massive overbuilt towers down, not by a long shot.
Fact: WTC 1 & 2 were built with 600% load redundancy. The work energy created by the falling top could not collapse the building beneath it - it was simply impossible.
Fact: Steel only weakens and melts well above 1200 degrees F. And the heat must be highly concentrated - think a blast furnace. An office fire burns no hotter than 450 degrees F. Nowhere in this galaxy could such a fire even get the massive steel members in the towers red hot, let alone melt, because of the heat wicking effect of the steel skeleton.
Fact: Molten steel quickly cools and solidifies at ambient temperatures, within minutes to hours. Molten steel in lakes was witnessed by multiple firemen underneath the collapsed towers weeks after 911. This is de facto proof of eutectic molten metal, ongoing thermite/thermate reactions.
Fact: Thermate was detected in the rubble widely. And the steel showed severe sulfuric corrosion, or sulfurization, proof of thermate combustion.
WTC 1, 2 & 7 were indisputably brought down by controlled demolition and therefore, 911 was an inside job. Anyone who would dispute this is either misinformed, uninformed or a disinformation shill working indirectly or directly for the very people who committed this crime against the United States.
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joboo
911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/compare/jetcrashdebris.html
If the forces are enough to break steel, and hardened aluminum into tiny microscopic fragmented pieces, you can bet skin, and bone is going to be no contest by comparison. The forces involved are so immense it's hard to fully comprehend. Add fire to the mix, and there's very little/nothing left to find after the fact.
Yeah sure - you're so damn smart. It's a good thing that Mohommad Atta's passport survived the impact in virtual pristine condition. Obviously, it was fabricated out of fire-resistent high-tensile paper and plastic.
Moron.