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Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
Ryan Bundy’s opening statement
Ryan Bundy’s Opening Statement, Las Vegas, 15 November 2017
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Ryan Bundy’s Opening Statement, Las Vegas, 15 November 2017
Thanks the jurors for being here. Told you a little about myself at voir dire, but I’d like to introduce myself a little more, and tell you about my heritage and how that affects my case. (Projects a picture of his family – AND leaves it up throughout his statement!)
This is my ID! Not my driver’s license. This is who I am, a man with a family and I’ll do whatever it takes to provide for them. I want you to picture in your minds…you’re out on the land…I’ll take you to our ranch, you can see all the beauty of the land, the fresh air, sunsets and sunrises, the brush, you’re on a horse in front of the cattle – place yourself there – feel the freedom – out of the congestion of the cars – that’s how I was raised, playing in the river, we were called riverrats and that is where my life began and I hope ends.
My family has been on that land 141 years, my pioneer ancestors settled there in 1877 – there was nothing there. They carved out a living…they brought a horse and wagon and some provisions…this case, the gov mentioned is “not about rights”, but it is – those rights do mean something – rights are created through beneficial use. When my ancestors arrived, undoubtedly the horse would need a drink, so they lead him to the water and that is beneficial use. The horse and perhaps a cow that had been lead behind the wagon need eat some brush in the hills, that is beneficial use. That established rights. The water rights are real! So real, the State of NV has a water rights registry including livestock watering rights. A law was created to protect those rights. The water rights that my father owns were first registered in 1891 by the State of NV – the State of NV is important, a sovereign state, it’s own unit, which entered the union in _____ It entered equal to the original states, it is it’s own entity and state laws are important.
My family and I are charged with some grievous things and they are not true and evidence will show they are not; force, manipulation, extortion, violent – my family is not a violent family and I am not a violent man. For 20+ years we turned to local law enforcement. Rights are real property. The fact is that we create gov to protect rights.
To have rights you must claim, use and defend…man only has rights he is willing to claim, use and defend.
There is a difference between rights and privileges. Rights you own. Privilege is afforded. Like renting or owning a house. Gov asserts there are no rights, only privileges and unless we pay, we can’t be there. The State of NV says differently. These are my father’s rights. Everything we have comes from the land. That is wealth, not the dollar bill. The things we use all come from the land. Who controls the land, controls the wealth.
We create gov to preserve and serve us. These are some of the beliefs of my family. That we have said we will do whatever it takes to defend is not a threat, it is a statement. Being right here before you today is part of doing whatever it takes. The Founding Fathers pledged whatever it would take…their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to defend rights. With the evidence you will see that is what we were doing; there was no conspiracy to impede, to harm…but, to protect our heritage that our pioneer ancestors established. We were attacked, surrounded by what appeared to be mercenaries, snipers pointed directly at me. You will hear a report from a sniper that he was keeping watch of me in my van with my wife and two of my daughters with me.
Our ranch – children are always welcome – it is a place to play, play in the river, the pond, chase or hunt rabbits, burn your toes in the hot sand in summer – always free. Never before did we feel like someone was always watching. In early spring of 2014 we felt like someone was always watching…the dogs were watching the hills, when you are always with a dog you get to know what they are saying with their bark…you can tell by their bark what they are seeing…surveillance cameras on one hill, but the dog looking at another and growling…(tearfully) This is not what America is supposed to be. Supposed to be a land of liberty. The Founding Fathers fought and bled so we wouldn’t have to and now we find ourselves in a similar situation.
They say this issue is over grazing fees…it’s terrible, terrible, he must be a freeloader – it’s only rhetoric – I’ll tell you why – You don’t pay rent when you own your home! We own those rights! Not the land, I know we don’t own the land, but access…you and others have rights on that land. We own water and grazing rights.
We don’t pay rent for something we own.
The BLM was formed in 1960. Our rights were established in 1877, long before BLM. The original states own 100% of their land and all states were to come in on equal footing. The crux of the issue is are we a state or not? They say grazing is a privilege they can revoke and charge fees. If it is only a matter of money it is no problem. In fact, Mr. Whipple showed a copy of a check made out to Clark County. If the whole purpose is to show we owe a fee, then we’ll pay to the proper owner of the land. That was not the only check written to Clark County, we sent several. Also, in Clark County, there were 53 ranchers who owned rights.
There is only a single one still out on the range.
The BLM is not gaining revenue, it’s not important to them. My father could see they were there to manage him out of business. It’s not about grazing fees. In the
BLM office there were signs that read: No more Moo by ’92 and Cattle Free by ’93! If it were only about the grazing fees, the fees would have been under $100,000 over 25 years. It is rumored, it may not be seen in evidence, but it is rumored that they spent $6 million on the operation. Who spends that and court costs rumored to be over $100 million to collect $100,000?
What is this about? The court orders. They say my father had and opportunity in the courts. The court wouldn’t consider states rights. They have forgotten they are servants of the people. We the people are the sovereign and ultimately, we the people are the gov formed to meet needs that are better met by a group than by individuals. We are not slaves. We need to remember that. I think that’s forgotten. The definition of freedom is lost in America. When we have to have a license or ask permission to do everything, we are subjects.
Back to the charges – they claimed I went to Richfield and that the sheriff had to be called because we were causing such a ruckus – evidence will show otherwise – we boycott to influence to change ways – we protest to cause a change – these are first amendment rights – we do not get rights from the Bill of Rights – we have rights to begin with – it should be called the Prohibition of Gov – we have freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, we can petition for a redress of grievances – rights we don’t want the gov to mess with.
A redress is to find an answer, find a solution – one way to protest. The BLM put up first amendment zones – not much bigger than this courtroom – we called them pig pens – by creating that area, they were denying our right everywhere else – that’s what they used to arrest my brother – he was outside the pig pens. The first amendment has been protected over and over again in our history. There’s lots of media in the gallery today, they wouldn’t be happy to have their right to free speech taken. First amendment was put in the Supreme Law of the land, the Constitution – they shall make no law restricting these things…as you saw in the video yesterday, my brother was not impeding, not blocking, he was on a state road, on it’s right of way, simply to take pictures with his ipad of them stealing our cattle – they attacked him, threw him to the ground, rubbed his face in the ground. (emotional)
The American public saw this and came not to impede or do harm. They came because they felt the spirit of the Lord, spirit of freedom and felt “we the people are
not going to put up with that behavior”. It was not pointed out there were snipers on the hill, I witnessed that through binoculars and the evidence will show this.
Back to Richfield, UT, evidence and witness testimony will show there was not a ruckus there that disrupted or shut down that auction. I called the sheriff – that’s the pattern – the local LE and state brand inspectors in NV, AZ and UT and I had contact with the hwy patrol, county commissioners in several counties and state officials – not all face to face, but some through phone calls. Is this what a criminal does? No. We were there protecting life, liberty, property. You saw the video of them hip chucking my Aunt Margaret, 50+ years of and just finished with cancer treatments, the mother of 11 children. They call these BLM guys LE, but they are just BLM employees. All authority comes from we the people, we delegate authority to the county sheriff who we elect and he hires deputies and we then have a sheriff’s department to protect our life, our liberty, our property. Choosing for yourself is freedom and we have no right to impede or harm others. That’s God’s law. Man-made law is to follow that. Man is supposed to be free, not controlled, serfs or slaves. Gov is to be our servant. The gov went in and shut down 600,000 acres – not one of us ever went into their enclosed area and never impeded them. Even my brother driving into the dump truck…isn’t that impediment? The court order did not allow destruction of water infrastructure.
What was a dump truck doing out there? Since that was beyond the scope of the supposed court order, we had a right to know. They could have stopped and answered our questions, but no, they set out attack dogs and tazers and threw Aunt Margaret to the ground. Every incident they are charging us with happened on property that belonged to the State of NV. Even if BLM had authority to close public land, they have no authority to close State of NV public land. The fence was on the State of NV land. Except by invitation, you will not see one of us breach that fence or impede the gather. We did not violate the court order. Dav went over the fence by the invitation of Dan Love and then the sheriff took over and asked for our help to take down the fence and then the cowboys, led by sheriff’s squad cars went to release the cattle. The sheriff honored his oath and did his job.
He should have done it sooner.
I love my family. I love them. I love this land. I love freedom. I am from the State of NV. I’m a true Nevadan. I mentioned before that NV became a state on Oct. 31st and we always got out of school on that day…I always thought we got out because it was my birthday. I’m a true Nevadan. I believe you are, too and love freedom as much as I do. Freedom’s not being lost overseas – it’s lost right here at home in our back yards, our front yards. Until we are willing to do whatever it takes, liberty will be, is being lost. We are not anti-government! Gov has it’s proper place and duties to perform. I want gov to do it’s job. Nothing more. Nothing less. When gov does more or less than it’s job, it becomes the criminal. When gov damages our rights, it becomes the criminal. When someone harms or damages another’s life, liberty or property that is the definition of a criminal. Extortion, violence, pointing guns – everything we are charged with, they were doing and 1000s came running – the world knew about this – China, Ireland (they sent us a flag), New Zealand and other countries – why? Because America stood for freedom and has for years and the world is interested in seeing how America (emotional) will deal with freedom. The world wants to know. The American people said, “yes, we will stand for freedom.
Gov, you’ve gone too far and we will put a stop to it.” The courts have a place. It is said that We the People are the fourth branch of gov. I say we are the first. The legislature to make laws, the executive to execute laws and the judicial to judge. All three branches are to protect your rights, our rights, freedom, liberty. Gov does not have the authority in and of itself – man creates gov to fulfill and protect rights. We the people give gov the authority through the Constitution. The tenth amendment insures state’s rights.
Evidence will show my father and my brothers are innocent men. We need you to put on that paper that we are not guilty. You are the twelve to represent us, peers, equals, people…we the people. Guns…lots of guns…scary…camo…freedom of speech…also, the right to bear arms, the second amendment…a militia was necessary. What is a militia? It is defined in the law. U.S. Code defines militia: “all able bodied men 17-45 years of age”. How many of you are a member of the militia? State of NV extended that and includes men up to the age of 64.
How many of you now are a member of the NV militia? There is the organized militia, the National Guard and the unorganized militia – everyone else.
Why did the Founding Fathers include the second amendment? Was it for duck hunting? No…no! Militia is mentioned six times in the Constitution. Such a small document and few things are mentioned more than the militia; the central gov of this union and yet media or whatever wants to put a bad face on militia.
Why did militia come to Bundy Ranch? To peacefully assemble, redress of grievances. No one was harmed except Davey, Ammon and Margaret. You will not see in evidence that we ever harmed anyone! They attack and we turned the other cheek. We were peaceful – insistent? Yes! And, Yes! Demanding. These men, these people did not come to seek and opportunity to point guns at gov. Hundreds, even thousands of people we didn’t know. That’s exemplary. These people came to do good. To protect me, to save my life. I had a sniper pointing at me, 200 armed men surrounding my home, my family (tearfully) Ryan Payne has been portrayed as a bad man. Evidence will show otherwise.
He saved my life. He saved my life. Others came. I didn’t even meet most of them until I was in jail with them, may have seen them in passing, but I didn’t know them until jail. I honor and thank them now! I thank all who came. We only have rights we are willing to fight for. You’ll see evidence that I was nearly always with the sheriff or a deputy – always in communication with them – I was side-by-side with Lombardo.
Thank you for coming, for being here. I will still do whatever it takes. This is not a threat, it is determination. I love my freedom. Listen to the still small voice to discern between truth and error. The indictment and grand jury testimony is full of lies. Truth has been blocked in previous trials. Listen closely – we will try to get you the truth. The truth will set me free and I’m counting on you to help me see that.
I invite you to our ranch. I recognize your right to use the land. We want you to come and enjoy it. I thank you for this time. Please find me not guilty and these other men not guilty. Stand up for freedom.
Thank you.
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More dirty tricks from .gov persecutors
Case 2:16-cr-00046-GMN-PAL Document 2880 Filed 11/19/17 Page 1 – 5
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2:16-CR-0046-GMN-PAL
Renewed Motion to Exclude Irrelevant Evidence
If Bundy is permitted to introduce evidence of water rights, the government would need to introduce case law regarding res judicata and water rights. This will slow down the trial even further.
To this end, Cliven Bundy has submitted a notice of expert on water rights. Dkt. 2826. His testimony should not be permitted, nor should the Court allow any other evidence of water rights, fencing laws, open range laws, and so on.
Steven W. Myhre
Acting United States Attorney
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Comment: there is a world of case law out there assumed to be valid. The Constitutionality of much of this case law has never been challenged.
Monty
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The nonsensical world of the U.S. District Court as seen by Loren Edward Pearce
The Nonsensical World Of Federal District Court
WHERE INNOCENCE IS GUILT AND GUILT IS INNOCENCE, WHERE PUNISHMENT IS NON-PUNISHMENT, WHERE SPEEDY IS SLOW, WHERE ILLUSION IS REALITY
November 20, 2017 Constitution, DOJ, Nevada, Opinion
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Entering The Nonsensical World Of Federal District Court
by Loren Edward Pearce
As I entered the rectangular metal detector, passing through the security at the entrance to the federal district court in Las Vegas, I was reminded of Alice Through the Looking Glass (mirror) where, after passing through the mirror, what is right is left, where up is down, or as Alice put it, “Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn’t. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn’t be. And what it wouldn’t be, it would.”
Likewise, in federal district court, I have observed what Alice observed: Where innocence is guilt and guilt is innocence, where punishment is non-punishment, where speedy is slow, where illusion is reality, where protections for the accused are replaced by protections for the accuser, where sexual abuse is security and safety, where oaths to tell the truth are licenses to tell lies. The world of the federal district court is a world of inconsistencies and contradictions.
Innocence is Guilt
On November 14, 2017, as federal Judge Navarro read instructions to the jury, she stated very emphatically, “The defendants are to be presumed innocent and you are not to come to any conclusions about guilt until you have heard all the facts admitted to you.”
However, the previous day, in denying Ammon Bundy’s motion for release from prison, Navarro read from her original order in which she ordered pre-trial prison for Ammon and other defendants. Navarro quoted the order in which she declared that there was “clear and convincing evidence” that Ammon Bundy was a danger to society and a flight risk and no condition nor combination of conditions were adequate and sufficient to guarantee Ammon would not be a danger to the community nor a flight risk while awaiting trial.
Ammon and other defendants are being charged with being dangerous, of using threats, intimidation and at the point of a gun barrel, preventing federal employees from engaging in their lawful duties.
In the nonsensical world of Navarro, she declares him innocent until proven guilty, while at the same time, declares him to be too dangerous, as charged, to be free while preparing for trial. In the Alice in Wonderland world of Navarro, Ammon is not alleged to be dangerous, he is, by clear and convincing evidence, guilty of the charges brought by the prosecution and she has declared Ammon guilty as charged, pending trial, and has thrown Ammon (and the others) into prison until he can later prove his innocence to her in a detention hearing.
Making Clear and Convincing More Unclear and Unconvincing
As Navarro quoted from her earlier order that originally condemned Ammon and others to over 650 days of pretrial prison, she declared that it was by clear and convincing evidence of dangerousness that she had justified their imprisonment. However, she never said what that clear and convincing evidence was on which she presumed guilt until they could be proven innocent.
Essentially, like the Queen of Hearts of Alice in Wonderland, her mere say so was sufficient and “off with his head” or “off to prison” needed nothing more than her discretion and her opinion to trigger her henchmen to enforce her orders.
Adding insult to injury, Navarro backed up her unsubstantiated claims of clear and convincing evidence of dangerousness by citing Ammon’s behavior while in court imposed prison in which he was accused of committing 11 violations of prison rules, violations deemed by the private, for profit prison to be of a grave and serious nature.
The violations? Taking a prison library thumb drive with him to protect the many hours of trial preparation and of discovery essential for his defense that, if left in the library, was subject to tampering and erasure. Putting a T-shirt over his eyes to sleep in the glaring lights of the prison dormitory and arguing with a prison guard about it. Refusing to voluntarily undress for strip searches and their attendant sexual violation. Not threatening to be violent or physically resist, but to merely lay passive while prison guards undress him for their sexual abuse.
All these violations formed the basis of Navarro’s denial of pretrial release and her declaration that “no condition nor combination of conditions” could assure that Ammon would not be a danger to the community.
Catch 22
Closely related to Alice’s world of nonsense, is what is known as a Catch 22.
A catch-22 is a paradoxical situation from which an individual cannot escape because of contradictory rules. The term was coined by Joseph Heller, who used it in his 1961 novel Catch-22.
An example is:
“How am I supposed to gain experience [to find a good job] if I’m constantly turned down for not having any?”
The catch 22 for Ammon was that he was not supposed to be in pretrial prison to start with, he was not convicted and therefore protected by all the Bill of Rights, including freedom from unreasonable, sexually abusive cavity and naked body searches.
Yet, like the Queen of Hearts, Navarro is punishing Ammon for exercising his rights as an innocent citizen which paradoxically and unavoidably violate prison rules. Navarro has declared to the jury that Ammon is innocent unitl proven guilty while at the same time subjecting him to the restrictions and horrors of prison that prevent him from proving his innocence and preparing a defense.
“How can I defend myself with all my defense stored on a thumb drive which is subject to being erased by other prisoners or prison staff?” The very definition of Catch 22.
Illusion is Reality
Ammon Bundy is quoted as saying, “The beautiful thing about the truth, is that it so easy to tell.”
Applying that to himself, without any disrespect for the other defendants or any judgment of them, Ammon, along with Cliven, has chosen to appear in court with his orange prison inmate apparel.
For Ammon, the reality is that he is wrongfully imprisoned, the reality is that he is being treated like a convicted prisoner. The orange prison apparel screams at the jury and all the world the truth! Opposite of what Navarro is telling the jury about a presumption of innocence, there sits Ammon in his orange prison garb, found guilty already by Navarro until he can maybe prove his innocence.
In a world of nonsense, in a world of lies and deception, in a world that is upside down, things are made to appear as what they are not and to not appear as what they really are.
Let us pray for the day that Ammon and the others will step through the looking glass (mirror) and enter a world of justice and truth, as free men.
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Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
John Lamb, today's mid-day update. Lots of evidence of entrapment ~ Vallet Forge News Network
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Bryan Hyde’s assessment of this morning’s court session Nov. 20 ~ Valley Forge News Network
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from 10/30, haven't listened, 2hr:
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Guests: Patricia Aiken and Brian aka Brizer
Las Vegas; The Bundy Ranch trials and more.
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John Lamb end of day 9 Nov. 20 ~J Grady 24 minutes
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Bryan Hyde talks about the prosecution’s attempt ot paint Cliven Bundy as a very dangerous man ~J Grady
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John Lamb Day 10, government still hiding information Nov. 21 ~ J Grady
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Cliven Bundy Trial - Ryan Bundy, Threat Assessment, DThorn sentencing JLamb w/ KStewart - 11/21/17 ~ Valley Forge News Network
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Bryan Hyde with a quick update on the happenings in the courtroom this morning,
Bryan Hyde, Ryan Bundy schools federal gov on the Constitution
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Trial of the Century – Opening Statements
CLIVEN'S ATTORNEY BRET WHIPPLE WAS ALSO ABLE TO INFORM THE JURY OF SEVERAL FACTS THAT HAD NOT BEEN DISCLOSED BEFORE.
November 21, 2017 BLM, Constitution, Featured 1
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Trial of the Century – Opening Statements
by Terry Noonkester
The Bundy trial in Las Vegas, Nevada is now underway, the list of potential witnesses is well over one thousand. The rules of the court exclude all the Bundy family and supporters that are on that potential witness list from being in the courtroom during any part of the trial, until after their own testimony has been given. Yet the courtroom was packed on November 14th and 15th. The press took up about two rows of the courtroom benches, and had come from across the nation.
Cliven Bundy Trial – Opening Statements
The opening statements are basically supposed to inform the jury about what to expect in evidence from each party and what that party’s interpretation is regarding that evidence. For the most part, that plan was followed. The events of the BLM round-up of Cliven Bundy’s cattle, and the protest that followed, was presented by the prosecutor, and then a legal representative of each defendant, with the exception of Ammon Bundy and his legal team. The opening statement for defendant Ammon Bundy is reserved for after the prosecution rests it’s case, probably a month or two from now. Ammon Bundy’s lawyers chose to waive their openings until prosecutors conclude their presentation of evidence, noting they’re still waiting for requested evidence involving FBI emails.
Prosecutor Steven Myhre’s Opening Statement
The first opening statement for the USA v Bundy Tier 1 trial was given by prosecutor Steven Myhre. He outlined Cliven Bundy’s 25 year history of noncompliance and nonpayment connected with grazing his cattle. Then Myrhre showed a timeline of all the events leading to the Bunkerville Standoff characterizing the Bundy family as the aggressors using militia and long guns to intimidate and impede federal officers. He showed a list of the felony charges made against the defendants.
Attorney Bret Whipple’s Opening Statement for Defendant Cliven Bundy
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Attorney Bret Whipple
Bret Whipple started his Opening Statement with the Nevada statehood in 1864, followed shortly by the 1877 founding of the Bundy’s Ranch by Cliven’s maternal grandfather. He went on to mention the Taylor Grazing Act of 1934, and then the designation of the endangered desert tortoise in 1989. The Endangered Species Act lead to the governments action of reducing Cliven’s legal grazing from 152 to 89 head of cattle. But In order to continue complying with the requirement of “beneficial use” for his water rights, Cliven had to have all the cattle using the water. Complying to the new rules BLM was imposing would, in effect, cancel out a part of his water rights that he had acquired from the state of Nevada. Whipple told how the other 52 Southern Nevada ranchers that complied with BLM’s new permit rules were all regulated out of business.
Whipple went through the same basic events that prosecutor Steven Myhre had outlined that lead up to the standoff. In Whipple’s statement, the BLM was the inflexible aggressor. He showed video’s that Myhre had already shown, but explained the BLM dump truck Ammon stopped had water pipes and infrastructure from the water system belonging to the Bundy’s. Destroying the water system went way beyond the scope of the governments court order to impound cattle.
Whipple showed the arrest of Dave Bundy, the body slam of Margaret Huston and the Tasering of Ammon. He explained how the cattle roundup had been called off by government officials the evening before the protest. The government is claiming that they were threatened and forced to abandon their duties on April 12th, when in reality, the orders to abandon the roundup were already given the day before. This leaves the criminal charges without foundation.
Whipple was also able to inform the jury of several facts that had not been disclosed before. The government had set up a confidential Forward Operating Base as part of a Joint Terrorism Task Force team of FBI SWAT agents less than two miles from the Bundy home in April 2014.
Ryan Bundy Pro Se Legal Representation – Opening Statement
Ryan Bundy’s opening statement stunned the courtroom. On the large screen monitors scattered through the courtroom, he displayed a picture of himself and his wife Angela with their eight children. He then told his audience about growing up on the ranch and their family values. He explained to the jury about a favorite phrase his father used, “whatever it takes”, and how, to them the phrase meant the determination needed to complete the job. Ryan told the jury that the prosecution was going to tell them that “whatever it takes” was a threat Cliven Bundy had made against the government.
Ryan told the jury that 53 ranchers were in the area when BLM first started managing the land. The ranchers were forced to sign grazing permits that called for cutting their herds. His father wouldn’t sign it because his water rights would also be cut permanently. The other ranchers were gradually regulated out of business.
Ryan explained that Cliven Bundy’s grazing rights are a property right owned by his father. BLM designated grazing as a privilege. Ryan explained that if you own something, your rights to the use of that property are more than if you just have a privilege. A renter that only has a privilege must ask for permission to make changes to the landlords property.
Ryan explained that this court case is no longer about cows and grazing rights. It is about freedom. If we cannot use our land as we want, we are not free. He warned the courtroom; “Our fight for freedom is not overseas; it is in our front yard, in our backyard.”
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Ryan Bundy, with his wife, Angie, outside the Federal Courthouse in Las Vegas. (Photo: AP)
Ryan talked of militias and how they protect the people from a tyrannical government. In our country’s history our militia’s were defined as all able bodied men from 17 to 45 years old, and at another time, from 17 to 64 years old. Men were automatically considered as being in the militia. Ryan Bundy told the jury that the militia-men who showed up at Bundy Ranch were hero’s. Ryan Bundy told the jury that his co-defendant was a hero. Pointing at Ryan Payne, Bundy said “Ryan Payne saved my life.” Ryan Bundy also explained to the jury that the first two Bundy protest trials had been prevented from getting to the truth.
Ryan Bundy told of government snipers that surrounded the Bundy home, He told of how his brother Dave was thrown to the ground and arrested for taking pictures of those snipers, he told of the incident on April 6th when Margaret Huston was thrown to the ground, and Ammon was attacked by a dog and tasered multiple times.
He promised to continue to do “whatever it takes” to protect his rights and urged jurors to stand up for freedom. He then invited the jury to visit his family’s ranch when the trial is over, and told of his love for this land. Ryan said it is the jury that protects the people when the government goes to far. Ryan Bundy said “being here in this courtroom is doing “whatever it takes”.
Reactions to Ryan Bundy’s Opening Statement
The spectators were amazed by the skill of the orator before them. He stood with a mix of humility, earnestness, and passion to give a statement that was at least an hour in length. He did so without looking at a single note. He stayed calm and deliberate in front of the 12 men and women who will probably be deciding whether he will spend the rest of his life in prison.
The court-watchers that had witnessed the other Bundy trials were shocked by how much information Ryan Bundy had just given the jury. The judge not once tried to stop the proceedings and the prosecution did not make a single objection. Ryan had told the basis of the Bundy side of the Bunkerville Protest.
In the first two trials, Todd Engel had lost his right to represent himself for the rest of the first trial by merely saying the name of the disgraced BLM’s Special Agent in Charge, Daniel Love. In the 2nd trial, Eric Parker was thrown off the witness stand for saying he had “looked up and to his right” in his effort to describe his actions without saying the court banned reference to the government snipers. Ryan Bundy had been allowed to cover multiple lines of evidence that were never permitted in the previous two trials.
The jury was captivated by Ryan’s statement. They seemed very thoughtful and a few might have even smiled or nodded to a few of Ryan’s remarks.
Ryan’s description of how government over-regulation has caused so many ranches to go out of business brings to mind other examples of overzealous agencies that cause the small businesses to fail. How many dairy and food processing company’s are forced to close because they cannot afford all new stainless steel equipment demanded by FDA? How many people are kept from going into business because of excessive requirements to get a license or a permit? How far do we let it go before we say “no more”? When do we take a stand? What role are we going to allow our courts to take once a stand has been made?
It is obvious to all court-watchers that this trial will be fought totally different from the previous trials. The judge’s attitude in regards to the defendants has seemingly changed from hostile to caring. The prosecution is taking a much weaker stance. The defense team is working together brilliantly. The rules of what evidence may be presented by the defense has changed from a near complete denial of all defenses, to almost the complete story of what happened. Misconduct of the Special Agent Daniel Love and other government officials at the protest is still being scrutinized in an effort to unseal more evidence of wrongdoing.
Public Defender Ryan Norwood’s Opening Statement for Defendant Ryan Payne:
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Attorney Ryan Norwood displayed a photo of Ryan Payne holding his two young children. Ryan Payne had never heard of the Bundy family until April 7th when he received an email from a friend that said “have you seen this?”. Attached to the email was an article from “The Last American Patriot” titled “Armed Feds Prepare for Showdown with Nevada Cattle Rancher”. Payne called Cliven Bundy and then headed from Montana to Nevada, arriving April 8th.
Norwood described Payne’s Army service as two tours in Iraq, he came home disenchanted with the government. Payne has a tattoo of four skulls on his left arm to mark the deaths of four friends in Iraq. He sees a gun as a tool for protection and carries one everywhere he goes.
Norwood said Payne is co-founder of Operation Mutual Aid and looked on the group as a means to defend people who couldn’t defend themselves. The prosecution said Payne recruited militia members to thwart the cattle roundup and provoke a battle, but Attorney Norwood said Payne drew the militia to protect the Bundys and prevent a fight.
The defense lawyers are still working long, hard hours in an attempt to get more evidence unsealed. Ammon Bundy’s attorneys have an informational website at AmmonBundyDefense.com that includes videos and written information on the case, plus a place to donate. Ammon’s legal team has donated a lot of their own time to fight for the defendants constitutional rights. The web site sends email updates of their progress to supporters that register.
This article, first printed by The Roseburg Beacon from Roseburg, Oregon and first on the internet by RedoubtNews.com from Idaho, is offered to all other media under the Creative Commons License, when proper credit is given to Terry Noonkester, The Roseburg Beacon and Redoubt News.
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John Lamb, mid-day report Day 11, Nov. 22 ~ Valley Forge News Network
Prosecution looses cool - end of day 11 Nov. 22 ~ MrsB Stacy
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Bryan Hyde, the prosecution spent most of the day trying to undo the information. ~ Mrs.B Stacy
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J Grady has reuploaded an video Ammon Bundy made in which Ammon Bundy devoted much of his time to. This video is relevant today because the jury has had numerous questions about water rights and the .gov persecution is trying desperately to keep water rights suppressed in this trial. In Nevada the State isssues water rights. If you do not use your rights after a certain amount of time passes, I believe 5 years they revert back to the State.
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Prosecution’s Unjust Use of Res Judicata
The Prosecution’s Unjust Use Of Res Judicata
THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF RES JUDICATA IS “JUDICIAL ECONOMY” MEANING THAT THE COURTS SHOULD NOT BE BOGGED DOWN WITH THE TIME AND EXPENSE OF MATTERS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DECIDED.
November 24, 2017 Constitution, Featured, Liberty or Laws?, Opinion
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The Prosecution’s Unjust Use Of Res Judicata
by Loren Edward Pearce
In his motion to deny the Bundy et al defendants their right to raise the subject of water rights, fencing laws and other matters that the prosecution considers irrelevant, Myhre stated, “A party is not entitled to collaterally attack the merits of a final order for relief. The doctrine of res judicata precludes a party from re-litigating issues that were or could have been raised in the original action.”
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Renewed Motion to Exclude
Irrelevant Evidence
Res judicata is Latin for, “a matter already adjudged”. It comes from the legal doctrine that once something has been fully adjudged on the merits then the judgment is final and is not open to attack in a later judgment or hearing.
The primary purpose of res judicata is “judicial economy” meaning that the courts should not be bogged down with the time and expense of matters that have already been decided. Additionally, res judicata is meant to protect a party, who may have prevailed in a controversy, from having to go through the inconvenience and expense of litigating the same matters again. For the winner of a controversy, res judicata is closely related to double jeopardy, in preventing the pain, injury, trouble, expense and inconvenience of trying the same matter over again.
Res Judicata and the 7th Amendment
Res judicata is not mentioned in the constitution but, in the Seventh Amendment, a similar doctrine is stated,
“…no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.”
There are several ways a res judicata claim may not apply:
- Was the matter really litigated on the merits? Was the matter of water rights, etc. actually adjudged by the courts and is it exactly the same matter or has it been presented under a different theory?
- Did the party objecting to res judicata truly get due process or were there material errors or fraud preventing and obstructing due process and that lead to wrongful final judgment?
- Jurisdiction of the court can be attacked at any time. Did the court have jurisdiction? A fundamental challenge by the Bundys et al is the matter of the constitutional authority of administrative law judges versus Article 3 courts as provided for by the constitution. The Bundys allege that the BLM and other big federal bureaucracies do not have constitutional authority to create their own courts with administrative law judges who issue decisions that are latter enforced by their own self-serving law enforcers, such as what we saw at Bunkerville. Were some of the orders that the prosecution refers to issued under Article 3 authority or were they issued under administrative courts who have no constitutional authority?
The Use and Abuse of Res Judicata by the Prosecution
On one hand, the prosecution invokes res judicata as a way to avoid litigating something that allegedly has already been dealt with in a previous trial under the pretext of judicial economy. On the other hand, the prosecution seeks to defy judicial economy by “re-trying” the same issues that were brought up in earlier trials that were declared mistrials because of hung juries.
In the previous trials, the majority of the jurors voted for acquittal and while the decisions were not unanimous, common sense would indicate to the prosecution and to all the world that these re-trials are violating the spirit of the law, if not the letter of the law, by violating the Seventh Amendment wherein,
“no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States”
Nobody knows for sure how many millions of dollars are being spent by the prosecution in aggressively going after the defendants in multiple retrials. Rumors have it that over $100,000,000 has been spent in retrying the defendants. Without question, judicial economy is not being served by the vindictive prosecution.
If the prosecutors want to apply res judicata to water rights, then they need to apply res judicata to all the matters already tried before a jury and stop putting the defendants and their families through hell and only using judicial economy when convenient to the government.
Res judicata, like double jeopardy, are doctrines that can promote the ends of justice, when wielded in the hands of just people. But, when wielded by prosecutors who seek a “whatever it takes” position without regard to the pretrial prison suffering of the defendants and the destruction of the right to a “speedy” trial, then res judicata can be used to deny the jury the right to “have the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth” in making a just decision about the guilt of the defendants.
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Government gambit not paying off, opinion by Norton II
Government Gambit Not Paying Off in Bunkerville Trial
HOW ELSE TO EXPLAIN A GOVT. WITNESS WHO OPENS THE DOOR TO AREAS THE GOVT IS TRYING TO SUPPRESS?
November 26, 2017 BLM, Nevada, Opinion
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GAMBIT
“A device or opening remark, often entailing risk, calculated to gain an advantage”
“In Chess, an opening in which a player makes a sacrifice
for the sake of some compensating advantage”
“A clever action in a game, intended to gain an advantage”
by Norton II
Mystified by the Govt’s inept opening salvos in this Bundy trial, we are drawn to the possibility of a “Sacrifice for the sake of some compensating advantage” How else to explain a Govt. witness who opens the door to areas the Govt is trying to suppress? How else to explain a Govt witness who gives chapter and verse of the long Bundy saga, a story that has been barred from the trial? What to make of Govt exhibits so patently false that the defense can refute them with one hand behind their back?
We are reminded of the “Big Gun Show” chronicled by Ms Dovale in Portland, a display by the prosecution of the evil black rifles seized from Malheur. In his breathless enthusiasm for showing such dramatic evidence to the jury, Prosecutor Gabriel somehow forgot that there were several accused, and that it was his job to show evidence against them. In the event, he failed to identify a single one of the guns as belonging to the individuals on trial.
Is “Good enough for Government work” the rule for these high paid Federals? The outcome of this trial will be no less than seismic in its effect on the political landscape, but far from behaving as clever chess masters, Myhre and Co are beginning to look like the sacrifice themselves, sacrificial lambs. They have lost the initiative, yanked from their hands by a Nevada cowboy.
The Bundys and their supporters have put a severe dent in the Federal Conviction Rate. They have left a trail of befuddled casualties in their wake; Disgraced BLM agent Dan Love….prosecutors Knight, Gabriel and Barrow……Judge Brown…..US Attorney Williams…..all of them minions of a corrupt and predatory Government. Navarro and her gang are next, due to gain fame as the team that lost the Trial of the Century.
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Bryan Hyde reports .gov prosecutors cherry picked 13 minutes of 45 minute March 17, 2014 phone call from BLM agents to Ryan Bundy in an attempt to portray Ryan Bundy as violent
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John Lamb with day 12 report from United States Courthouse in Las Vegas, Nov 27, ~ J Grady
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John Lamb end of day 12 Ryan Bundy and the audio recordings witheld from the defense ~Valley Forge News Network
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Bryan Hyde, the jury hears the audio recording in full + Ryan Bundy on the Constitution - again ~ Valley Forge News Network
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Bunkerville trial as strange as Jonah and the Whale
Bunkerville Trial as Strange as Jonah and the Whale
HAVING JUST BEEN RUN OVER BY AN 18 WHEELER NAMED RYAN BUNDY, MYHRE RETREATED TO HIS ACCUSTOMED PETTIFOGGING.
November 28, 2017 BLM, Nevada, Opinion
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Bunkerville Trial as Strange as Jonah and the Whale
by Norton II
Jonah describing the whale ? I know now how that biblical figure must have felt, coming away from events no less strange than being swallowed by a whale.
Did today’s Govt witness, one Robert Shilaikis of the BLM enforcement squad, imagine that he would find himself questioned by the accused, Ryan Bundy?
Dusting off an old chestnut, you have to ask what prosecutor Myhre was smoking over lunchtime. His behavior in the afternoon session was a startling change from the hardline character we know.
Elsewhere I have described this courtroom as hijacked by a rogue judge and her accomplices. Fair play then that today’s session saw the room commandeered back, with judge, prosecutors and witness captive on a wild ride.
The focus of today’s session was the actions of the above mentioned agent Shilakas and his partner Mr Johnson. The two of them had arrived unannounced at the Bundy compound on March 17 2014, tasked with informing Cliven Bundy of the impending roundup of his “Trespass” cows. Whether by fluke or by design, the agents found no one.
Wandering out on the range, they finally came upon a Bundy Son-in-law, Clancy Cox. At the agent’s request, Mr Cox called Cliven and informed him of the agent’s presence, and of their mission. Things were quiet for a few hours after this encounter with Clancy, then agent Johnson’s phone rang. The caller was Ryan Bundy, and the subsequent conversation, duly recorded by Johnson, was listened to three years later by Prosecutor Myhre as chock full of Incriminating statements.
Unfortunately for Myhre, the recording was also a capsule declaration of the Bundy’s stance against Federal overreach in general and the sordid record of the BLM in particular, expressed by Ryan in the most articulate and documented style. What was Myhre to do?
For those of us familiar with this prosecutor’s MO, his strategy was predictable: Cherry-pick the incriminating segments – or what he thought were incriminating segments – from the body of the recording and use them as evidence, hiding the rest.
The admissibility of these “Snippets” from the Johnson/Ryan conversation, so manifestly out of context, was hotly objected to in the morning session. Over defense protests however, Judge Navarro sided with Myhre, and the snippets, and only the snippets, were heard by the jury.
End of story? No ! The astute reader will recall my question about Myhre’s lunchtime activities, and I try not to disappoint.
Imagine our surprise when, at the opening of the afternoon session, Myhre signaled his acquiescence to playing the entire, UN-snippeted Johnson/Ryan recording ! For the next 45 minutes the court and jury were swept into a grand exposition – no less a phrase will do – by Ryan Bundy.
Deftly fielding Johnson’s questions and statements, we heard from a man thoroughly versed in the Constitution, expert in the history of State lands vs Federal lands, chiding a fellow Mormon (Johnson) for falling away from LDS principles, naming any BLM roundup as theft, and serving notice to Johnson that not one cow would be confiscated, Whatever it takes.
This poor pen can only sketch the scene, but it is doubtful if any courtroom in living memory has been so dominated.
Having just been run over by an 18 wheeler named Ryan Bundy, Myhre retreated to his accustomed pettifogging. Limp and perfunctory in his re-direct, he was soon out of steam….Finis
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John Lamb with the Nov. 28 report for the Bundy trial. Cross examination revealed BLM witness lied ~ Valley Forge News Network
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Bryan Hyde, short report on BLM Agent lied, (video cuts out) ~ Valley Forge News Network
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Dave Hodges reports that a mistrial was declared. John Lamb posted in Hodge’s comments no mistrial. Ammon and Cliven Bundy to get pre-trial release. There are numerous videos posted, I am sure some are duplicates.
Brand Thornton, Bundy’s to be released ~J Grady
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Bryan Hyde, a stunning announcement in the Bundy Trial ~ J Grady
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Day 13, Brad Green: Bribery, Deception, Impeachment of credibility ~ MrsB Stacy
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John Lamb, witing for more info on Bundy's release ~ Mrs.B Stacy
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Bryan Hyde, Did the government attempt to hide information lead to the Bundy’s release? ~J Graady
Also I read that Kelli Stewart reported Cliven Bundy is not agreeing to terms of pre-trial release unless all the men are freed. Nothing positive on that yet.
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John Lamb, reports Ammon Bundy to be released Thursday. Cliven Bundy refusing pre-trial release if all of them are not released ~ Valley Forge News Network
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Cliven Bundy has shown he is a great man who stands by his beliefs. His just reward should be seeing Harry Reid jailed for his part in this charade.
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Real Liberty Media Vincent Easley II, Brand Thornton and MrsB. Stacy discuss the eventsof today ~ MrsB Stacy
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Roy Potter, Intell War Aginst Americans and Bundy Pre-Trial Release ~RoyPotterqa 8011 views
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Why the Bundys were released . . . Each day that passes more lying and corruption in the federal government is exposed :-[, not confined to the Bundy case, but widespread from Congress on down.
JUDGE NAVARRO AGREED TO THE RELEASE OF THE DEFENDANTS BECAUSE OF THE THREAT ASSESSMENT REPORT.
November 29, 2017 BLM, DOJ, Featured, Freedom of the Press 6
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BLM & FBI Exposed
or How the Bundy’s Got Out Of Prison
by Shari Dovale
The defendants in the Bunkerville Standoff Trial are to be released from prison. Ammon Bundy is to be released on Thursday morning, Nov 30th. Ryan Payne will be released, with the coordination of Judge Anna Brown in Oregon, as soon as he provides Bond.
Cliven Bundy has been offered release but has refused it. Cliven will wait until the remaining defendants, including 2 more of his sons, are also offered release.
These defendants have been incarcerated for nearly 2 years, and though the judge just recently ruled against their pre-trial release, she has changed her mind.
What happened?
There was a sealed hearing this morning. The court discussed the false narrative that the prosecution has been perpetuating. I am sure they did not call it that, but nonetheless, it is what it is.
The government has been trying to get everyone to believe many false statements, beginning with Cliven owing more than a million dollars in grazing fees. As we showed, they never sent a bill for grazing fees to the Bundy Ranch, however, the fees for trespassing cattle was less than $9,000. They added their own administrative fees to it which brought the total to less than $300,000. Far less than the $1.1 million they have been repeating through their controlled and biased media.
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Another falsehood by the government is the cameras placed strategically to surveil the Bundy Ranch during the days that lead up to the standoff. The prosecution continued to deny their existence, down to mocking Ryan Bundy months ago when he filed a motion for the release of that information. The prosecutors called it a fishing expedition at the time, then had to eat their words when their own witness testified to the existence of these cameras.
Attempting to save face, AUSA Myhre, and company, made every excuse they could as to these cameras. Claiming there was only a single camera, it was shown to be at least 3, and possibly 4, cameras recording the Bundy family.
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Prosecutors claimed that these cameras did not exist.
The prosecutors then tried to say that, though these live feeds were streamed directly to the office of disgraced BLM Special Agent Daniel Love, no one was watching the extra large big screen TV. They also attempted to say that there was no recording of the surveillance, no one taking notes of the footage, and no one else could watch the video, all of which proved to be false.
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Even Judge Navarro, who has continuously tried to help the prosecution, could not swallow that story.
There is also the tale of the government snipers. Though the information on the snipers was revealed in previous trials, the prosecution continued to call them false, and tried to say it was a lie by the defense. However, the release of more photographic evidence revealed the lies to come from the government.
The super-secret sealed hearing today, one of multiple such sealed hearings in this case, revealed more discovery that the prosecution has refused to turn over to the defense. It has been previously discussed how the government attempted to hide required discovery evidence by burying it deep in massive amounts of unrelated documents, including 2 full novels and unrelated medical records. It has been said that the amount of discovery is so massive that it must be accessed through a special website. At an estimated 4 terabytes large, it cannot fit on any one, or even two, computers.
However, even with these attempts, the prosecution continues to be caught hiding more exculpatory evidence.
Reliable sources have told me that the main reason that Judge Navarro agreed to the release of the defendants is because of the Threat Assessment Report.
The government has relied upon this report to justify keeping the defendants incarcerated. They have claimed all along that the Bundy’s were violent, yet no one has produced evidence of these claims.
The FBI did a Threat Assessment on the Bundy’s in the beginning that stated they were NOT a threat. The government has made every attempt to hide this report, yet it was finally revealed in court.
Additionally, this claim of the family being violent is what was used as justification for their overabundance of government agents during the impoundment operation known as “Gold Butte”.
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As we shared previously from Deb Jordan, the undercover BLM agent, Robyn Kirkham, AKA Alex Branson, was making every attempt to get the Bundy family to react violently to the false narrative she was implying.
During the first trial in Las Vegas, Nevada against Bundy Ranch protestors caught up in a surprising show of force by Federal Law Enforcement, the FBI admitted on the stand that 1,000 FBI and other Federal officers were assigned to surveil the Bundy family and their closest followers on social media.
One of those agents was Robyn Kirkham, a Bureau of Land Management Agent who under the direction of former BLM (SAC) Daniel P. Love, began her surveillance sometime in January of 2014.
BLM Agent Robyn Kirkham is also known as “Alex Branson on FaceBook”
BLM Agent Robyn Kirkham known as “Alex Branson on FaceBook”, contacted Bailey Bundy Logue in March of 2014 on Facebook. Bailey, who is the daughter of Cliven Bundy says that in those messages Agent Kirkham “aka” Alex Branson, tells her that she was involved in a group of “like minded” people in Cedar City, Utah and would like to help the Bundy family with protest they may be planning against the Bureau of Land Management’s upcoming cattle impoundment. She then ask if there are any plans coming up to protest —
The messages take on a more urgent feel after Kirkum tells Bailey Bundy that she is good friends with someone inside the Las Vegas Metro Police Department who is sympathetic to the Bundy cause. She routinely alerts Cliven’s daughter, that her intel inside Metro PD is telling her “lots of cops” are coming down there, and that the BLM is starting to get “VERY” busy. At one point she tells her that her inside person is now advising that the BLM had an MRAP delivered to the compound.
So, the bottom line is: The BLM and FBI knew the family was non-violent, yet they lied about it from the beginning. The government used these lies to bring hundreds of agents to their ranch, commit atrocities against them, then incarcerate them for nearly two years.
Will the government be held accountable?
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Bryan Hyde put up a video apologizing for the one that was cut off on Nov. 28. He gives an update on Ryan Bundy’s cross examination that was missing from the original video.
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Brad Steffy from Oregon Wide Open always has good commentary on the Malheur/Bundy trials.
Brad addresses the question that surely is on everyone’s mind who has been following this trial.
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In the previous trial you would have swore she was a member of the prosecution team. Yet in this trial, she is acting somewhat as a Judge. Some have implied that perhaps it was because they were so badly defeated in the last trial that she thought a softer approach might be a better strategy in this one but I'm not buying it.
It has also been mentioned that Sessions sent word that Judges had best be operating in proper capacity. Maybe he did indeed and the timing is appropriate to this trial. We may never know the answer to this but one thing is becoming repeatedly clear. Suppressing the truth is kind of like bathing an alley cat.
The Prosecution seems to be coming to that realization very quickly.
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Tier 3 Release
11/29/17
Following up on the Bundy tier 3 release.
As reported earlier, Ammon Bundy, Cliven Bundy and Ryan Payne were granted a pre trial release today by Judge Navarro.
In an interesting reversal from two weeks ago, She countered her previous decision where She denied the release of Cliven, Ammon and Ryan Payne. A lot has happened in the days since then to bring about this amazing development.
After calling a private hearing and forcing spectators to leave the court, Judge Navarro had finally had enough of the Prosecution suppressing evidence and lying. Sources say she lashed out at the prosecution vigorously after yet another attempt at deception.
Throughout the last two weeks of testimony and cross examination, it seems to be looking pretty bleak for the Prosecution. During Ryans cross examination of a key BLM witness, he asked him to explain the constitution he swore an oath to protect. The agent simply said he could not.
Ryan also earned an incredible amount of respect from everyone in the courtroom when during cross examination one of the prosecuting attorneys challenged him to share what he knew of the constitution. This went very badly for the prosecution as Ryan seized the opportunity to detail a two hour narrative outlining exactly what the constitution specifies and how it is being grossly ignored by BLM on a regular basis. Everyone I've talked to or heard from who was there said it was a pivotal lecture and the jury was mesmerized.
Once again, the prosecution was caught in deception when they tried to suppress the contents of a phone call made from BLM agents to Ryan Bundy just days before the impounding and slaughter of the Bundy cattle. The defense called for a complete copy of the recording and it was granted and played before the jury.
The prosecution wanted to simply focus on an excerpt from the conversation where they asked him what he would do if they proceeded to impound the cattle to which he replied "whatever it takes to protect our rights and livelihood."
Once the entire conversation was heard it played much differently to the Judge and the Jury as it Turns out it was forty five minutes of Ryan meekly explaining to the agents how they were violating the constitution, and how the Bundys were in their legal rights to defend their grazing and water rights. He once again did so with convincing knowledge of the law and the constitution and how at every junction BLM had violated law and the Bundy's rights.
What's happening is the defense is doing an excellent job of forcing suppressed evidence to be revealed and Ryan Bundy presenting himself without counsel is pretty much devouring the Government witnesses under cross examination.
In one recent instance yesterday, it was said the government produced a "professional witness" and one skilled at supporting the BLM case and using the old "I don't recall" under cross examination to avoid being caught in a lie. Ryan skillfully cornered him and forced him to admit to a lie.
Every day it seems the prosecution is losing more ground as the entire case is seen as slipping through their hands like sand from the Nevada desert as they grapple at anything to try and keep it together.
Most of the damage is being done by the prosecutions own evidence being revealed by the defense. Much of that evidence is important to the defense but was suppressed by the prosecution. Navarro, in a peculiar shift from the previous trial has allowed the defense to actually defend themselves to some degree in this trial where as in the previous trial she disallowed most of the defenses evidence.
The defense continues to demand evidence the prosecution is trying to hide and Navarro has lost her patience with them stone walling, saying it's irrelevant, etc.
Another key point was a 'Threat assessment" performed weeks before the conflict by the government where once the actual documents were forced to be revealed the Bundys were assessed as a very low threat in fact the lowest assessment calculable. This was in direct conflict with the narrative of the prosecution trying to paint them as high threat risk.
This isn't my opinion, rather the reporting of many people in attendance who all seem to concur that this is going very poorly for the prosecution. I heard many mentions of "mistrial" today although nothing in that regard has been decided so far as we know.
Although it's true that Cliven and Ammon have indeed been granted pre trial release along with Ryan Payne it is being reported by some that ALL tier 3 defendants have been granted pre trial release.
Cliven has been heard to say he is rejecting the offer of release saying many of those who came to support him are still incarcerated awaiting trial so he will remain until his full acquittal.
This won't play well for the prosecutions portrayal of him being self serving and will likely be known by the jury.
There are many unanswered questions remaining in this clear example of tyrannical behavior by the BLM and other agencies. But the most profound in my mind is why Judge Navarro is so graphically different in this trial as compared to the last.
In the previous trial you would have swore she was a member of the prosecution team. Yet in this trial, she is acting somewhat as a Judge. Some have implied that perhaps it was because they were so badly defeated in the last trial that she thought a softer approach might be a better strategy in this one but I'm not buying it.
It has also been mentioned that Sessions sent word that Judges had best be operating in proper capacity. Maybe he did indeed and the timing is appropriate to this trial. We may never know the answer to this but one thing is becoming repeatedly clear.
Suppressing the truth is kind of like bathing an alley cat.
The Prosecution seems to be coming to that realization very quickly.
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Another odd twist in the Cliven Bundy trial
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The strange Bunkerville case has further twists
November 30, 2017 of
The twists and turns in the Bunkerville standoff trial defy logic.
Weeks into the federal trial of 71-year-old rancher Cliven Bundy, two of this sons and self-styled militia man from Montana, the judge has decided that all of the defendants should be released from jail to what amounts to house arrest. Ryan Bundy was so released at the beginning of the trial but the judge refused to do the same for the others.
The four have been jailed since February 2016. The judge said she “reweighed” the evidence.
But in a further twist, after previously demanding he be released under whatever terms the court might impose — travel, firearm or GPS tracking restrictions — Cliven Bundy now refuses the offer, with his lawyer saying, “To be released, he would have to agree to conditions. In his opinion, he’s not willing to take a deal with the government when he hasn’t done anything wrong to begin with. … He’s very principled and he doesn’t want to violate those principals and I respect that,” according to High Country News.
This the third trial growing out of an April 2014 confrontation in which the BLM tried to confiscate Bundy’s cattle for failure to pay grazing fees for more than two decades, but backed off when confronted with armed protesters. Originally 17 people were charged with obstruction of justice, conspiracy, extortion, assault and impeding federal officers among other things. The defendants have claimed they were simply exercising their First and Second Amendment rights, but the judge has refused that to be used as a defense.
So far in this case two have been acquitted by a jury, two have pleaded to a misdemeanor and released on time served, one pleaded to conspiracy charge and faces up to six years in prison, another was convicted and sentenced to seven years another was convicted and sentenced to 68 years in prison and still another was convicted and is awaiting sentencing but faces up to 30 years.
The trial of six more defendants, including two more Bundy sons, Dave and Mel Bundy, is scheduled for 30 days after the current trial ends, which is expected to last into February, unless something else odd happens.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/wp-con...v08-17bt03.jpgOutside courthouse (R-J pix)
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Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
Someone stood on heads for this to happen. And it all happened in the background, I think there is pressure going on in many departments reading recent decisions on more than just this.
Congrats to the Free Bundys!
Now for Cliven to get a knife to stick into the .gov...