That's the loose change thing with a completely fabricated video tossed on top. The video at 2:35 is as fake as it gets.Quote:
Originally Posted by steel_ag
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That's the loose change thing with a completely fabricated video tossed on top. The video at 2:35 is as fake as it gets.Quote:
Originally Posted by steel_ag
I'm still galloping in April.Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
Alan Sabrosky 100% Sure Israel did 9-11 follow up interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X2Ad8pX12Q
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Originally Posted by steel_ag
Yeah, April fools perhaps. A bad CGI reproduction at best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXC1aTZhxhMQuote:
Originally Posted by joboo
Feel free to google the wreckage photos, and tell me those pieces inside the building were just randomly laid about here there, and everywhere...
...better yet...when.
No way.
Her criteria is no seats or luggage outside on the lawn = no plane. No fuel on her also rules out a missile with a fuel payload.Quote:
Originally Posted by steel_ag
Whether or not she recalls any metal debris is up the the individual to determine what state of shock she was in v.s. what she remembers. The are photos showing debris all over the place.
The question has to be asked when did they plant all the plane wreckage, and all that debris on the ground, and what took down the five light poles, and what gouged out that semi circle in the concrete near the generator?
Guys running around knocking (not cutting) down light poles (with what?) on the highway with cars driving by all over the place?
Seems insane to imagine someone casually going around smashing, and shearing down light poles right by a highway, and onto the highway, like that.
What piece of equipment could do that without leaving tire tracks in the grass all over the place?
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Originally Posted by joboo
Nothing special about this quote of yours, it's pretty much sounds the same as all the others you post, and is only being used so as to let others know who this video is being directed at. Enjoy shill............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEGgAk1AbA4
Indeed....Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ppfinal.html
If only joboo could destroy a Samsonite,
these modern cruise missiles with all their equivalents to airplane parts couldn't either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C-e96m4730
A link with a bunch of people saying they saw a plane. Ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by steel_ag
What took down the light poles? What peice equipment did that?
When did they plant all the wreckage?
Everyone keeps dodging those questions.
This is the only aspect of it that I'm questioning Blink. Maybe you missed that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink
Try to answer the questions I'm posing above.
Sometimes you have to look at the evidence, and make a conclusion that one is likely, and the other a billion times more far fetched.
Crazy even.
If you can't answer those questions, you have no right to call anyone a shill. Seems like you are perhaps shilling for something.
You do realize if the plane sheared off five light poles the wing profile would be messed up significantly right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpo
The article you posted seems to have missed that.
What difference does it make?Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
When anything hitting the Pentagon would be an inside job, Batman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU8tZZzRWdM
It makes a big difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horn
People who look at evidence with a level head have a lot more credibility compared to those that trend off into wild assumptions.
Some people are hell bent on driving home the notion of the "those crazy moonbat truthers" in the minds of others. They deserve the label.
One step forward two steps back.
Are you speaking in the 3rd person by witnessing yourself with this statement?Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
I haven't seen any wild assumptions on thread, though there have been diversionary tactics used by some to introduce collateral damage as evidence while ignoring the main crime, and crime scene.
That crime being a complacent Pentagon, and its tiny hole in a wall.
It's one of the biggest aspects of this event that continually decimates credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horn
It was touted as the opening premise of this thread by the interviewer.
The evidence for a missile is weak at best. It's not being a shill to point that out.
It's the same thing as September Clues the no planers...big thanks to those dingbats.
Maybe they released only a few frames on purpose to see how many people would come up with crazy ideas?
It seems to have worked extremely well, some are playing right into it.
A few things remain constant, the timeline for planting wreckage all over the place, light poles getting sheared off by some piece of invisible mystery equipment, and highway being right there with eyes, and ears all over the place.
At some point common sense plays a part that those things need to be addressed instead of playing the "it was a missile" narrative over, and over again.
Pentagon 911 http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm
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.http://www.trbimg.com/img-5029862c/t...sh-201-001/600Quote:
Aug. 16, 1987, Cichan was aboard Northwest Airlines Flight 25, which crashed in the Detroit suburb of Romulus near Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport, killing 154 people on board. Two people also died on the ground.
The Phoenix-bound plane had just lifted off at 8:46 p.m., when its left wing clipped a light pole, sending the damaged airliner into a tumble of death. The McDonnell Douglas MD-80 sheared off the top off a rental car building, leaving a half-mile-long trail of bodies, charred wreckage, magazines and trays of food along Middlebelt Road.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/14/nation/la-na-nn-sole-survivor-detroit-plane-crash-20120813
Notice all the little yellow body sacks.
I've been through this before in the past and now my standard retort/question is.....show me the turbine engines, show me the video that was seized etc...etc...
What does it for me is the pinpoint accuracy without scaring the front lawn, and after coming down an embankment to the base of the building.Quote:
Originally Posted by Libertytree
As if it were laser guided, and had all those computerized self guidance systems to keep it at a certain height.
Shot of what else was in the way.
http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013...6ab-s6-c10.jpg
Speed is a huge factor. "The Phoenix-bound plane had just lifted off at 8:46 p.m."Quote:
Originally Posted by Horn
Nope your dead wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
Flight 77 could Not have been doing more speed than it,
with the turn that it just made and the altitude which all the eyewitnesses saw it flying.
If it were going full speed at that altitude there would've been no eyewitnesses.
And yet we have a completely destroyed plane with soft tissue body parts laying around in the Phoenix bound case.
A sophisticated cruise missile is capable of all these difficult flight paths, including accelerating to maximum velocity in seconds.
Could you explain the pic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Libertarian_Guard
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/p.../path_map3.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Horn
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/p...ocs/hole11.jpg
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/p...s/delmont1.jpg
The argument for how it came in I don't see as a compelling argument for a missile.
Why couldn't they just hit it with a plane from any angle on that side? It would have the same effect.
All they had to do was simply fly an airplane into it. They had plenty of them at their disposal.
I don't see why a huge elaborate scheme had to be devised with scattering wreckage all over the place inside and out, and magically knocking down light poles on both sides of a highway, and right onto the highway, somehow without leaving a trace of anything or anyone doing it for everyone driving by to witness.
Devising that plan like that as a "viable op" is so far fetched.
Edit: look at the first picture where the light poles are (yellow dots)
Who, or better yet, what drove around to all those, and smashed them up shearing them off without even leaving a trace?
What is even capable of doing that, and who in their right mind would try to pull that off right across a highway like that?
No one would plan such a thing and hope to get away with it.
You need to research cruise missiles more,Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
as far as light poles and other whatnot's collateral, they could've simply been blown out of the way from its last burst to hyper drive.
I'm not saying that was the case, but could have been given the angle of descent down the embankment.
In fact a cruise missile should attack as a falcon attacks, in a spiral, as its calculating its target.
A Haji will go straight for it, like any dumbass religiously programmed human would, if he knew how to fly in the first place...
and most definitely nose the big bird onto its roof or miss it completely in a flyover.
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Originally Posted by Horn
Nothing got blown out of the way. They were torqued off, as in impacted with something, and sheared...knocked over and torn apart. The force required to do that via air would send cars flying all over the place on the highway with smashed windows. It would kill people on the highway like a bomb going off.
You can't use the bad pilot narrative as proof of anything if they were a fabrication in the first place.
I can't be sure, but I'll guess that what looks like a curb with a broken section is a concrete slab blown off the exterior wall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Libertytree
A better question might be......why is the industrial cable/tubing still standing? Was ALL the energy of the explosion directed inward?
At least that picture shows the proper impact damage dimensions rather than the deceptive loose change tiny hole version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Libertarian_Guard
Where were those spools beforehand? That needs to be determined. Were they stacked off to the side? There would be one heck of an air disturbance with a plane that size roaring in at 400+mph
Three of them are already in the position to roll easily. Were they all?
The look like they were off the the right and followed the air currents towards the impact hole.
To scale,
and the lawn mowers were probably cutting the grass there 2 weeks afterwards.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/im.../911_90_01.jpg
Now you're just being a batcase with your crazy ideas of torque.Attachment 4411Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
http://aneta.org/theories/Pentagon/L..._base_crop.jpg
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All the while diverting us from the primary crime scene.
There is not a single light pole that shows any signs of torque.
Far away foam covered pics does not mean there wasn't debris. Anything impacting the building will cause debris...which is why I find Steel_Ag's video very inconsistent re: no debris.
When you slam an airplane into a brick skinned container (building) at over 400mph pretty much all of it is going to end up there. There was debris all over the place. To say there wasn't needs to be immediately followed up with some ideas of when did they plant so much of it without anyone noticing?
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/p...tcollapse1.jpg
Really. Hmm. Caused by air disturbance... Sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horn
Bottom end...sheared. torqued until it ripped apart, and in pieces.
http://911review.org/brad.com/pentag...DSC_0472-1.JPG
http://911review.org/brad.com/pentag..._0472-1-c1.JPG
[img]http://911review.org/brad.com/pentag...s/pent12-o.JPG
closeup of above...sheared right off:
http://911review.org/brad.com/pentag...t12_close2.JPG
Broken into three pieces:
http://911review.org/brad.com/pentag...tpoles/022.JPG
Super thrusters on a missile caused that eh?