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sunshine05
Some on ATS were discussing the fact that it's odd that there are no reported injuries, only deaths. Meaning the shooter was very skilled for no one to have survived.
Yes it makes you wonder where these people get their training doesn't it?
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Originally Posted by
sunshine05
Some on ATS were discussing the fact that it's odd that there are no reported injuries, only deaths. Meaning the shooter was very skilled for no one to have survived.
I don't think it is odd, when you are shooting 5 to 10 yr. olds, its easy to get a kill, skill really? no skill involved just hate and metal retardation, what a sick bastard, fine shoot your MOM but why shoot a bunch of little kids?
I am glad the shooter is dead. to bad he couldn't have suffered a little bit before he died.
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Originally Posted by
sunshine05
Some on ATS were discussing the fact that it's odd that there are no reported injuries, only deaths. Meaning the shooter was very skilled for no one to have survived.
There was the one (and only one as far as I can tell) reported injury where the woman was shot in the leg or foot.
I've been trying to wrap my head around the situation despite the lack of info in that area - was those really his mother's guns, or did he use his brother's ID to purchase them? Where did the spare mags come from? Did he purchase those himself? If not, who bought all those evil black guns?? If he made this purchases himself (over $2,000 in cost for just the three guns), where did he get the money to do so? If he did buy all these himself (acquire the guns, spare mags, and ammo), how did a kid growing up in a non-rural area have a clue about what guns to buy? If this 20 y.o. was somehow 'knowledgeable' about guns, did he intentionally purchase the much more deadly personal defense ammo like Golden Sabers, Winchester Ranger, etc. (this would account for no children surviving)?
And most importantly, what was his history of taking meds and what meds had he been taking recently??
So many questions and of course we're going to be left in the dark in order to further a certain agenda.
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Anyone want to take a bet that this kid was on anti-depressants?
Just check out this video to see how bad these things are and tell me he didn't display the behavior this doctor talks about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBJfZ...ature=youtu.be
Link--> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBJfZ...ature=youtu.be
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Originally Posted by
zap
I don't think it is odd, when you are shooting 5 to 10 yr. olds, its easy to get a kill, skill really? no skill involved just hate and metal retardation, what a sick bastard, fine shoot your MOM but why shoot a bunch of little kids?
I am glad the shooter is dead. to bad he couldn't have suffered a little bit before he died.
I'm just saying that if he was under mind control (MKUltra) he may have just been a patsy. Someone else may have done the shooting and then shot him.
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Originally Posted by
sunshine05
I'm just saying that if he was under mind control (MKUltra) he may have just been a patsy. Someone else may have done the shooting and then shot him.
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I'am not sure how to form this into a question, but if someone else could have done ALL THAT, then why not just leave the gun and walk away.
People under their own mind can't carry out this kind of stuff on orders.
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Lets not forget there were 2 gunmen.
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I'm thinking that (just about) the ONLY way for someone to get to such a dark place in their own mind (that they are willing to kill young children) is via pharmaceuticals. (Kurt Vonnegut referred to this sort of condition as "having bad chemicals in his head" in his work Breakfast of Champions)
Hell's bells, just witness all the Big Pharma ads where the 'side effects' include..."thoughts of suicide" - and OF COURSE if someone is having suicidal thoughts they are ALSO having HOMICIDAL thoughts*. Duh!
*fucking NATURALLY those Big Pharma ads are NEVER, EVER going to mention "side effects include...thoughts of homicide" - but ya know those kind of thoughts just go hand in hand, like peas and carrots
SURELY I'm not the only one thinking of this, however those with the (bully) pulpit are going to keep it to themselves - or get fired.
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Tell me, why does the MSM detail the exact nature & names of the guns used?
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Horn
Tell me, why does the MSM detail the exact nature & names of the guns used?
Because it perfectly suits their agenda of gun control since all three guns are (evil), black, accept hi-cap mags, and are ONLY intended for killing large numbers of people* - which are precisely the ones they want to ban.
*a revolver is more than sufficient for "self-defense inside your home"
These fuckers are on a roll, they have their spiel down pat this go 'round.
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midnight rambler
Because it perfectly suits their agenda of gun control since all three guns are (evil), black, accept hi-cap mags, and are ONLY intended for killing large numbers of people* - which are precisely the ones they want to ban.
*a revolver is more than sufficient for 'self-defense inside your home'
Amazing how some crazed man would take the time to select different calibers.
How it has any relevance to the case at this point, eludes me.
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Horn
Amazing how some crazed man would take the time to select different calibers.
How it has any relevance to the case at this point, eludes me.
I have not seen any reference in any accounts as to the calibers of the two pistols he used - have you a link indicating that?
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Originally Posted by
midnight rambler
I'm thinking that (just about) the ONLY way for someone to get to such a dark place in their own mind (that they are willing to kill young children) is via pharmaceuticals. (Kurt Vonnegut referred to this sort of condition as "having bad chemicals in his head" in his work Breakfast of Champions)
Hell's bells, just witness all the Big Pharma ads where the 'side effects' include..."thoughts of suicide" - and OF COURSE if someone is having suicidal thoughts they are ALSO having HOMICIDAL thoughts*. Duh!
*fucking NATURALLY those Big Pharma ads are NEVER, EVER going to mention "side effects include...thoughts of homicide" - but ya know those kind of thoughts just go hand in hand, like peas and carrots
SURELY I'm not the only one thinking of this, however those with the (bully) pulpit are going to keep it to themselves - or get fired.
Spot on.
http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/...ad.php?t=26951
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Time to take the guns on a boating trip..........
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Originally Posted by
midnight rambler
I have not seen any reference in any accounts as to the calibers of the two pistols he used - have you a link indicating that?
The entire story doesn't make sense for three different weapons and tactical garb, its full of holes in that aspect.
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The second gunman totally changes the entire story. No longer is it a madman that snapped, it's organized. When something is organized, it doesn't matter if weapons are legal or not.
Not to mention, the fact that two people would agree to kill kindergarteners opens up an entirely different discussion.
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Horn
The entire story doesn't make sense for three different weapons and tactical garb, its full of holes in that aspect.
The only thing I've found so far ID'ed the Glock as a 9mm, no info on caliber of Sig that I've seen thus far.
All news reports are saying that all guns including AR were 'registered' (Conn. requires a permit for the purchase of handguns apparently) to Nancy Lanza the shooter's mother. I cannot imagine a mother who teaches/is a teacher's assistant/whatever of kindergarteners purchasing three such evil black guns (ESPECIALLY the AR) - except perhaps to appease her younger son somehow.
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midnight rambler
I have not seen any reference in any accounts as to the calibers of the two pistols he used - have you a link indicating that?
9 mm Glock and 9 mm Sig Sauer handguns found at scene. .232 Buckmaster rifle found in car.
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Originally Posted by
midnight rambler
The only thing I've found so far ID'ed the Glock as a 9mm, no info on caliber of Sig that I've seen thus far.
All news reports are saying that all guns including AR were 'registered' (Conn. requires a permit for the purchase of handguns apparently) to Nancy Lanza the shooter's mother. I cannot imagine a mother who teaches/is a teacher's assistant/whatever of kindergarteners purchasing three such evil black guns (ESPECIALLY the AR) - except perhaps to appease her younger son somehow.
The "facts" are all over the place in these articles. I've seen one article that 4 firearms were found. Another states that his mother was NOT the teacher but possibly volunteered at the school at one point and was shot to death in her home.
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An official with knowledge of the situation said the shooter was armed with a .223-caliber rifle. Four weapons in total were recovered from the scene. The motive is not yet known.
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Originally Posted by
sunshine05
The "facts" are all over the place in these articles. I've seen one article that 4 firearms were found. Another states that his mother was NOT the teacher but possibly volunteered at the school at one point and was shot to death in her home.
This article has a lot more detail about the family, and insight about the shooter. It indicates the mother as a "former" teacher at the school. Implications from earlier TV stories was that she IS a teacher, and he went to her classroom. You're right, a lot of questionable information.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...1220752?pgno=1
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Originally Posted by
midnight rambler
The only thing I've found so far ID'ed the Glock as a 9mm, no info on caliber of Sig that I've seen thus far.
All news reports are saying that all guns including AR were 'registered' (Conn. requires a permit for the purchase of handguns apparently) to Nancy Lanza the shooter's mother. I cannot imagine a mother who teaches/is a teacher's assistant/whatever of kindergarteners purchasing three such evil black guns (ESPECIALLY the AR) - except perhaps to appease her younger son somehow.
The level of reporting just insults intelligence, as there is absolutely no investigative interviews of eyewitness at all. Its all how do you feel questions.
Its only a review of Connecticut's gun laws.
Any question of off base bias here?
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Originally Posted by
sunshine05
An official with knowledge of the situation said the shooter was armed with a .223-caliber rifle. Four weapons in total were recovered from the scene. The motive is not yet known.
This article says the shooter "then went to nearby Sandy Hook Elementary School where she taught and gunned down her entire class"
The NY Post article identifies her as a "former" teacher at the school.
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Horn
The level of reporting just insults intelligence, as there is absolutely no investigative interviews of eyewitness at all.
Its only a review of Connecticut's gun laws.
Any question of off base bias here?
Maybe reporters aren't allowed within 500 meters of the scene? And all witnesses are securely in custody?
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Sparky
This article has a lot more detail about the family, and insight about the shooter. It indicates the mother as a "former" teacher at the school. Implications from earlier TV stories was that she IS a teacher, and he went to her classroom. You're right, a lot of questionable information.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...1220752?pgno=1
Holy shit! The mother was receiving alimony payments from her ex of nearly $300K annually.
It appears the mother bought the three guns and allowed her "deeply disturbed" son unfettered access to those guns. Clearly an inexcusable failure to exercise intelligence or sound judgment under the circumstances.
It is also noteworthy that the shooter was a 'gamer'.
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Sparky
9 mm Glock and 9 mm Sig Sauer handguns found at scene. .232 Buckmaster rifle found in car.
Bushmaster .223?
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Originally Posted by
midnight rambler
Holy shit! The mother was receiving alimony payments from her ex of nearly $300K annually.
It appears the mother bought the three guns and allowed her "deeply disturbed" son unfettered access to those guns. Clearly an inexcusable failure to exercise intelligence or sound judgment under the circumstances.
It is also noteworthy that the shooter was a 'gamer'.
that does seem to be a common theme...prozac and video games....so its the guns we need to go after ::)
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Looks like all gun owners will be given mental evaluations as to their right to own.
Any found to harbor any neglect or animosity towards the collective us.gov will be denied... as that is mental....
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Important youtube clips can be saved:
http://keepvid.com/
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Shami-Amourae
It's fucking hilarious how anti-gunners are saying "shoot gunowners" and shit.
Shoot them with what? Guns?
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sirgonzo420
It's fucking hilarious how anti-gunners are saying "shoot gunowners" and shit.
Shoot them with what? Guns?
The ones advocating going to an NRA meeting and shooting everyone are kind of funny when you think about it
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Libertarian_Guard
Bushmaster .223?
Yes, I'll go back and correct my post. Thanks.
Edit: Damn, it won't let me edit.
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sirgonzo420
Uh yeah, you don't have rights; just loopholes.
You just made a sig-worthy quote... dontcha know!
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sirgonzo420
It's fucking hilarious how anti-gunners are saying "shoot gunowners" and shit.
Shoot them with what? Guns?
You do realize those are all shills working for the folks directly responsible for this tragedy, right?
It's called follow-up Public Relations.
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Now they are saying parents aren't allowed to view their slain children who will lay where they fell till Sunday for the "investigation"
Sounds like some weird kind of three day ritual thing going on to me considering the supposed shooter is dead.
WTF?
8:06 p.m.: Vance, speaking to CNN's Soledad O'Brien, says they'll be processing the crime scene until Sunday and that the bodies of the children and adults killed remain in the school where they fell, and will still be there until Sunday. Parents have not been allowed to see the bodies of their children. "We will leave no stone unturned" in pursuit of answering the questions of how and why this happened, says Vance. At this time he would not confirm the name of the shooter or whether he had "a personality disorder" or "a mental disorder."
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...hooting/59999/
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old steel
Now they are saying parents aren't allowed to view their slain children who will lay where they fell till Sunday for the "investigation"
Sounds like some weird kind of three day ritual thing going on to me considering the supposed shooter is dead.
WTF?
8:06 p.m.: Vance, speaking to CNN's Soledad O'Brien, says they'll be processing the crime scene until Sunday and that the bodies of the children and adults killed remain in the school where they fell, and will still be there until Sunday. Parents have not been allowed to see the bodies of
their children. "We will leave no stone unturned" in pursuit of answering the questions of how and why this happened, says Vance. At this time he would not confirm the name of the shooter or whether he had "a personality disorder" or "a mental disorder."
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...hooting/59999/
Obviously it wasn't their children, they were just custodians for the state... This is sick!
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Originally Posted by
old steel
Now they are saying parents aren't allowed to view their slain children who will lay where they fell till Sunday for the "investigation"
Sounds like some weird kind of three day ritual thing going on to me considering the supposed shooter is dead.
WTF?
8:06 p.m.: Vance, speaking to CNN's Soledad O'Brien, says they'll be processing the crime scene until Sunday and that the bodies of the children and adults killed remain in the school where they fell, and will still be there until Sunday. Parents have not been allowed to see the bodies of their children. "We will leave no stone unturned" in pursuit of answering the questions of how and why this happened, says Vance. At this time he would not confirm the name of the shooter or whether he had "a personality disorder" or "a mental disorder."
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...hooting/59999/
Totally, incomprehensibly, f*cked up behavior.
To the average person, suggesting this was a false flag makes you look insane. However, if news of what is going on right now is spread, it might just make them realize something is really wrong here.
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Originally Posted by
old steel
Now they are saying parents aren't allowed to view their slain children who will lay where they fell till Sunday for the "investigation"
Sounds like some weird kind of three day ritual thing going on to me considering the supposed shooter is dead.
WTF?
8:06 p.m.: Vance, speaking to CNN's Soledad O'Brien, says they'll be processing the crime scene until Sunday and that the bodies of the children and adults killed remain in the school where they fell, and will still be there until Sunday. Parents have not been allowed to see the bodies of their children. "We will leave no stone unturned" in pursuit of answering the questions of how and why this happened, says Vance. At this time he would not confirm the name of the shooter or whether he had "a personality disorder" or "a mental disorder."
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...hooting/59999/
Now we watch as the M$M largely ignores this demonic activity as it strains at gnats and swallows elephants.