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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
One year later a quieter land battle unfolds . . .
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A year after refuge takeover, quieter land battle unfolds
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Grant County Public Forest Commission members chat before their meeting at the Squeeze-In Restaurant & Deck in John Day, Oregon, on Dec. 7. The commission was created by voters in 2002 and was dissolved by a judge recently. Its members still keep meeting, though, to find a way forward amid a struggle for control over federal lands in the West. From left are Dave Traylor, Jim Sproul, Mike Smith and Elaine Smith. (AP Photo/Andrew Selsky)
JOHN DAY, Ore. — On a recent wintry evening, members of the Grant County Public Forest Commission walked into the warmth of a rustic diner and took seats at their customary table for their bimonthly meeting.
They voiced anger and frustration. At this meeting, they were officially a non-entity.
A judge this fall dissolved the commission at the behest of a former county supervisor who worried it was becoming a risk, citing the takeover of a federal wildlife refuge in a neighboring county.
While the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge grabbed the world’s attention, a quieter struggle over federal lands is being waged by those trying to use elections and the levers of government. Their grandparents and great-grandparents wrested a living from the West’s rugged landscape.
But now, the forest commissioners say, the government is tightening access to the same natural resources by closing roads and curtailing logging and other industries that allowed previous generations to be self-sufficient.
The commissioners feel they lost, by the stroke of a judge’s pen, a tool voters gave them to fight back.
Kim McKrola, a local, voiced the concern of many: “I would think we should have more say, because what does the federal government know about what’s going on around here?”
With 1,700 residents, John Day is Grant County’s biggest town, named for a fur trapper who in the early 1800s survived being robbed of everything by American Indians but trekked with a compatriot to safety. The second longest free-flowing river in the continental United States also bears Day’s name.
Created by voters in a ballot measure 14 years ago, the forest commission was tasked with determining the fate of public lands, which comprise 66 percent of the county’s 4,529 square miles.
Hours before the meeting at the Squeeze-In Restaurant &Deck, forest Commissioner Jim Sproul drove his pickup up a canyon and into the Malheur National Forest.
“My great-grandfather came here in the 1870s. He started the Humboldt Mine,” the 64-year-old said. A pin on his cap proclaimed support for Sheriff Glenn Palmer, a sympathizer of the refuge occupiers’ cause.
Sproul looked at skeletal trees killed by a 2015 fire that burned 43 homes and more than 172 square miles. He blamed the U.S. Forest Service, saying it let the forest grow too thick, allowing the blaze to crown and become a “huge fireball.” Sproul wants the agency to open more burned areas for loggers to salvage trees.
At the Squeeze-In, commission members voiced more complaints.
“You’re missing the point,” growled Commissioner Mike Smith from beneath the brim of his cowboy hat. “The point is, they want to make it so you can’t make a living in rural Oregon, so you have to leave.”
Others nodded assent.
Commissioner Dave Traylor said he suspects the government and environmentalists want to create a 200-mile-wide corridor from Canada to Mexico, with only animals present and no humans.
Federal officials say no such plots exist.
District Ranger Dave Halemeier noted the Forest Service has increased its transparency.
“We meet with the public before we even have an idea of what we want to do in an area,” Halemeier said in an interview. “Historically, we’d come up with a plan and then present that plan, and now the public’s involved in developing that plan.”
Malheur National Forest Supervisor Steve Beverlin said he had productive talks with a forest commissioner about modifying rules for gathering firewood, but faced hostility at commission meetings.
“It was difficult to engage because they wouldn’t share information,” Beverlin said
Mark Webb, whose petition for judicial review led to the commission’s dissolution, said he felt it was growing too close to Palmer and his “increasing belligerence toward federal government.”
The leaders of the wildlife refuge takeover were planning to meet with Palmer when officers intercepted them Jan. 26. State police shot and killed LaVoy Finicum as he appeared to reach for a pistol.
Sproul said he had invited takeover leaders Ammon and Ryan Bundy to speak to residents about the Constitution and states’ rights, with no ulterior motives.
“Anyone who says there’s a militia here is a liar,” Sproul said. “But are there patriotic citizens here? Hell yes.”
Forest commissioners say no one informed them of the petition.
Judge W.D. Cramer ruled Sept. 14 that the ballot measure that created the commission violated the U.S. and state constitutions and federal statutes. In explaining his ruling, Cramer said he “may have personal views that align with many on how public lands are managed (or not), and views on how those who live close to the land should be heard.” But “facts and the law” dictate a decision.
Webb heads another organization, Blue Mountains Forest Partners, which describes itself as a diverse group of stakeholders who work to improve local forests and communities. He said his group and the forest commission have similar goals but “radically different” approaches.
“The public forest commission thought they had authority to tell the county (officials) and the national forest how to manage public lands. But Blue Mountains respects the framework … we have to operate in.”
Webb ran in the May primary for one of the commission’s seven seats. His name was removed from the ballot because of a technicality, Grant County Clerk Brenda Percy said. Webb told The Associated Press he ran in case his petition failed, so he could “inform or redirect” the commission, which he said was ineffective.
The forest commission, meanwhile, is planning to appeal the judge’s decision and has been in contact with the Secretary of State’s Office, which manages elections, to seek a remedy, Sproul said.
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Antlers hang above a doorway of a pioneer building near Dayville, Oregon. Sixty-six percent of the county’s 4,529 square miles of forests, mountains and high desert are federal lands, which sometimes puts locals in opposition with federal land managers. (AP Photo/Andrew Selsky)
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In this Dec. 8, 2016 photo, a worn footbridge crosses the John Day River and is dusted by newly fallen snow near Dayville. (AP Photo/Andrew Selsky)
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
Gary Hunt continues to expose the scum who serve the feds as confidential informants - Outpost of Freedom
http://outpost-of-freedom.com/blog/?p=1880
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Burns Chronicles No 49 – Thomas S. Dyman (Tom Dyman)
December 22, 2016, 8:24 pm
Burns Chronicles No 49
Thomas S. Dyman (Tom Dyman)
Gary Hunt
Outpost of Freedom
December 22, 2016
Thomas S. Dyman was considered for a Second Tier position in Operation Mutual Defense (OMD). The structure of OMD had three tiers. The First Tier is the Advisory Board. The Second Tier is those who could assist in research; webpage management, specialty skills, or other capabilities that would work with the Advisory Board. The Third Tier would be those recruited by the Second tier to assist them, though they would not be under the Advisory Board.
Being recommended by Ryan Payne, he had to fill out an application. In the application, he admits that he had a criminal record and refers to a background check. OMD never received the background check.
A search resulted in finding at least one criminal charge against Dyman. He was arrested in 2011 for having taken his children from his first wife, back in 1995. The children had become adults, and apparently the charges were dropped.
Dyman now lives in Williston, North Dakota and has a contracting business, Dyman Construction, LLC.
Dyman’s application was submitted to OMD on November 1, 2015, though the application is signed and dated on 10/29/16. We have to wonder what his intentions were in responding to Payne’s request, since his first report as an informant (CS) was dated November 3, 2015.
That report was dated November 3, 2015 and began with a copy of an article on the Hammonds that had been posted on bundyranchblogspot. Then, he began reporting on Payne’s plans.xxxx Payne told multiple CHS’s that he and Ammon Bundy were meeting on the morning of 11/4/2015 and driving to Oregon to meet directly with the Hammonds. The purpose of the trip was to convince the Hammonds to take a stand against the federal government, and accept OMD and militia-related assistance in preventing their incarceration. Payne indicated he and Ammon Bundy were traveling largely at the insistence of Cliven Bundy, who has been pushing Payne to take additional militia-related actions like the one he led in Bunkerville in 2014. Payne and Ammon Bundy also plan on meeting with the local Sheriff in an attempt to convince him to support their resistance and aid in the effort. They may meet with other local officials, such as County Commissioners as well.
Payne stated that he felt obligated to act in defense of the Hammonds even if they do not request OMD’s assistance. Payne compared the situation to preventing a suicidal man from killing himself. Payne has suggested that if the Hammonds refuse to make a stand at their ranch, OMD should lead a “dynamic action” against the facility receiving them (presumably a prison or U.S. Marshals Service facility) to make it impossible for the Hammonds to turn themselves in.
It should be noted that OMD has recorded all of its Advisory Board meetings where the Hammond situation has been discussed. Payne xxxx and Ammon Bundy intend to record their meeting with the Hammonds, as well as an OMD meeting regarding the matter on Thursday November 5..The following day, November 4, he provided an additional report based upon his communications with Payne, though it is nearly identical to the first report. Does he know that he will be paid by the report, and that informing pays better than contracting?
Ryan Payne contacted CHS xxxx to advise that he is traveling to Oregon with Ammon Bundy in an attempt to convince two ranchers to accept militia assistance to resist the federal government. Payne intends to meet Ammon Bundy on the morning of November 4 in southern Idaho and travel together to meet with a father and son by the last name of Hammond in Oregon. The Hammonds were recently sentenced to prison in a case involving the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), and Payne feels the criminal case against them is unconstitutional. He has talked to the father, who seems resigned to his fate, but Payne hopes he and Ammon can convince him to accept Operation Mutual Defense (OMD)’s assistance and fight the government. He and Ammon intend to tell the Hammonds that they will have militia forces in place to back down the government if they intend to fight.
Payne claimed that Cliven Bundy has been pushing him to do some kind of militia-related action again soon, and has encouraged Ammon to travel with Payne to encourage the Hammonds to formally request militia assistance. Payne xxxx would be running around like crazy for a few days, and intended to meet with the local Sheriff in Oregon as well as the Hammonds.
In the event the Hammonds fail to accept Payne’s offer of support, he still feels inclined to act to save them from incarceration. He intends to explore options to use militia force to make the Hammond’s self surrender to federal prison impossible. He feels he and OMD have an obligation to prevent their incarceration, and is committed to taking whatever steps are necessary to do so. Payne said that this was one of the most difficult decisions OMD was going to have to wrestle with,
The next report was on November 12, 2015, and is obviously a report on a conversation he had with Payne.Payne and Hunt worked xxxx on OMD-related matters, as they prepared for the opening of the group’s website, and formal introduction of OMD to the public. The OMD website is being set up by a man who lives in Arizona or Nevada.
Prior to visiting Hunt, Payne was in Oregon with Ammon Bundy, where they were trying to convince the father and son rancher by the last name of Hammond to resist arrest by the federal government. Payne believes the Hammonds are beaten down, and intend to surrender despite the militia’s offer of assistance. Payne and Ammon Bundy also met with the local sheriff in Oregon, and believe he would stand by and allow the militia to protect the Hammonds from the feds.
So, it is clear that Payne’s whereabouts are being fed to the fed. Here is the November 25 report.
As of November 25, 2015, Ryan Payne was in Montana, but was planning on traveling to Oregon on Monday, November 30. The Advisory Board for Operation Mutual Defense (OMD), has voted against declaring a formal action to protect the Hammond family in Oregon, but Payne is still committed personally to keeping the Hammonds out of prison. OMD board member Jon Ritzheimer has told Payne that he will also be traveling to Oregon to join him in the Hammond-related operation. Payne believes he has also received commitments from several other militia-related individuals to travel to Oregon to defend the Hammonds.
Payne now believes the Sheriff in Oregon does not intend to support Payne in his effort to defend the Hammonds. Payne also claims the federal government has threatened the Hammonds to prevent them from associating with Payne or requesting militia help. Payne described himself as a sheep dog, who must defend the sheep (the Hammonds), even though they don’t know they require defending. Although Payne did not explicitly state his intentions, it was clear to CHS that Payne intends to use military-style force to prevent the federal government from arresting the Hammonds and taking them to prison. Payne did not say what he would do if the Hammonds traveled to voluntarily turn themselves in at a federal facility.
Because the Hammonds have not given Payne or the militia permission to stage an operation on their property, Payne intends to camp out on the public land surrounding the Hammond property. Payne appears to have borrowed money from unknown sources to finance his operation in Oregon. He has indicated he will need to obtain employment after the New Year to pay some of this money back. Because of the Oregon operation, Payne no longer is planning on traveling to Arizona to participate in border related training with OMD in December.
Payne is attempting to acquire Level IV body armor for his operation in Oregon, and wants a Montana militia associate, who is also a body armor supplier, to personally deliver this armor and other supplies to Oregon during the first or second weekend in December. Payne is contacting others who will be responding to Oregon to see if the would like to obtain new body armor from this supplier as well. xxxx CHS believes Payne will be responding to Oregon with his AR-style rifle, other firearms, and full load out of ammunition and magazines.
The next report was made on December 14, 2015.On the morning of December 14, 2015, Ryan Payne and Jason Patrick were in Seattle on the way to the federal courthouse to attend Schuyler Barbeau’s detention hearing. They want to look the terrorists (meaning the FBI) in the eyes. Patrick expects he will be arrested, but Payne is under strict instructions not to get arrested, as he is supposed to be at a meeting in Harney County, Oregon, regarding the Hammond matter on the evening of December 15.
Payne has been camping with Jason Patrick and others in Harney County near the Hammond Ranch. One of Payne’s teams had to pull out because they were not equipped for the winter conditions in Oregon; however, Payne believes others are on standby to respond quickly to the ranch if needed. He also believes they will be moving into a different facility soon, making winter camping unnecessary. Lack of funding is also a serious issue for the Hammond operation.
Payne believes the crucial militia operation in Oregon will occur around Christmas. He is expecting supplies to arrive from Montana during that time frame, including body armor, firearms, ammunition, night vision, and gear. He also will be expecting more militia associates to start joining him in Oregon around that time.
Despite the challenges presented by weather and lack of resources, Payne is confident that “the time has come,” meaning his much awaited conflict with the government will commence soon. He believes God is bringing this all together perfectly.
Next, we have December 16On December 16, 2015, Payne contacted CHS to advise that the previous evening’s meeting in Harney County went very well. He was ecstatic, and repeatedly commented that God appeared to be bringing things together very nicely. Payne claims there were approximately 60 people at the meeting, and all were very supportive of the Hammonds. All but one of the people voted to form a Committee of Safety, and seven people were elected to be on that Committee.
Payne seemed pleasantly surprised by the support he received from the people of Harney County, and is having to readjust what he thought would be solely a militia-based effort to protect the Hammonds. He xxxx that it is not necessary for supplies and additional people to be sent to immediately to Harney County xxxx but suggested everyone needed to be ready to respond quickly. He said the militia response would definitely be needed, but just not in the next two weeks.
Payne is turning his efforts toward the Committee of Safety, and the local community rising up to protect the Hammonds on their own. Payne is optimistic that the townspeople may now be able to convince the Hammonds to take a stand against the government, and solicit the help of the militia.
Payne xxxx still was not getting much support from the leaders of the Pacific Patriots Network (PPN), but had received several promises of support from individual PPN members.
The following day, December 17, we have:On December 17, 2015, Ryan Payne called CHS to request CHS’s support and travel to Burns, Oregon, to provide security for Payne and the Committee of Safety (COS) which had recently been formed in Harney County. Payne indicated that the COS had met for the first time that day, and he had received reliable information that the federal government was planning on trying to arrest Payne and the members of the Committee of Safety within the next few days. Payne requested that CHS travel to Oregon with others to provide a ten-man security detail for Payne and the COS to prevent their arrest. Payne advised that he was also contacting xxxx militia associates, xxxx to ask for their assistance.
Next, we have the first report after the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, on January 4, 2016. It appears that Dyman was involved in soliciting others to participate in the occupation.Randy Eaton now thinks that it is important to support Ryan Payne’s efforts in Oregon. Eaton was initially against seizure of the refuge building in Oregon, but now believes it is time to support Payne and his associates in Oregon against the feds. Nic Whiting, xxxx would like to go to Oregon to join Payne as well.
Apparently, Dyman recalled an earlier request made by Payne and now includes that in his reporting.On December 17, 2015. Payne sent CHS a link to a website advertising a Element DBAL-D2 red Dot Aiming Laser with IR LED Illuminator Dark Earth. The features listed for this device indicate it can be placed on a 20 mm rail system, and is capable of Infrared illumination and Night Vision observation. In a text accompanying the link, Payne said, “Have you seen these? Get 10. Iol”
On January 5, 2016, Payne learns that Dyman is not willing to travel to Burns. Apparently, as with Dennis Dickenson, Payne was led on thinking that Dyman was going to come when the time to act came.Payne indicated he understood he could not count on CHS, and would pursue some other avenues. Payne xxxx has been conducting operations for over three years, including the Bunkerville matter and what is going on in Oregon, and law enforcement has never messed with him.
On January 11, 2016, Dyman repeats that he will not be going to Oregon. Apparently, Payne finally realized that Dyman was a man of words, not of actions.CHS told Ryan Payne CHS would not be coming to Oregon to provide supplies, ammunition, and support for Payne’s operation at the wildlife refuge. CHS told Payne CHS was concerned about a recent visit CHS had received from county law enforcement, and the FBI or other officials might attempt to hamper CHS’s travel to Oregon. Payne indicated he understood that he could not count on CHS, and would pursue some other avenues. From several prior conversations, CHS knows that Payne believed CHS might be able to supply body armor, night vision, armor piercing ammunition, rifles, and other equipment. Payne told CHS he has been conducting operations for over three years, including the Bunkerville matter and what is going on in Oregon, and law enforcement has never messed with him. Payne angrily ended the exchange. CHS understood from Payne’s comments that their relationship is now severed.
Now, to provide a little more background, when I wrote Dennis Dickenson (Dennis Jones, you see that FBI Special Agent Mark D. Seyler is listed on a report. That report is on FBI Form FD-1057. I have done some research and found that the 1057 form is the results from a search of the government database, based on keyword search criteria. It appears that Ryan Payne was probably the search request.11/04/2015
Drafted By: Mark D. Seyler
Case ID: xxxx
Collected From: xxxx
Receipt Given?: No
Holding Office: SALT LAKE CITYDetails:Operation is a militia-related network founded by Ryan Payne and xxxx. xxxx Details concerning OMD’s current status and development can be found in the referenced EC # xxxx. In summary, Payne was the leader of OMD’s precursor organization Operation Mutual Aid, when he helped to instigate the militia response to the Bundy Ranch event in April 2014. He served as Militia Coordinator for the Bundy Family during the standoff against the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), and is seeking to instigate similar such standoffs against the government through OMD.
The entire 1057 is 6 pages long and gives a detailed account of the workings, and information obtained by Dickenson, of the Operation Mutual Defense (OMD) Advisory Board. The 1023 forms for Dickenson and Dyman are the only two out of the total 15 reports that have this 1057 in them. This ties both parties to OMD, and both had submitted the required applications to OMD.There can be little doubt that these two were recruited to report on OMD, as well as any other information they could obtained from that association.
Tom Dyman is CHS #9, and is an outside informant. NOTE: If anybody has a picture of Tom Dyman, I would appreciate being provided a copy so that we all know what this informant looks like. Share this:
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- http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/669463c...=109&d=mm&r=pgArthur says:
December 23, 2016 at 1:00 pm
Gary,
Are you going to publish these government forms?
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- http://outpost-of-freedom.com/blog/w...2220-48x48.jpgghunt says:
December 23, 2016 at 1:14 pm
Absolutely not. First, there were conditions set by my source. Second, each document is clearly marked, “Dissemination Limited by Court Order”. Though I don’t see that I am bound by the Court Order, I have agreed not to disseminate them. Now, as to whether the source disseminated them, I think not. That is because of out agreement that I would only excerpt from hem, and that is all that I intend to do.
There are many that question whether I am falsely representing what they say. That is their prerogative. All of us read things. When we are finished reading, we decide whether we believe them, or not.
I stand behind what I have written, and I am willing to discuss them with the subjects, on Internet radio, if they prefer. However, exception of McConnell, none of even declared their innocence, at least t te best of my knowledge.
I will state that all that I know from my investigation is not necessarily included in my articles. Perhaps, if they know that, it would explain their silence.
I find myself, once again having to deal with my accusers, however, I don’t run from it — I take it head on.
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
Jon Ritzheimer's Christmas gift to Mark McConnell
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Informant Mark McConnell Receives Surprise Christmas Gift From Activist Jon Ritzheimer
PROVEN – STRONG – ADVOCACY – JOURNALISM
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MERRY CHRISTMAS MARK McCONNELL
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Informant Mark McConnell Ordered To Stop HarassmentOn Tuesday – October 11th, 2016 – Jon Ritzheimer was sitting at a outside table at Nana Tee’s restaurant in Phoenix Arizona with friends when he was suddenly assaulted by Mark McConnell and girlfriend Shannon Vita, who were armed and ready to fight.
McConnell, was revealed to be the key informant during the Malhuer Wildlife Refuge trials in Portland Oregon – who helped Oregon State Troopers and the FBI set up a deadly roadblock which resulted in the death of Mr. Ritzheimer’s friend and fellow activist, Arizona Rancher -LaVoy Finicum.
After the stop Mr. McConnell was apprehended along with Ammon Bundy and other’s who were actively taking part in an attempt at an adverse possession of the Malhuer Wildlife Refuge located about 30 miles outside of Burns, Oregon. McConnell had been an active participant in the possession posing as Ammon Bundy’s armed lead security person, and was driving the jeep that carried key occupation leaders when they were pulled over. McConnell was the only person who exited the vehicle armed, and was one of two released after questioning. This set off a flurry of accusations that McConnell was an informant, which he aggressively denied and still denies to this day – even though Oregon State troopers and FBI witnesses say otherwise.
Many official documents taken directly from discovery in the case of United States vs Ammon Bundy et al, proving Mark McConnell’s involvement as an informant – can be found on activist blogger/writer Gary Hunt’s website – Outpost of Freedom.
Ritzheimer, who would eventually be arrested for his role during the possession of the Refuge, said he was minding his own business when McConnell came at him aggressively walking up to his table; Jon’s friends saw McConnell before he did. ” I stood up as I saw him approach the table – he said, and I remember thinking as he and his girlfriend flashed their weapons, this could get ugly.”
Witnesses say it was clear McConnell was spoiling for a fight and that he knew because of Jon’s court-ordered release conditions he would not be carrying a weapon and likely to break his pre-trial release agreement if he were to engaged in a public fight. But it did not stop McConnell from approaching Ritzheimer using intimidation to coax him to react.
Friends say Jon stayed very calm and told McConnell that he wanted nothing to do with him. Ritzheimer filed a police report the following day on October 12th, 2016.
Sheriffs who had been trying to serve McConnell with an Injunction Against Harassment (Restraining Order) since the day it was granted to Mr. Ritzheimer on October 18th, found their target to be illusive, but early Christmas Eve morning Maricopa County Sheriffs received a tip that McConnell was home in bed nursing a pretty bad hang-over. The Injunction was later served successfully.
McConnell and members of the Arizona lll% Organization, Veterans On Patrol, and various groups who run operations on the border, have been critical of Mr. Ritzheimer and others who participated in the adverse possession of the Malhuer Wildlife Refuge, and that criticism took a sinister turn when McConnell approached an unsuspecting Jon Ritzheimer who was simply having dinner with his friends.
Even though some of McConnell’s friends were also present at the refuge, and are documented to have been reporting to the FBI on a daily basis, none played as clear a role as Mark McConnell did while there.
Fueled by internet rumor and speculation, many threats have been posted by McConnell and his followers on social media. So much so, a Judge ruled clearly that Mark McConnell and anyone acting on his behalf, posed a real threat to Mr. Ritzheimer and his wife Rachel – and have been ordered to stop all harassment and have no contact including on-line.
Critics of Mark McConnell say, McConnell’s assault on Jon Ritzheimer in a crowded restaurant where innocent by-standers could have been hurt, clearly proves his excuse for turning informant based on his concern that innocent people could have been hurt or killed at the Refuge, is a lie.
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Many also believe that McConnell is successfully achieving a gang-like mentality among various groups who are now boldly sending out threatening orders for certain people to stay off their turf. Threats seem to be predominately coming from Militias in Western States, in particular those groups participating in various organizations from Arizona. Arizona seems to be a hotbed of contempt where the beginnings of the Malhuer Shakedown is suspected to have been born and a good deal of the Malhuer informants call home.
We heard a lot of talk coming out of Arizona before, during, and after the Occupation of Malhuer – that was, and continues to be pretty threatening. It has not gotten past us that much of that talk originated with Mark McConnell and his friend Melvin Lee – said one concerned activist — To think that good men would wrap their arms around informants and call them Brothers – to simply settle a vendetta is abhorrent to me – he said. It is clear they want some kind of turf war that will turn former allies into mortal enemies, and good organizations into gangs. (Source Protected)
McConnell or anyone who is acting on behalf of Mark McConnell, have been ordered to stop harassing Mr. Ritzheimer and his family. McConnell is often noticed for his on-line bragging about “doing it right” and it is yet to be seen if McConnell and his merry group of “Full Overblown Ex-Patriots” will approach Jon Ritzheimer moving forward, or if they have sense enough to follow a court order and begin to practice what they preach. Sources tell us Sheriffs spent approx. (2) hours with McConnell and left carrying items they had taken from his mobile home. Guns are suspected to be among those items taken.
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Gary Hunt has more on govt. informants. Outpost of Freedom.
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Burns Chronicles No 50 – Informants – What to do About Them #2
December 25, 2016, 7:07 pm
Burns Chronicles No 50
Informants – What to do About Them #2
Gary Hunt
Outpost of Freedom
December 25, 2016
Merry Christmas, Mark McConnell
The matter of informants, and the government’s efforts to protect the names of those who have snuck into our midst is a denial of justice and to some degree, the Sixth Amendment right “to be confronted with the witnesses against him.”
Now, we can look at what the government wants us to believe. We can also look at what common sense dictates that the Framers of the Constitution meant. Just because a person doesn’t take the stand in court, when that person has provided information to the government, upon which the government builds its case, he has witnessed against the accused. The defendants, then, had every right to confront that “witness”, as he is privy to what he saw, what he heard, and what he said to the government. He is as much a part of the case against the defendant as the person who takes the stand, takes an oath, and testifies. Quite often, he is the justification for a search or arrest warrant to be issued, or a criminal indictment to be brought, before the court.
However, when that ‘witness’ is hidden from the defendant, the defendant is denied information that may aid him in a proper and fair defense. In some cases, their testimony might provide exculpatory evidence, testimony that might prove his innocence, that would undermine the contrived case made by the government.
With the recent trial of Ammon Bundy, et al, we can begin to put together a picture of the injustice and the dishonesty of the government’s pretext for hiding such “witnesses.”
We will begin with a partial trial transcript of the trial on October 17, 2016:
THE COURT:I would like to start first with Ms. Harris’s motion with respect to the identity of a witness. [Some of] the defendants have subpoenaed, it’s Docket No. 1443, And it is really a subset of the larger issue raised both by Ryan Bundy in previous filings and by Ammon Bundy in his motion to compel 1423. Before, I received Ms. Harris’ filing, which I only received this morning about 7:00 a.m. it showed up in my system, I had emailed to the parties my preliminary conclusions having reviewed, in camera, the unredacted reports related to the so-called CHSs confidential human sources, 15 different individuals, 112 reports, and I conveyed in that email to the parties that I have compared the redacted to the nonredacted reports and according to the applicable standard, did not find any basis to disclose the identity of those 15 confidential human sources. I observed to the parties that as I compared the redactions from the unredacted material, I really didn’t find any substantive significance. The redactions primarily looked to me as necessary to protect the identity of the informant, and so with respect to that general review, I conveyed to the parties my intention was to deny the motion generally.Then came in Ms. Harris’s motion on behalf of Ms. Cox with respect to a very particular one of those 15 confidential human sources, identified in her motion as number two, as to whom I have the redacted and unredacted materials. That was one person’s records I went through.
The motion indicates that the defendants have found the actual CH#2 who was known to the — who went by an alias, according to this motion, of John Killman. K-I-L-L-M-A-N. And so the motion goes on to argue why it’s relevant, first of all, for the defendants to call this person whose alias is John Killman and to introduce evidence from his personal knowledge of observations he made at the refuge.
And I presume defendants already know his true name in that they — Ms. Harris tells me in this filing that he’s been subpoenaed in his, is physically present, and needs to testify first thing because of other issues in his life.
We can see that the identification of the informants is a primary concern of Judge Anna Brown.
Next to speak is one of the Government attorneys..
BARROW: Good morning, Your Honor, the government’s position is that the filing of ECF 1443 doesn’t change the analysis. If this whole issue of disclosure of informants had been filed in a timely manner, say in August, of this year, the government would have asserted the informant’s privilege and would have said we weren’t obligated to disclose the identity of any informants and would have, through that mechanism, tried to keep the defense from putting informants on the stand.
What has happened now is that the defense believes that its identified an informant and believes that somehow that triggers some obligation for the government to confirm his status and his identity and we simply don’t think that that is the way the law works. We’re [intending] to preclude the defense from calling anyone. We don’t believe we have that ability, but requiring the government to somehow confirm defendants’ suspicions would similarly be a way around the Roviaro [decision] in the informant’s privilege.
Mr. Barrow mentions the Roviaro decision with regard to “informant’s privilege”. So, it behooves us to know just where this privilege comes from and why.
The Roviaro decision, Roviaro v. United States 353 U.S. 53 (1957), dealt with an informant, “John Doe”, who had purchased narcotics from Albert Roviaro. Roviaro then moved for a bill of particulars requesting, among other things, the name, address and occupation of “John Doe”. The Government objected on the ground that John Doe was an informer and that his identity was privileged. The motion was denied.
Now, drug dealers are notorious for violence, even murder, to protect themselves. So, it is understandable that in those circumstances, the identification of the informant was protected, for his personal safety.
However, Mr. Barrow gave away his hand, in the first paragraph of what he said, above, when he stated, on the record, that it “would have, through that mechanism, tried to keep the defense from putting informants on the stand.” Quite simply, he did not want the informants to testify. In fact, no informants, though paid, or at least compensated for expenses, by the government, were called, even though we know that there were 15 of them.
Here are a couple of quotes from the Roviaro decision:
The purpose of the privilege is the furtherance and protection of the public interest in effective law enforcement. The privilege recognizes the obligation of citizens to communicate their knowledge of the commission of crimes to law-enforcement officials and, by preserving their anonymity, encourages them to perform that obligation.
Well, if a passing observer reports something amiss to the government, I can see that there might be a question of whether providing information about the informant would serve any useful information to the defense. But, this is not the type of informant we are addressing. This would be more along the lines of someone who was interviewed, though the form for that type of interview is the FBI form 302, where a report of a casual interview develops information. It is far different than the form 1023, which is titled “CHS Reporting Document”, and is based upon a contractual agreement, including expenses and compensation, legally making the informant a temporary agent of the government, however not required to identify themselves as such.
Then, we have the Court telling us:We believe that no fixed rule with respect to disclosure is justifiable. The problem is one thatcalls for balancing the public interest in protecting the flow of information against theindividual’s right to prepare his defense. Whether a proper balance renders nondisclosure erroneous must depend on the particular circumstances of each case, taking into consideration the crime charged, the possible defenses, the possible significance of the informer’s testimony, and other relevant factors.
Now, since two informants testified for the defense, how can it possibly be the determination of the prosecuting attorney as to whether the informant would serve as “the individual’s right to prepare his defense“, as was proven with regard to “the possible significance of the informer’s testimony.”
On to the meat of the whole argument:
Once an informant is known the drug traffickers are quick to retaliate. Dead men tell no tales. The old penalty of tongue removal, once visited upon the informer Larunda, has been found obsolete.
Of course where enforcement of a nondisclosure policy deprives an accused of a fair trial it must either be relaxed or the prosecution must be foregone. The Government is fully aware of this dilemma and solves it every day by foregoing prosecutions in many cases where evidence essential to the defense would require disclosure. But this is not such a case.Here, then, is the distinction between selling drugs and waving the Constitution. The simple fact that the Second Amendment right was also exercised does not allow that right, the presence of firearms, to denigrate any other portion of the constitutionally protected rights.
If the government cannot afford the right to a fair trial, which they did not do in the first Portland trial, then the subsequent prosecution of the remaining defendants “must be foregone.”
There remain eight unidentified informants. If they are not disclosed, then the government would be in violation of the very Supreme Court decision (Roviaro) that they used to argue their right to not identify the informers.
As far as the government and informants, it seems that Congress has trouble even finding out to what extent informants are used by the various investigative agencies of the government.
In recent “House Oversight & Government Reform Committee hearing"
(video 6:22), Rep. Stephen Lynch (D. Mass.) points out that the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) has 18,000 informants “out there”, spending $237 million last year. The FBI is not included in that figure, though Lynch suggests that the FBI budget is comparable to that of the DEA.
Now, perhaps, there is justification for the DEA to both use and protect their informants, since they are dealing with people that have a high propensity for violence. At about 5:10, Thomas Blanton, George Washington University, makes the point that serious threat, or current investigation, are the only roles for the protection of informants.
So, let’s look at the situation involving the events in Burns, Oregon, this past January and February. There is no threat, as Barrow suggests, and the investigation is over. So, that investigation is not current, but under the guise of risk to informants, the Judge upheld the government position.
During the trial in Portland, on September 21, 2016, government prosecutor Gabriel intentionally elicited testimony from Oregon State Police Officer Beckert that exposed Mark McConnell as an informant for the FBI during the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. So, was there a concern for the safety of a government informant? The intentional exposure defies any consideration of concern for McConnell’s safety. So, apparently, Roviaro had no justification in being applied in McConnell’s case, why would it be of concern with regard to any other informant?
During the course of the trial, two more informants came out of the cold. First was Terri Linnell, who contacted defense attorneys so that she could testify on behalf of the defendants. Then came Fabio Minoggio (aka John Killman), who was found by the diligence of the defendants and their attorney investigators.Since that time, not one of the informants has been subjected to any harm, though one has been subject to considerable verbal abuse on the Internet.Since the end of the trial, three additional informants have been exposed. They have not been subjected to death threats, or in any way subjected to any physical harm.
On the contrary, we have one of the informants who has threatened one of the defendants. Deb Jordan has provided a thorough and documented explanation of this threat in her article, “Informant Mark McConnell Receives Surprise Christmas Gift From Activist Jon Ritzheimer“.
However, briefly, this past October 11, Jon and some friends were at a restaurant. McConnell found out that Jon Ritzheimer was there, so he went to the restaurant with his girlfriend and threatened Jon, attempting to get him into a fight.
Suffice it to say that those who wave the Constitution are no threat, at all. However, government informants do pose a threat, and should be exposed for what they are — spies upon the American people who are doing no more than exercising their rights — Something that should never be tolerated in this once great country of ours. List of informants exposed, to date, and associated articles:
Burns Chronicles No 32 – Terri Linnell (Mama Bear)
Burns Chronicles No 40 – Allen Varner – Wolf
Burns Chronicles No 41 – Dennis Dickenson (Dennis Jones)
Burns Chronicles No 42 – Fabio Minoggio (John Killman)
Burns Chronicles No 43 – Terri Linnell (Mama Bear) #2
Burns Chronicles No 44 – Mark McConnell
Burns Chronicles No 45 – Mark McConnell #2
Burns Chronicles No 47 – Robert “Rob” Seever
BurnsbChronicles No 48 – Robert “Rob” Seever (R.W. Seaver) #2
Burns Chronicles No 49 – Thomas S. Dyman (Tom Dyman)
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LaVoy Finicum gives a 5 minute lesson on the Constitution posted by his daughter Chalice Lee Finicum Finch Nov. 28, 2016
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William Kullman CHS #14, an insider at the Malheur Refuge. Gary Hunt Outpost of Freedom
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Burns Chronicles No 51 – William “Will” Kullman (Night Hawk)
December 28, 2016, 1:25 pm
Burns Chronicles No 51
William “Will” Kullman (Night Hawk)
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Gary Hunt
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December 28, 2016
Jon Ritzheimer had put out a call for more people to come to the Refuge, shortly after the occupation on January 2, 2016. Many people who supported the effort being made by Ammon Bundy and the others resent that message.On January 3, Will Kullman contacted Maureen Peltier (SSG Moe). Peltier was one of those who had passed the message on. His first contact with Peltier shows that he was from Lake Stevens, Washington and that he was Founder of “Kullman Combat Organization”. Some of the text messages indicate his desire to help:
“I wanna come down to Oregon to help. What do I need to bring and when is the best time to come?”
Is there an armed militia that is doing security like we did at Sugar Pine and Bundy? Just wondering if I should bring a weapon.
He then stated that he “had a team ready to go…” And, then asked for a contact for when he got there. However, when he arrived in Burns, he was alone.
He knew that Ritzheimer was a Marine, so he sent the message:
“I will be there to help him. Tell him a fellow Marine is on his way to help him. Tell him I said “Semper Fi.”
On January 6, as he entered Harney County, he relayed messages through Peltier, announcing his approaching the Refuge. At 8:33 PM, he was driving in fog about 16 miles out from the Refuge. Then, at 10:56 pm, he reported to Peltier that he had arrived and that he “just met up with Ryan.” (Not sure if it was Payne or Bundy, as both were present at the time.)
“Semper fi”, short for “semper fidelis”, is the Marine Corps motto, Always faithful — that Marines will always be faithful to the Corps and other Marines. Both Ritzheimer and Kullman were Marines, though Kullman was more than willing to turn against his fellow Marine.
January 7, the day after Kullman arrived, he texted:
“You know there’s only maximum 40 of us here… Not as many as before. Get the word out. They are cutting power to the Refuge.”
Peltier questioned his going public with that sort of information and told Kullman that such information should only come out from the leadership. Peltier was beginning to have questions about Kullman’s assertiveness and assuming the authority to speak for the Refuge..
Then, on January 8, in an apparent effort to impress Peltier, he texts:
“Actually, I was just made the team leader of the militia with Jon, so trust my intel when I give it to you.”
Peltier, concerned about what role Kullman is playing, contacted Ritzheimer to explain what Kullman was doing. She indicates to Kullman that she has spoken with Ritzheimer and that he did not want any numbers to be given out. Kullman had been given a leadership position; he replaced Ryan Payne as head of one of the three militia units. The initial militia units were headed by Payne, Ritzheimer, and Varner, as explained in “Burns Chronicles No 40 – Allen Varner (Wolf)“.
The next day, January 9, Kullman is again trying to butter up Peltier, probably realizing that she has concerns about him, texts:
“At the point, with as much media that’s been here, everyone knows. You’re the only person that can get trusted and resourceful information out to the people. I’m sorry that I made you feel like a subordinate, but, the fact remains your ability to get the word out that we need help is impertinent (?) to the cause. I know we don’t know each other that well, but if Payne, Cooper, the Bundys and even Ritzheimer trust my judgment, maybe you could too, one day. Thanks for what you are doing. Out.”
You can see that he is trying to get closer to Peltier by his praise and his claim that “Payne, Cooper, the Bundys and even Ritzheimer trust” his judgment“. Kullman ended up leaving the Refuge on January 12 or 13.
Thus ended the communication between Kullman and Peltier, until January 26, after LaVoy Finicum was murdered, and all but two of the remaining members of the convoy had been arrested. There was confusion as to whether the Ryan that had been shot was Bundy or Payne. Until subsequent calls were made, and eventually it was established that it was Ryan Bundy, only Mark McConnell and Victoria Sharp knew for sure who it was. So, Kullman crowns his lies with a final effort to endear himself to Peltier, when he sends this message:
“Just got off the phone with a person who was with the people that were arrested, and he was released. Told me what happened to everyone including Payne and LaVoy."
It was Ryan Bundy, and McConnell knew that. Payne was put with McConnell, Ammon, and Booda, where they sat in the cold until the events down the road, where Ryan Bundy received a wound and LaVoy was killed.
Peltier, however, had had enough of Kullman and refused to answer any texts after the 8th.
Now, let’s venture into Kullman’s role as an informant and what information he provided to the FBI. This information is from the FBI form 1023, “CHS Reporting Documents”. CHS is Confidential Human Source”, or informant, or perhaps, spy. This, “xxxx”, indicates redactions within the paragraph. Those marked “PTM” by me are probably “Private Text Messages”, since time-stamps appear on the reports.
January 7, 2016 – PTM7: 27 AM: xxxx The whole refuge is under control. The federal worker cabins on sight are being used for shelter and housing for the militia. Hot water, electricity, and hot chow available. Numbers are minimal and most have received very little sleep. Weapons are not required for watch, but are not frowned upon either. They are trying not to make a scene by having them.
2:26 PM: There is a large supply of free food and a lot of donations. CHS is on the inside with JON RITZHEIMER and RYAN PAYNE. CHS has been asked to be a body guard for the BUNDY’s. Right now, there is zero organization and they are in a defensive posture. There are one or two guys on guard. There is a front guard and a back gate guard. The guys also have zero experience as far as training and weapons. There are about 30-40 people and maybe 75% are combatants. Weapons are staying in vehicles. Most everyone is just carrying a pistol on them. Mostly 5.56, hand guns, and some 7.62 Ak-style rifles. There are some higher calibers, like a couple of .308’s and apparently a .300 Win Mag. There is consistent talks of taking up arms if LEO/FEDS come onto the refuge and they all seem pretty serious about it. They are going through the property and using what they can use to aid their stay.
2:27 PM: Only a few folks have armor with no QRF, patrolling or legitimate security in place. There is a total complacency for security. These guys don’t have a clue what they are doing.
January 8, 2016– PTM12:40 PM: There is an older guy, drives a 90’s model Suburban and dressed like a cowboy. He stated that he planned to go to where LEO were and give them a piece of his mind.
1:20 PM: More gun fighters showed up. 8 or 9 of them with AR-15’s, pistols, but no kits yet observed. They are an organized group from southeast Oregon.
2:35 PM: No eyes on, but confirmed through constituents that the Oregon III% and Idaho III% have deployed to the refuge. “Reinforcements” are inbound.
2:43 PM: There is a guy LEO should look into. He is talking about how the way we deal with the problem is to ambush officials and “blow their heads off with shotguns and solve the problem no evidence.” His name is ROBERT HART and he is in his mid-50’s. He’s a lunatic. CHS noted he/she would attempt to get license plate. He drives a green two-door Suburban. He is not associated with these guys and they have made numerous complaints about him already.
January 9, 2016 PTM11:39 AM: About 20 vehicles with 50+ men from Idaho and Oregon III% and OATH KEEPERS just showed up. Add about another 100 firearms to my original count. ANDREW BERDOTHA is here now.
2:42 PM: BERDOTHA and that huge convoy of III% left. They are apparently staying in the area, but not at the refuge. BERDOTHA admitted they had been harassing LEO’s out in town. RYAN BUNDY and his bodyguard with a two man security detail are out in BURNS, OR heading to BLM office to screw a sign to the door that says “permanently closed.
”Now, Sheriff Ward, the FBI, Mainstream Media, and many others, claimed that those at the Refuge were harassing the LEOs in Burns. However, Kullman reports that it was Idaho III%, Oregon III%, and OathKeepers that were responsible for the harassing going on in Burns. No wonder the FBI wanted to hide Kullman and his testimony. Berdotha is an OathKeeper from Bend, Oregon.
3:41 PM: BERDOTHA talked about their group going to the airport to harass you guys (Agent note: “You guys” are meant to be FBI.)
10:08 PM The numbers for during the day and night as permanent personnel stay roughly the same. Maybe +/- 5 people stay out in town, but they are most out of town ranchers or civilians who are in a supportive role. The media never stay overnight. There are roughly 20 “Militia” or “security” combatants on site. However, there are about 50 people on site and all of them claim to be combatants. But actual personnel who are pulling security and have weapons is about 20. There are around 6 children ages 10 and younger with 2 infants to include AMMON BUNDY’s family who are staying on site. Key players, such as RITZ, PAYNE, the BUNDY’s and COOPER do not stay in town, they stay at the refuge every night.
11:04 PM: If you mess with the refuge (Agent note: referring to LEO), they will be right behind you to take you down.
January 10, 2016 – PTM9:41 AM: AMMON BUNDY and a small personal security detail are heading south to Fields, OR in one vehicle. There are 5 total personnel and 6 total weapons. They are heading down on the 205 and not using any other routes.
9:48 AM: They are going to Fields, OR to attend a meeting where they will talk with the community about the refuge and what they’re doing. They are traveling in a white, four door, Ford pick-up.
Kullman has been providing tactical information, however, here, he is setting the stage, probably hoping that the FBI will set up a roadblock and take Ammon and the others down. It appears that he is traveling with them, and would probably play hero if there was a roadblock, and arrest Ammon while still in the “white, four door, Ford pick-up“, going south on 205.
11:25 AM: At Fields, OR school house. There are about 50-60 people in attendance including children.
2:22 PM: Group heading back to refuge from Fields, OR.4:33 PM: Denotes picture of LEQUIEU. (Picture attached to 1A).
5:18 PM: Retired Army General NELSON has arrived and he presented AMMON BUNDY with his bronze star from Iraq. NELSON is here for moral support.
5:46 PM: PAYNE has been pretty stable, mainly dealing with operations politics with the ranchers. He is always with the BUNDY’s, PATRICK, and RITZ. He rarely leaves.
10:02 PM: PAYNE will be leaving soon. He isn’t staying much longer, but plans on returning. PAYNE and RITZ are going to be outside the wire tonight on patrol armed with AR 5.56 and .308 FAL with scope. Unsure of their exact location.
January 11, 2016 – PTM – [It appears that there was two-way texting going on during this session. Case agent is pasting CHS texting, but not his own.]
5:06 AM: CHS reported, ” I asked. He’s working on it.”
5:34 AM: There is no evidence or proof that government computers were used, but it appears that the computers on the refuge appear untouched. Only hard supplies, like paper, printers, and physical supplies were used. The only other computers here are personal ones. No one appears capable of being able to access the computers via hacking.
10:25 AM: PAYNE is in town on a mail run.10:29 AM: PAYNE plans to leave for an extended period of time.
xxxx10:34 AM: LEQUIEU confirmed he was a felon today in a debate over gun rights with felons. As far as the other two, one does not have a weapon with him, or on him, and one has expressed he is not allowed to carry one. The other one is no longer on the refuge.
2:36 PM: Someone sent that to RITZ and PAYNE (referring to photo of sexual toy-picture attached.)
2:37 PM: Do you understand how hard it is to control my composure? I’m dying on the inside (referring to aforementioned photo).
5:53 PM: Agents and LEO followed RITZHEIMER? Because that’s what he said. If you did or have Agents hanging out near the refuge, or on any ridge, PAYNE and JASON PATRICK agreed to go full kit and weapon to approach the Agents and surround them to talk. (Agent note: On 01/19/2016, additional details were provided in a follow-up interview). RITZHEIMER believed he was followed while on his way into town on HWY 205. He was on his way to the VERIZON store when 3-4 all white law enforcement vehicles followed him.
What? No threat, simply talk? That’s not what we heard in the courtroom.
5:58 PM: No he was followed into town. Said it was federal VIC’s and LEO that followed him into town.
6:31 PM: You know they ripped down a fence the BLM put up right?
8:18 PM: Two more semi auto .308’s showed up today. An MIA Socom and FAL.
8:58 PM: Unsure of the timing, but the people here are trying to get a lot of money together to make a large purchase of tactical equipment. They want LBV’s, mag pouches, magazines, ammo, optics, holsters, and belts. They want to use the items to distribute to people who came with nothing. Some people are saying they are willing to contribute money to purchase weapons. It’s all talk right now. As far as acting on it, it is unclear when it will happen.
January 12, 2016 – PTM8:59 AM: It is unclear when, but people at MWR are trying to get a lot of money together to make a large purchase of tactical equipment. They want to buy IBV’s, mag pouches, magazines, ammo, optics, holsters, and belts for people who show-up with nothing. Some people are saying they will contribute money to buy weapons, but it’s all talk right now. Unsure when they will act on it.
2:06 PM: For the past two nights, PAYNE and RITZHEIMER have been out around 11 PM -2 AM looking for federal and local law enforcement officers who may be in the area on the sides of the roads. They have been taking weapons with them and have been looking for about 2.5 hours to “show a force” to the Agents or LEO’s if they see them. They are usually in the area of 205 MSR.
2:23 PM: Located another shotgun and .300 WIN MAG.
Kullman then left the Refuge. However, he hadn’t ended his role. His Case Agent, shortly before the murder of Lavoy Finicum, who had some questions, contacted him.
January 22, 2016 CHS was asked to identify an individual in a photo. The individual in the attached photo is standing to the left with a black stocking cap on and a desert digital camouflage top. CHS identified the individual as Geoff Stanek who CHS believed was from northwest Oregon. CHS stated that Stanek could also be from southwest Washington. CHS stated that Stanek is a Army combat medic veteran.
CHS was also asked if any of the subjects at the MWR had fired a weapon while at the refuge. CHS stated that the subjects talked about making a rifle range on the property to shoot and practice, but was changed to building one off the refuge and shooting somewhere else. Payne was interested in finding out where the “Feds” had been posting up and set up a rifle range right next to them.
The FBI sought identification of individuals in a photograph, though no indication of the source of the photo. Then, they queried about gun firing on the Refuge, even though the Refuge allows hunting and has no restriction on firearms (See Burns Chronicles No 26 – Firearms Not Allowed). It was just a day later that “John Killman (See Burns Chronicles No 42 – Fabio Minoggio (John Killman)) began firearms training and led the occupiers in to a firing exercise, which the video of became a key piece of the prosecution’s evidence – until Killman testified.
January 25, 2016CHS reported that Jon Ritzheimer left the Malheur Wildlife Refuge (MWR) last night and plans to be away for approximately a week or so. Payne is still at the MWR and CHS was not aware if Payne intended to ever leave on his own.
January 25, 21016, the day before LaVoy’s death, is the last report that is within the obtained documents.
Kullman demonstrates one of the characteristics of an informant. He tried to ride Peltier as an entrance to the Refuge, hoping that it would be “credentials”, though Peltier made clear that she did not know Kullman. Kullman then lied to Peltier about his role and authority at the Refuge, but he failed, in that effort, too.
When someone starts dropping names, contact those named to see if what is claimed is, in fact, true. Your diligence, in this regard, may save you some grief.
Kullman was an “inside” informant, identified as “CHS #14”.
Prior to publishing this article, I called Kullman. As I began to explain that I was writing an article about the role he played at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, and see if he wanted to see the article and comment, he hung up the phone, in my midsentence.
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In the past day, we have learned William kullman (Security detail for Ammon and Ryan) was at the refuge as a government informant and also visited us twice in Portland during trial, President Obama stole over a million acres from the people in two different Sovereign States and gave it to the federal government and Ryan Payne's motion for a plea reversal in Oregon was denied. Never a dull moment.
While we're talking about dull moments, WHO SHOT LAVOY TO MAKE HIM DROP HIS HANDS AND THEN WHO JOINED THE CONSPIRACY AND SHOT HIM 3 TIMES IN THE BACK TAKING HIM TO HIS DEATH AND WHEN IS THEIR TRIAL?!?!?!?! Also, Who fired shots at the truck hitting Ryan Bundy in the shoulder and almost killing two, non threatening women? How's that 11 month long investigation going FBI and DOJ?
Do we ever get answers from our government when they've gone rogue? Or do we forget as we're lured into compliance with nice things and nice vacations?
I will not forget.
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Judge Anna J. Brown
The old adage, “Better late than never” unfortunately doesn’t apply to a Montana man named Ryan Payne… He is one of the defendants in the Oregon Standoff Trial who pled guilty to charges of preventing Federal officers from doing their job through the use of threats or intimidation. Mr. Payne pled guilty under duress while being denied bail and kept in custody for almost a year now. Mr. Payne’s guilty plea was offered in return for a promise to receive concurrent sentences in Oregon and Nevada on another federal indictment he will stand trial for next month involving the Bunkerville Standoff which at the Bundy Ranch in 2014. Mr. Payne sought to withdraw his guilty plea when Federal prosecutors in Nevada failed to honor their arrangements with him. For Ryan Payne it would have been better if Judge Brown had never ruled on his motion to withdraw his guilty plea…
Alas, nearly two months after an Oregon Jury returned NOT GUILTY verdicts for Ammon and Ryan Bundy, and five other defendants in the first group to stand trial over the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge the same District Court Judge, Anna J. Brown who presided over those trials denied Ryan Payne’s motion today to withdraw his guilty plea after Federal prosecutors renigged on their deal with him…
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Defending her decision not to grant Mr. Payne’s change of plea the judge declared, “It was a typical case of buyers remorse”. Mr. Payne filed his motion to change his plea to NOT GUILTY over two and a half months ago on October 13th, 2016 long before an Oregon jury returned not guilty verdicts for all seven defendants in the first group to stand trial, but Federal prosecutors objected to his change of plea motion even though they were the ones who reneged on the plea deal they offered him to have any sentence he received in Oregon run concurrently with any sentence he received in Nevada.
As a result of the Judge’s ruling Ryan Payne will now have to serve at least three and a half years in Federal prison for his participation in the protest in Oregon in addition to whatever time he receives in Nevada while everyone else who was at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge in Oregon including the leaders of the so called “occupation” wont have to serve any time in jail in theory at least…
Actually Ammon and Ryan Bundy have already been locked up without bail for almost a year now just like Payne…
but that is how our wonderful justice system works under America’s first Black President and America’s second Black Attorney General.
Isn’t diversity a great thing?
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Jon Ritzheimer to question Mark McConnell in court hearing Jan. 8, Pete Santilli Show
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Jon Ritzheimer To Question Informant Mark McConnell In upcoming Harassment Hearing
He'll be under oath and I look forward to finally being able to ask this guy some questions ...
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Mark McConnell who was ordered to stop the harassment of a popular activist out of Arizona, has decided to fight the injunction (Restraining Order) that he was served with on Christmas Eve, and will now face questioning by Jon Ritzheimer in an upcoming public hearing in Phoenix, Arizona.
Mr. Ritzheimer who filed a police report after being assaulted by McConnell at a Pheonix eatery this past October, says he looks forward to questioning Mark McConnell under oath when this goes before a Judge.
http://thepetesantillishow.com/wp-co...m-1024x580.jpgI have some questions for Mark McConnell concerning his role as an informant and if that role includes threatening me while I’m having dinner – says Ritzheimer. If this guy is still on the payroll I think I have a right to know, especially if he is going to approach me with a weapon and challenge me to a fight. Is he following me around Phoenix in an ongoing FBI effort to implicate me in some kind of wrong-doing or is he just harassing me because he enjoys being a bully? He’ll be under oath and I look forward to finally being able to ask this guy some questions …
It is not lost on the activist community whom often refer to themselves as “Patriots,” that Mark McConnell and those who follow him have targeted anyone who would criticize the – self appointed border guard turned informant – for his role in the takedown and murder of LaVoy Finicum, and arrest of respected activist Ammon Bundy and others during the Malheur Refuge Adverse Possession outside of Burns, Oregon last winter.
McConnell and the men and women who empowered and encouraged him in some instances to become an informant, are quick to go “full blown assassin” on any Soccer Mom, Grandmother, Veteran, friend, or family member that is even slightly critical of Mr. McConnell and his part-time job with the FBI.
It’s like these people have a spy watching every thread, says a stay at home mom of 3 from Wisconsin;I started following the story this past Winter and have no connection to a Militia, or border group or really any of the people involved — I just thought it was an interesting story. When McConnell was outed during the trial, I left a comment in the thread of one of the Oregon outlets that was covering the case, and simply said I wasn’t shocked that he was an informant because he didn’t get arrested when everyone else did back in January .. I was immediately attacked, and the language was so frightening I immediately deleted my comment.
Our Wisconsin Mom of 3 isn’t the only one who found herself reaping a verbal lashing from Team McConnell; hundreds of people logged complaints against the “Arizona Informant Network” when Louis Author the founder of Veterans on Patrol based in Phoenix Arizona, made “barely veiled death threats” against an outraged public during a series of live Facebook rants shortly after McConnell was exposed.
Ritzheimer sees McConnell’s in person physical threat against him as a next step in the evolution of this new breed of Border Bullies that feel they have some sort of self appointed high-ground to police, harass, and intimidate people that don’t agree with their agenda.
Jon Ritzheimer will face Mark McConnell in an open to the public hearing on January 5th @ 8:30 am in the Phoenix Municipal Courthouse.
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More from this lady Vicky Gray on the communist Bruce Babbit. https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch#
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This is so much more than jurisdiction it is fraud on the Supreme Court. By Bruce Babbitt, you see he had to follow the law in 1993, but he had a plan so he set up a nonprofit called the Public lands Council v Babbitt, he claimed the public land council represented the farm bureaus and the grazing rights groups but they did not. As you can imagine the Public Lands Council did nothing for their supposed groups 10th Cir then on to the US Supreme Court. Now the corruption takes off. In 2004, he tells all about his scam. At the University of Colorado, Center of the American West.
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What I consider to be a very good OP/ED in RangeFire written by a Harney County,Oregon rancher Tim Smith, also chairman of Harney County Committee of Safety
I believe the passage of the admistrative procedures act allowing federal agencies/bureaus to write their own regulations in 1946, the creation of the Bureau of Land Management the same year coupled with human nature's lust for power has been the death nell to private property ownership in Western America. Obama's abuse of the antquites act has added to the problem.
http://rangefire.us/2017/01/03/missi...y-tim-k-smith/
Missing Elements in the Western Land Use Discussion — Op/Ed — by Tim K. Smith
January 3, 2017 - Government/Politics, Land Use News, Opinion/Editorial, Property Rights - Tagged: Allotments, BLM, federal, property rights, public lands, Ranching, Range, RANGEfire - 1 comment
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The western land use events of the last few years seem to have been analyzed, pondered, condemned, praised and generally discussed into a state of confusion and stalemate. For forty or so years I have been active in the advocacy for economic natural resource development, mining, timber, grazing and water.
In these last few years since the Hage case, came the Bullock/Griffen land grab, the Federal intrusion at Bunkerville , the James Redd San Juan County Utah overreaction, the Pautre Fire in South Dakota and most recently the Hammond Family miscarriage of justice and Malheur Refuge and Standing Rock pipeline standoffs.
A myriad of new groups have recognized the abuses and failures of the Federal management of our resource lands. Despite all good intentions, no focused unified direction has been established by those affected by federal abuse and mismanagement.
Individual states such as Utah and Nevada have made the case internally for legislative changes demanding transfer of most Federally managed lands to the state. Most other non-legislative efforts have focused on raising monies to support individuals’ efforts to litigate abuses to their private and divided lands use rights. An example is the well organized and well-intentioned but politically entrenched Cattlemen’s Associations.
It seems three things are missing in the efforts to eliminate bureaucratic resource abuse: (1) education on existing rights of resource users; (2) taking on the root of the problem rather than fighting the after effects of current management abuse; (3) selfless unified action.
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A Missing element 1;
Education; A good example of the failure to understand and unify behind a single issue would be the yearly decreases in grazing allotment numbers and size across the West. It is estimated in the last 20 years AUMs have been reduced across the West by about 40%. In order to survive a rancher with grazing allotment(s) will either have to decease his herd size or increase their cost of feeding cows by 40%. How many small business could survive that kind of readjustment in their business plan? It seems to me that the common sense solution to this would be that the thousands of victim ranchers across the West would unify behind the Constitutional dictate that no property can be taken without due process and just compensation.
To simply accept the Federal premise that an allotment is not real property is simply to lay down your rights to generations of held property. A grazing permit is simply a piece of paper but the allotment is and always has been real property that is bought and sold as a large component of the value of the appurtenant fee ground. I contend that if thousands of allotment owners across the West stood up in unison and said no, you can’t decrease the value of my allotment without due process and compensation, then the policy of annual changes to allotments would be over. The same concept of user unification can be applied to water usage, timber harvest reductions, recreational access and other resource take issues that face users today.
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Missing element 2;
attacking the root of the problem: The fundamental root of the problem in current resource land use development is Federal management.
The incredibly large mass of land the Feds are attempting to manage, under one set of rules, is an abysmal failure for the resource, the environment, the resource user and the tax payer.
This will always be, due to the sheer size and complexity of the lands being mismanaged and the perennial propensity for the Fed agencies to grow and be increasingly controlled by absentee upper management. Classic examples of that growth and absentee control is the transfer of tax dollars from resource production to fire “management” and the onset of traveling teams of fire “incident managers”.
Fire ‘management’ or mismanagement is now a huge tax payer funded business in the West, while the resource production business wanes into obscurity in many regions. Fire is now the Forest Service and BLM’s largest segment of their budget.
Distributing these lands to state and county management would attack the root of the mismanagement we are currently experiencing. This would increase efficiency, decrease cost to tax payers, (see PERC report of 2015, Divided Lands), increase response time to resource and environmental threats and establish local jurisdictions. Local jurisdictions could knowledgably respond to specific resource abuses and damage through local oversight, enforcement and where necessary prosecution by the violators’ peers.
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Missing Element 3;
Unification: We in Harney County, Oregon went through a community hell this last winter. It became clear that what was necessary and best for the economic wellbeing of our, and other similar communities, was unification of the resource users and the communities dependent upon the revenues generated by the resources. We set about to bring people together through education about our existing rights both regarding land use and the proper function of a tiered government, as was structured under the US Constitution and prior and subsequent legislated acts.
As we set about this task of bringing people together to relate their experiences and learn more about their rights we ran smack dab into the specter of intimidation at all levels. We would talk to ranchers and loggers who hated the management of the Feds on their allotments, timber sales and private lands. However, it was rare to find one that would defy the fear of retribution against them and their operations by the agencies for speaking up.
Commonly their ranches are dependent upon grazing allotments, government land leases, and access to water. Most of the loggers are heavily dependent upon Federal timber sales for their livelihoods. Without these Federally controlled resources their operations become uneconomic. As a result, the resource users were immediately fragmented into at least two groups, those who would stand up and speak up and those who would not for fear of retribution. In the Federal workplace they passed laws called “whistleblower” laws. No such protection is afforded those private sector operators who know of or operate under abusive or corrupt conditions in their dealing with Federally managed resources.
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Discussion; No one individual can afford the cost in dollars, time and energy to take on the policies of the Federal government. Thus our dedicated group in Harney County, Oregon was nearly thwarted in our local efforts to help through education and unification. At that time of realization we began to see opportunities to join with others across the West whose realization was the same as ours.
In order to educate we helped form a broad spectrum group called the Range Rights and Resource Symposium(3RS). Out of this, we became loosely affiliated with Protect the Harvest and a new offshoot organization in the 11 western states named the Range Allotment Owners Association and a local land use group called Rural Advocacy Watch (RAW). The goal and mandate of this work was to work with and supplement the older and more established land rights and agricultural support groups such as the Cattlemens’ Associations, American Land Rights Association, American Lands Council, associated rural counties and state legislatures etc. We continue the process today.
Conclusion: We recognized that unity cannot be accomplished if there are turf wars and fragmented competition for funding for individual legal cases. The attack must be unified and directed at the larger issues of bad policy, unconstitutional regulation and Federal jurisdiction and management of resource lands. We saw that unending legal battles between individuals and the Feds can go on for decades and will eventually break even the hardiest of souls. There is no end to the money and time the Feds can throw at a victim of their overreach.
The bottom line is that we believe that a sustained two pronged approach has to move forward: 1) educate individuals on their existing land and resource use rights so they may be sufficiently confident in their position
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to unify with others and take on errant policy in force; and 2) educate resource users and their support communities that transfer of “public” land management to States and Counties is both doable and beneficial for all concerned.
Tim K. Smith is a Harney County Oregon rancher, minerals geologist, and chairman of the Harney County Committee of Safety
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We saw that unending legal battles between individuals and the Feds can go on for decades and will eventually break even the hardiest of souls. There is no end to the money and time the Feds can throw at a victim of their overreach.
NOT without funding.
how to get the BLM to back off, by getting its funding slashed ?
maybe by the new cowboy taking office ?
as long as they have the funding, there is no end in sight.
it is our tax dollars that fund this over-funded, over-reaching agency.
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KrisAnneHall and her husband discuss Jeanette Finicum's continued problems with the Bureau of Land Management
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January 4, 2017 By KrisAnne Hall Leave a Comment
Broadcasting from Haiti I’m joined by my husband JC Hall and together we discuss the on going problems the Finnicum family is having with the BLM along with Trump and the challenges he is facing.
Direct link to audio:
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John Lamb will have a video report on today's court, Jan. 6
LaVoy exposing legislative betrayal a few days before his assassination
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Gary Hunt, Outpost of Freedom, with new information on informant William "Will" Kullman
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Gary Hunt
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December 30, 2016
I have been contacted by a number of people who were contacted by Kullman, after the “Burns Chronicles No 51 – William “Will” Kullman (Night Hawk)“went out. His line to them is that I (Hunt) am a BATF agent. Heck, that accusation goes back to 1993, and in all of that time, nobody has been able to provide any substance to that accusation. That just shows how cheap talk is.
I have also been provided a copy of a text conversation from back in September, about the time the Portland Trial, Ammon Bundy, et al, began. So, we will begin with that text conversation. I have indicated Kullman’s comments with K and the other participant as S. This discussion took place before and during the trial that began on September 7, 2016.
SEP 4 AT 10:08
PMK: I’m going to Portland for the Bundy trials. Will you be thereSEP 21 AT 5:46 PM
S: Dude… People are freaking out your like McConnell… is this true?
K: Excuse me?
S: Ya. Everyone is telling me you were buddy buddy with him and you mysteriously left last week after they showed your picture. I’m not saying it that’s not me… it paranoia all over again… someone said you are testifying for the prosecution. Blah blah blah… figured you would want to know
K: First and foremost before the Bundys before the trials before any of this Mark and I Marine brothers just like John Ritzheimer and our bond is before everything else. Period. I have no idea what you mean by showing my picture I left on Thursday afternoon because I had trial myself here in Washington Friday morning for my son in custody. I’m not testifying for anybody and I risked a lot going to the courthouse, and because I was in Portland for a week and didn’t see my son before my trial I end up losing custody of my son so I sacrificed to be there don’t lump me in with Jason Blomgren just because he squealed like a pig.
Note that he mentions Ritzheimer, claiming that their “bond is before everything else.” This was brought up in ” Burns Chronicles No 51 – William “Will” Kullman (Night Hawk)“, when Kullman told Peltier to tell Ritzheimer, “Semper Fi!”
Now, we will jump to the end of the next discussion, which took place on Facebook. The initial discussion began on the day that LaVoy Finicum was murdered, January 26, and concluded on the next day. The conversation picks up again on December 28, 2016. It is this last portion that we will begin with. This is the day that the first Kullman article was published.
8:23 pm [December 28, 2016]
Friend: Not sure what is going on but you are being tagged in the Patriot community as an informant against the refuge guys. Outpost of Freedom has evidence and has written an article against you. What the hell is going on? I trusted you
8:37 pm
Kullman: I’m not sure. I was just told of it. And haven’t finished reading the article myselfI don’t know how they would come to that conclusion, I’m one of the biggest patriots in this state and make it known because I’m proud of who I am.
8:39 pm
Friend: I’ve been hit up by the armchair warriors stalking my page that keep pming me telling me how terrible I am that we are “friends” on fb…but I can’t find your name on my list. Strange. Gary Hunt called you for your input but you hung up on him. What the hell is going on?
8:41 pm
Kullman: Only 2 things in the article I’ve read so far are true. Me telling Maureen I wanted to come help, and that I hung up on him cause he’s a known ATF agent.And as far as Robert Hart, this character I turned into the Feds for wanting to kill cops, I didn’t tell the Feds that. I told the Bundy’s, Payne, Patrick and Ritz about that guy.
8:42 pm
Friend: Hunt is a known ATF agent? What? Bullshit!
8:43 pm
Kullman: He mentions me in another one of his articles but what is written isn’t even true about me. He says I brought night vision and a 300 win mag to the refuge but I’ve never owned any of those things. I brought my AR and my pistol.You can look all over the internet and find articles wherever the patriot community has come into play, Gary hunt is there
8:45 pm
Friend: Of course he’s there. He’s a Patriot journalist. Why would he write crap about you if it weren’t true?
8:48 pm
Kullman: Idk. I’m getting all sorts of messages and stuff. Not sure what to think about this.
8:50 pm
Friend: I’ve known Gary since Sky was arrested and he seems as if he doesn’t like to publish anything unless he has proof of what he’s writing…I would like to see proof of his accusation if I were you. If it’s not true, I would demand proof.
8:51 pm
Kullman: My only worry is if I do it, he will twist my words.
8:52 pm
Friend: That’s why you document everything in writing…your words can’t be twisted without proof that the words are being twisted if it’s in writing.
8:52 pm
Kullman: I’m gonna try and absorb this. Appreciate you writing me.
8:53 pm
Friend: Why? If these accusations are untrue, I’d be pissed and I would get on his page and ask for proof in the comment section of the article.
8:54 pm
Kullman: Appreciate you writing me. Don’t write to me again.
I didn’t realize that Kullman had already turned “Robert Hart” in to the feds. I can see no reason, whatsoever, that a person would turn a patriot over to the feds for what he said. That decision should be something to be decided by than more than one individual, and should be made by people that might be affected by whatever Hart said or did. If all else failed, then, their decision might be to turn Hart over to the feds. For a sole person to make such a decision could, as easily, be to an attempt to garner favor (or money) from the feds, as much as anything else.
It is also clear that Kullman wants to discredit the information contained in the article by trying to discredit the author (me), instead of discrediting the content of the article. However, the “Friend” knows me, well.
I want to provide the opportunity to someone that I am exposing as an informant to have his say. To do so, I endeavor to give that person the opportunity to provide something that would prove that I am wrong in my deductions. If I have a phone number, I call that person to give him such an opportunity. In this instance, I called, and it went to voicemail. Within just a few seconds, insufficient time for Kullman to have listened to the message, I received a phone call from Kullman. If you listen closely, you can hear the click after I say “events”. That is when Kullman hung up his phone.
Understand that I do record the calls that I make under these circumstances. First, to confirm that the call was made. Second, to make sure that if they make any comments, or provide information that contradicts what I have written, that I can be precise in what I write in any follow-up on the article.
Regarding Kullman’s communication with the “Friend”, we can now go back to what occurred on January 26, 2016. That was the day that LaVoy Finicum was murdered by the Oregon State Police, and in which the FBI has yet to conclude its “investigation” into the role that their agents played in those few minutes that were the last of LaVoy’s life. The communication, on FB, begins just about 5 1/2 hours after the shooting.
1/26, 10:02 pm
Kullman: [Friend], I was at Schuyler’s case back in December, don’t know if you remember me. I have been at the refuge in Oregon with Jason Patrick and the Bundys (god help us all for what happened today) but I was wondering when Schuyler’s next court date was so I could be there now that I am home.
1/26, 10:05 pm
Friend: May 2 is the trial date and we don’t know when the Motion hearings will be.
1/26, 10:05 pm
Kullman: Ok perfect. What’s the plan?
1/26, 10:05 pm
Friend: For OR or the Sky’s court?
1/26, 10:07 pm
Kullman: Both? I know we don’t know each other that well, but I was in Oregon as a leader of the Militia down there. As well as PSD for the Bundys. I just want to know what else I can do here with you for Schuyler and Oregon if there is anything else we can do…I know Schuyler protected you. He is my Brother, and Fellow Marine. If there is anything you need as far as security, let me know. I need details of everything.
1/26, 10:13 pm
Friend: I cannot talk about any plans on fb but the feds do not know the powder keg they just opened. The fuse has been lit and it could be bloody on both sides. Thank you for the offer. Schuyler is our boy and what the feds did to set him up is wrong on so many levels. Now they are trying to go after my wife. She has an attorney but the feds want to charge her for bogus crap concerning Sky.
1/26, 10:15 pm
Kullman: Any other way we can communicate. I know the PPN was there before when I was there, but, I have teams here in Western Washington that are ready to go. I just want the best clarification as possible.
I am so sorry they are going after [Friend’s wife]. She is a GOOD woman. I enjoyed our interaction at the Wandering Goose when we went there for lunch.
Not sure if you still have my contact info, but email me or call me anytime you need ANYTHING. 4253197669wrkilla89@gmail.com
1/26, 10:19 pm
Friend: PPN was told to stand down but the folks at the refuge are begging for more manpower. It is my understanding that people are gearing up and going down there.
1/26, 10:20 pm
Kullman: PPN was told to stand down AT the refuge but they maintained an outer perimeter in burns for us. As far as people going down, more people are just talking then actually acting. I was planning on heading back down tomorrow until I heard about Lavoy, god rest his soul, but now I need to stay and try and organize as many men as I can to go and fight. A broken arrow message has been sent to every able bodied man that can take up arms and fight to come to Oregon. Let me know when you’re coming down so we can set up a meet.
1/26, 10:22 pm
Kullman: Once we leave Malheur, we will move on to other refuges that are illegally controlled by our corrupt government. We will push and push. I know you have a group of guys that are ready to fight. I want in. There is a refuge on your side of the state. We can take it.
1/26, 10:25 pm
Friend: I want to go down to OR but the wife is court ordered not to leave the state and I’m not going to leave her alone.
1/26, 10:26 pm
Kullman: Absolutely not, you will not leave her! How many guys you got going? (roughly, please don’t give me an exact number) I have “5” guys who are gonna gear up with me.
1/26, 10:27 pm
Friend: I don’t have any guys going down. We are Sheepdogs, not militia.
1/26, 10:27 pm
Kullman: I’ll assume smaller but awesome!The problem with the west side of the state, is it not as organized here as it is where you’re at.
I’m assuming you know that.
So it’s hard to get people together.
1/26, 10:28 pm
Friend: We have about 2400 members in our group and that is a rough figure but like I said, we aren’t militia. We are Sheepdogs.
1/26, 10:29 pm
Kullman: Are you friends with Steve McLaughlin?
1/26, 10:30 pm
Friend: Not sure, why?
1/26, 10:31 pm
Kullman: Oh, he’s the rancher from eastern Washington and the president of Liberty Watch Washington. He’s a good man
1/26, 10:32 pm
Kullman: I met him at the rally in Olympia last week. He spoke of OR and Schuyler. He’s the rancher with problems. I’ll join you guys when you take over the refuge on the eastern side.
1/26, 10:32 pm
Friend: Interesting. Schuyler never mentioned him. We aren’t taking over anything.
1/26, 10:32 pm
Kullman: Steve McLaughlinHe spoke of Schuyler briefly in reference to our rights being taken from us, and people being punished unjustly. Like Schuyler. He didn’t say he knew him personally.
1/26, 11:05 pm
Friend: Copy that. I will contact Steve and see what he wishes folks to do.Is he the one that is a Reardon Police Officer? What is his fb link?
1/26, 11:08 pm
Kullman: No, he is retired Navy I think.
1/26, 11:17 pm
Kullman: Just got off the phone with a person who was with the people that were arrested and he was released. Told me what happened to everyone including Payne and Lavoy.
1/26, 11:18 pm
Friend: How was he released?Ammon was on the phone with Carol giving her a play by play as the whole thing unfolded. She recorded it. Wonder if that person who was released has the same story.Who is this person?
1/26, 11:22 pm
Kullman: Mark McConnell. He drove the jeep
1/26, 11:22 pm
Friend: What did he tell you? Something smells off about this guy. Why was he released?
1/26, 11:25 pm
Kullman: He said that him and Payne and the other vehicle got pulled over. That as soon as Payne and him were pulled out of the truck, Lavoy took off. Crashed the truck into a snow bank and then when they Leo got to the truck, he advanced on the Leo. Apparently telling them to shoot him, and he kept advancing so they did.
1/26, 11:25 pm
Kullman: He said that they grilled him for about two hours and couldn’t get anything on him but trespassing because he wasn’t there when they took the refugeApparently him and some 18 year old girlGot off with being in the “wrong place at the wrong time”
1/26, 11:26 pm
Friend: That is not what Ammon was telling Carol. The video shows LaVoy being shot in the back.Something is off…
1/26, 11:27 pm
Kullman: Mark wasn’t there when Lavoy was shot, he said that’s what he was told.I don’t think mark would lie, I think mark May have been told something else.
1/26, 11:27 pm
Friend: I agree.
1/26, 11:27 pm
Kullman: Because I don’t believe for a second Lavoy would advance on LeoMark is a good man. I think he was just fed some bullshit to try and spill the beans but he didn’t
1/26, 11:28 pm
Friend: If Mark was driving the jeep when they got pulled over, how was he not there when Lavoy was shot and why was he released?
1/26, 11:28 pm
Kullman: Because LaVoy sped off in the other vehicle
1/26, 11:29 pm
Friend: I got that part. But why was he released when he was the one driving the jeep?
1/26, 11:29 pm
Kullman: With Ammon, Shawna, and the 18 year oldAgain, I think mark was just fed some shit to try and get him to spill the beans on anything but he didn’t budge. Now he’s stranded in burns over night with no shelter. They won’t release his jeep for 24 hours
1/26, 11:32 pm
Friend: I still don’t understand. How can he be getting his jeep back? Something’s wrong here. Me thinks it’s a set up and whoever goes down there will either be killed or set up, too.
1/26, 11:33 pm
Kullman: I’ll be there by their side.
Kullman: I need to sleep. Calm my mind down. Stay frosty.
1/26, 11:33 pm
Friend: Watch your six….
1/26, 11:33 pm
Kullman: Always
1/26, 11:33 pm
Friend: AmenSchuyler is on lock down. They took him to solitary.
1/26, 11:35 pm
Kullman: What the hell for?!?!
1/26, 11:35 pm
Friend: Don’t know. That is all that was said.
1/26, 11:36 pm
Kullman: This is getting outrageousWe need to get him the hell out of there, but solitary!?!? Are you breaking him out?
1/26, 11:37 pm
Friend: They had him in solitary the first week he was there then moved him to population. Now he is back. No, I’m not breaking him out.
1/26, 11:37 pm
Kullman: Wooooooow. That’s absurd in my opinion
1/26, 11:38 pm
Friend: Why? I’m not going on a suicide mission to break him out. I know the feds are scared but…
1/26, 11:48 pm
Kullman: They should be.
1/26, 11:52 pm
Friend: I’m not sure what to do or think at this point.
1/26, 11:53 pm
Kullman: With more support coming from others in the state we should be able to break him out.
1/26, 11:53 pm
Friend: It’s a bad idea all around and I know Sky won’t want it. He wants to take this to the Supreme Court and he can’t do that on the run doing stupid shit.
You can see how often Kullman tries to bait Friend by asking him his plans or encouraging certain activities. This is well beyond what any reasonable person would answer, especially on FB and with someone that you didn’t know. But, apparently, Kullman’s desperation to increase his worth to the FBI led him to try, desperately, to get the Friend, a real friend to Schuyler Barbeau, to talk about plans for both Schuyler’s role (which the FBI knew about from intelligence in December 2015) and what might happen in Burns. However, much of his story is contrived. Let’s look at what he claims about his knowledge, acquired from Mark McConnell, at a time that he could not even have had the opportunity to talk with McConnell.
I interviewed McConnell on January 30, just four days after the shooting. He was not aware of any shots being fired at Ryan Payne, by his own observation. Later when Payne was brought down to where McConnell was, Payne did say, after he joined McConnell, Ammon Bundy, and Brian “Booda” Cavalier, that he had been shot AT, but not hit. Therefore, McConnell knew that Payne had not been shot. He also told me that he wasn’t released until 11:00 or 11:30 pm, fully an hour after Kullman claims to have spoken with McConnell.
Now, rumor had it that “Ryan” had been shot. There was speculation as to which Ryan, and at first, I had assumed Payne. However, McConnell said that when he was being transported to the rest area where they all met and the two parties were separated, one to Portland, and McConnell and Victoria Sharp back to Burns, he knew that Ryan Bundy was in an ambulance that made a short stop at the Harney District Hospital.
The next available discussion, the following day, January 27:
1/27, 12:37 pm
Kullman: Where is your group going to stage? We can’t get an answer from Max Fairchild and I got my phone blowing up from guys on the west side looking for answers and need to send them somewhere.Any information on where I can send them beside the refuge let me know.
1/27, 2:02 pm
Friend: There are some Sheepdogs down there but I’m not going. I’m not leaving my wife. Have them go to the town of Burns and go to one of the Motels. There they will find one or two Patriots with intel. Everything else I cannot put on fb
1/27, 2:04 pm
Kullman: Email? Wrkilla89@gmail.com
1/27, 2:04 pm
Friend: wickr is xxxxxxxx. Email is not secure
1/27, 2:07 pm
Kullman: Mine is KullmanCombat
1/27, 2:12 pm
Friend: I wickred you.
1/27, 2:16 pm
Kullman: Re send transmission
1/27, 2:22 pm
Friend: Done
1/27, 3:31 pmFriend: No details on fb.
1/27, 3:32 pm
Kullman: No I meant message me on wickr
Comtinued
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Gary Hunt - continued:
Kullman persists, trying to get Friend to go to email or Wickr. Apparently, he assumes that if he can imply a greater degree of security to the communications, Friend will open up and give him what he seeks, though it really did not even exist.
It appears that Kullman has, unwittingly, given us a picture of some of the tactics of an informant.
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RangeFire - It is going to happen. The Meeting with LaVoy Finicum that Never Happened . . . .
http://rangefire.us/2017/01/04/the-m...ever-happened/
The Meeting with LaVoy Finicum that Never Happened . . . .
January 4, 2017 - Government/Politics, Oregon Standoff - Tagged: Finicum, John Day, LaVoy, Meeting, Oregon, Rancher, Range, RANGEfire, Standoff - no comments
It’s going to happen. Unfortunately, LaVoy won’t be there, but one year later, the previously intended meeting is going to happen.
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Background: According to an upcoming article in Range magazine, on January 26, 2016, while traveling with others from the lawful occupation at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Harney County, Oregon to a public meeting with the Grant County Sheriff in John Day, Oregon, LaVoy Finicum was shot and killed by law enforcement, Ryan Bundy ended up with bullet shrapnel in his shoulder, and the other occupants of LaVoy’s vehicle ended up thoroughly terrorized.
At this point we know that there were no arrest warrants, indictments, or probable cause for the stop. The other occupants of the vehicle were tried and acquitted of federal charges stemming from their actions at the Refuge.
We also know that there is an ongoing investigation into an obvious cover-up by the FBI about its role in the fatal stop, including alleged efforts to escalate a full-fledged confrontation intended to result in a shoot-out that would produce even more casualties. In addition to LaVoy’s bullet-riddled pick-up truck, there is mounting evidence of an FBI plot to stage a provoked shoot-out intended to escalate into an even bigger massacre.
In commemoration of the one-year anniversary of LaVoy’s death and the meeting in John Day that never happened, on Saturday, January 28, 2017, the Finicum family will be sponsoring “The Meeting with LaVoy that Never Happened” at the Grant County Fairgrounds in John Day, Oregon.
The event will be from 4:30 – 10:30 PST. There is a great line-up of speakers, including Bill Norton from the Center for Self-Government, Constitutional Attorney, KrisAnne Hall, Rural Radio Guru, Trent Loos, Patriot Attorney, Morgan Philpot, Radio Personality, Kate Dalley, and champion of liberty, Garrett Smith.
For more information and/or to register for the event, CLICK HERE.
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Kelli Stewart Jan. 6 , Ammon Bundy Attorney Mumford/Malheur hearing
http://youtu.be/EtMOQO3r5b0
https://youtu.be/EtMOQO3r5b0
Kelli Stewart with a report from the Portland, Oregon kangaroo court proceedings for today
http://youtu.be/CJmrzn3yOts
https://youtu.be/CJmrzn3yOts
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John Lamb and Shawna Cox Portland, Oregon Mumford/Malheur Jan. 6,hearingl.
http://youtu.be/rSnwWzq-qys
https://youtu.be/rSnwWzq-qys
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The US Federal District Of Oregon has launched an assault on freedom of the press.
The FBI visited Gary Hunt, Outpost of Freedom. The reason for the vist was to deliver a cease an desist letter from Oregon District United States Attorney Billy J. Williams. Two of documents linked at the of article are no longer available on the server.
Statement by Gary Hunt, Outpost of Freedom, with regard the Freedom of the Press
January 6, 2017, 7:57 pm
Statement by Gary Hunt, Outpost of Freedom, with regard to the government attempting to silence the Freedom of the Press
Gary Hunt,
Outpost of Freedom
January 6, 2017
Rumor has it that I was visited by the FBI, yesterday, January 5, 2017. That rumor is true It was not and investigation or an interview. Instead, it was to hand me a letter from the Portland, Oregon, United States Attorney’s Office, sign by Pamela R. Holsinger, Chief, Criminal Division, on behalf of Billy J. Williams. That letter was a Cease and Desist letter.
Today, I told the FBI messenger that I had no intention of complying; that I wanted to look into my legal rights. A few hours later, I was informed by two sources that the government has filed An affidavit, and request for a court order, and a proposed order wherein they order me to remove my articles with discovery information in them, and refrain from publishing any more discovery information.
This is fast becoming a matter of the First Amendment right of the people to know what their government is doing. This same subject went before the United States Supreme Court, in 1971. That case was “New York Times Co. V. United States 403 U.S. 713”, wherein the Court, in defending the public right to know, stated:“
Our Government was launched in 1789 with the adoption of the Constitution. The Bill of Rights, including the First Amendment, followed in 1791. Now, for the first time in the 182 years since the founding of the Republic, the federal courts are asked to hold that the First Amendment does not mean what it says, but rather means that the Government can halt the publication of current news of vital importance to the people of this country.”
The New York Times prevailed and the government could not restrain the Times from publishing the Pentagon Papers. The matter before us, now, is equally, or more important in that the right of the people to know how their operates in their private lives, with “spies” reporting everything that they can about what you do, with no criminal intent, to the government.
This is what the KGB did in the Soviet Union. It is what the Stasi did in East Germany. Neither country exists, now, as the police state was not compatible with people used to kings and emperors. It is absolutely unacceptable in a country of free and liberty loving people.
If exposing government spies that spy on the people is criminal, then I confess to that crime. If, however, We, the People, have a right to know what our government is doing, then the Court on Oregon is criminal.
The following documents are the letter and the three filings in the Ammon Bundy, et al, case in Oregon.
Cease and Desist
LetterMotion to Enforce Protective Order – (Expedited Consideration
Requested)Affidavit of FBI Special Agent Ronnie Walker in Support of Motion to Enforce Protective Order[Proposed] Order Enforcing Protective Order
http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/do...ht-by-feds,pdf
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- http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6c63656...=109&d=mm&r=pgMicahla Vaccaro says:
January 6, 2017 at 11:54 pm
What about FOIA? THAT says it all there. Have you contacted Jay Sekulow? Not sure if I spelled his last name right.
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- http://outpost-of-freedom.com/blog/w...2220-48x48.jpgghunt says:
January 7, 2017 at 7:54 am
Such information as I have obtained is not subject to FOIA (Freedom of Information Act). The ‘secret’ information on the Branch Davidian assault has come out through FOIA, slowly, over twenty years. Some has still not been obtained, and there were no informants. The agent that got into the Church admitted his role, publicly, early one.
The information I have obtained could only be acquired by covert means, just like the Pentagon Papers, over four decades ago.
It does little good to find out what your government did many years ago, because what they will do in the intervening years will be devastating, if they get away with it.
This battle will be fought in front of the People.
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- [URGENT] LIBERTY OF THE PRESS UNDER ATTACK: The Federal Government is Attempting to Silence a Journalist • FPRN Radio says:
January 7, 2017 at 12:04 am
[…] said, these documents are hyperlinked in Hunt’s own statement, as well as below (the dates follow a yy/mm/dd […]
Reply to this comment - http://2.gravatar.com/avatar/ec97566...=109&d=mm&r=pgVicky Davis says:
January 7, 2017 at 1:12 am
On December 7, 2016, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform held a hearing titled: Examining the Costs of Over-classification on Transparency and Security. Representative Stephen Lynch questioned the witness concerning the number of Confidential Informants (CIs) employed by the DEA and the FBI and complained about his inability to get any information about the programs from these agencies. What he has been able to find out is that the DEA has approximately 18,000 CIs and it’s costing the taxpayers $237 million per year. The FBI has probably double that number – between 30-40,000 CIs costing the taxpayers probably around $500 million per year.
He can’t get any information about these programs and the crimes committed by the CIs because they are “field level” programs.
Representative Lynch should be interested in your information and this attempt by the Justice Dept. to shut you up.
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- http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0ae9dc7...=109&d=mm&r=pgPaul Niblock says:
January 7, 2017 at 6:52 am
To whom it may concern:
Regarding the possession and/or dissemination of documents by Gary Hunt. Myself, as well as many others have a vested and intense interest in the exposing and disseminating of the truth, regardless of the Courts belief in the necessity for secrecy in a case where a jury has found the vindicated ‘ring-leaders’ “not guilty”. Removal of documents published in accordance with the First Amendment protected Right of this website will not remove them from the public domain, nor will such action reflect positively regarding the Federal governments dedication to it’s obligation to protect that Right.
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Teresa Brookshire has a comment regafding the fed's latest action against Gary Hunt. I can not believe this is the country I grew up in. Facebook hasn't blocked the post from Outpost of Freedom - - YET.
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The vendetta by the Oregon US District Court to silence the independent media continues. Peter T. Santilli, charges dropped, Michael Ray Emry jailed in Eugene, Oregon, Thomas Lacovara-Stewart jailed in Eugene, Oregon, Gary Hunt,
Admiralty law and the Vicar-General (Catholic Church). Ryan Bundy filed documents to related to the Vatican . .
Vicky Davis TVOI News wrote the following piece on Tom Lacavara Republic Broadcasting.org accused of being a felon in possession of a firearm at the refug was evicted from Malhuer Reserve last January. He was arrested Dec. 7 and is jailed in Oregon. https://www.facebook.com/WithChastit...59926810996991
The woman Laurie that Vicky refers to is youtuber Lorri Anderson https://m.youtube.com/user/Dancingwind1970
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The woman on Tom’s program last night, Laurie “Texas 101” spent quite a bit of time talking about Admiralty Law and the Catholic Church. It seems that the Oregon District court is updating their Local Rules of Admiralty Procedure. They are seeking public comment.Laurie also talked about approaching the Vicar-General (Catholic Church) for assistance in Tom’s case. She talked about a lot of things I’ve never heard before but as I’ve had time to think about things, what she says makes sense if you take your thinking back to the time when the only law was monarchs and church leaders – the Pope in particular. I don’t spend a whole lot of time in church, but there is one “feature” that stuck in my mind in the several cathedrals I’ve visited both here in the U.S. and in Europe.
http://tvoinews.net/corruption/slave...other-tidbits/
HOME CORRUPTION TOM LACOVARA, SLAVE LAW AND OTHER TIDBITS
Posted By: Vicky Davison: January 04, 2017In: Corruption, Featured Tags: Admiralty Law, Oregon District Court, RTR, Tom Lacovara1 Comment
Last night I did something I rarely do anymore. I listened to Republic Broadcasting Org, the Resurrect the Republic radio program normally hosted by Tom Lacovara-Stewart. As I learned, Tom wasn’t there because he is in jail in Lane County, Oregon. Presumably that means the Lane County Adult Corrections facility – same place Michael Emry is being held.
Tom was arrested in New Jersey and was brought back to Oregon. The arrest warrant indicates that the charge is felon in possession of a gun. The warrant was signed on September 21, 2016. Tom was arrested on December 7, 2016 and the warrant was returned to the court on December 30, 2016.
Interestingly, the same cast of characters are involved in Tom’s arrest as were involved in Michael’s case. Magistrate Judge Thomas Coffin signed the arrest warrant. The case was assigned to Judge Anna Aiken and then was referred to Magistrate Judge Jolie Russo. The Prosecutor is Nicolas Lichvarcik
Tom was in Burns, Oregon during the occupation of Malheur but he was there as media – same as Michael. There were a lot of informants but it doesn’t seem kosher for Tom to be arrested nearly a year later and while he was in New Jersey. The indictment came from a grand jury so there is no information on where they got the information that Tom had a gun (if he had a gun).
There is something curious about Tom’s case besides stretch of the Oregon prosecutor. On the indictment, the charge is listed as
Count 1: Felon in Possession of a Firearm:
18 U.S.C § 922(g)(1)
Forfeiture:
18 U.S.C. § 924(d)
28 U.S.C. § 2461(c)
The woman on Tom’s program last night, Laurie “Texas 101” spent quite a bit of time talking about Admiralty Law and the Catholic Church. It seems that the Oregon District court is updating their Local Rules of Admiralty Procedure. They are seeking public comment.
Laurie also talked about approaching the Vicar-General (Catholic Church) for assistance in Tom’s case. She talked about a lot of things I’ve never heard before but as I’ve had time to think about things, what she says makes sense if you take your thinking back to the time when the only law was monarchs and church leaders – the Pope in particular. I don’t spend a whole lot of time in church, but there is one “feature” that stuck in my mind in the several cathedrals I’ve visited both here in the U.S. and in Europe.
https://i2.wp.com/tvoinews.net/wp-co...?fit=743%2C420
The barrier between the pulpit and the people could be called a bar. Someone told me one time that the Bar Association was so named because in the old British courts, the advocate and prosecutor stepped up to a bar to be heard by the magistrate. I don’t know if that’s true but I suspect that it is true.
When I was looking for an image of an old British court – which I didn’t find one that I wanted to use, I found a graphic of the structure of the British Court System.
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When I looked up the British Supreme Court, I found that it was created in 2009 but, the court has a badge and badges date back to the establishment of the Worshipful Companies. Livery Companies are patent holders on a trade or profession.
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Because of the reference to the Crown on the organization of the British Court System, I did a search to find out how the system was organized before 2009. Before it was called the Supreme Court, it was called the Appellate Committee of the House of Lords.
The House of Lords, in addition to having a legislative function, historically also had a judicial function. It functioned as a court of first instance for the trials of peers, for impeachment cases, and as a court of last resort within the United Kingdom. In the latter case the House’s jurisdiction was essentially limited to the hearing of appeals from the lower courts. Appeals were technically not to the House of Lords, but rather to the Queen-in-Parliament. By constitutional convention, only those lords who were legally qualified (Lords of Appeal in Ordinary, or Law Lords) heard the appeals, since World War II usually in what was known as the Appellate Committee of the House of Lords[1][2] rather than in the chamber of the House.
During the 20th and early 21st centuries, the judicial functions were gradually removed. The final trial of a peer in the House of Lords was in 1935, and in 1948, the use of special courts for trials of peers was abolished. In 2009 the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom assumed the functions as the new court of final appeal in the UK. Wikipedia
The significance of the appeal going to the Queen again goes back to the Livery Companies – in particular the Mercers – or as I like to call them, the Whores of Babylon.
The British Monarch holds the title ‘Defender of the Faith and Supreme Governor of the Church of
England. And that’s the link between church and law.
The Mercers’ Livery Company is the oldest livery company with history dating back to the 12th century. The trade of mercery comes from “the Latin term “merx” which means merchandise”.
“The Company is also patron of a number of benefices in the Church of England (i.e. it has the right to appoint the vicar or rector of a parish) and maintains close links with its affiliated units in the United Kingdom’s Armed Services.
“The Company and its associated charitable trusts, makes substantial grants to support education, general welfare, church and faith and arts and heritage. A network of alms houses and other homes for the elderly are also managed by the charitable trusts associated with the Company. The Company is closely involved with the running of 17 schools across the country and supports them primarily through the appointment of governors.
Getting back to Tom Lacovara and Laurie (Texas 101) and Admiralty Law which she spoke quite a lot about in the context of the church. It occurred to me that the idea that people have been declared dead at sea – redefined as property under the 14th Amendment makes sense in terms of Admiralty Law and the slave trade. Consider this – the captain of ship is law unto himself – God so to speak. Africans captured as human beings and placed onto a ship could be declared dead as humans and redefined as cargo – property, a commodity for sale. It would make sense to do that at sea because there was no higher authority than the captain of a ship on the ocean. The 14th Amendment didn’t set the slaves free, it made us all slaves.
This is starting to make sense – why the 13th Amendment would have been buried, why the 14th Amendment was illegally passed and may very well be why Tom Lacovara is in jail – really.
http://youtu.be/mzYfmQvOuKg
http://youtu.be/UBejpmIx79o
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Vicky Davis, TVOI News
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Getting back to Tom Lacovara and Laurie (Texas 101) and Admiralty Law which she spoke quite a lot about in the context of the church. It occurred to me that the idea that people have been declared dead at sea – redefined as property under the 14th Amendment makes sense in terms of Admiralty Law and the slave trade. Consider this – the captain of ship is law unto himself – God so to speak. Africans captured as human beings and placed onto a ship could be declared dead as humans and redefined as cargo – property, a commodity for sale. It would make sense to do that at sea because there was no higher authority than the captain of a ship on the ocean. The 14th Amendment didn’t set the slaves free, it made us all slaves.
This is starting to make sense – why the 13th Amendment would have been buried, why the 14th Amendment was illegally passed and may very well be why Tom Lacovara is in jail – really.
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Maxine Bernstein - Oregonian on Prosecutors seek to silence Gary Hunt
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-sta...fornia_ma.html
http://image.oregonlive.com/home/oli...atars/4406.pngBy Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive
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on January 07, 2017 at 9:30 AM, updated January 07, 2017 at 3:17 PM
Prosecutors want California man to remove blog posts on FBI informants in refuge occupation case
As a second trial looms in the takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, federal prosecutors are perturbed that a California man associated with a network of militia groups obtained FBI reports on its confidential sources and has written about them in an online blog.
Prosecutors on Friday asked a judge to order Gary Hunt to immediately remove all material about the confidential sources from his website and prevent him from continuing to share the sensitive information.
The presence of nine informants on the eastern Oregon refuge during the 41-day occupation last winter as well as six other informants who worked on the case for the FBI was revealed during testimony during the first trial of occupation leaders.
Hunt, according to prosecutors, apparently got hold of the FBI reports on the informants that prosecutors gave to defense attorneys as part of their sharing of discovery evidence before trial. The court ordered the reports not be shared with others. Occupation leader Ammon Bundy and six others were acquitted of conspiracy and other charges after a five-week trial that ended Oct. 27.
"Public dissemination of the material produced under this Court's Protective Order could threaten ongoing investigations and the safety of government confidential human sources, informants or others," wrote Assistant U.S. Attorney Pamala Holsinger.
Hunt said that an FBI agent contacted him Thursday, handing him a cease-and-desist order signed by Holsinger, chief of the criminal division in the Oregon U.S. Attorney's Office.
FBI Special Agent Matthew Catalano reached Hunt by phone and requested a meeting. They met at a restaurant near Hunt's home after the agent assured Hunt he didn't have a warrant for his arrest, according to a court filing.
Hunt said the agent asked where he got the documents, wanted him to remove his blog posts and hand over the reports he had.
Hunt, who wasn't charged in the occupation, said the government doesn't have the authority to control his work because the court's protective order doesn't apply to him. The order restricted defendants in the case and their attorneys or defense staff from disseminating the material.
But prosecutors contend Hunt is "illegally in possession of protected sensitive discovery materials in this case" and not authorized to distribute them, according to their motion.
Hunt didn't comply with the cease-and-desist order within 24 hours, so prosecutors on Friday filed a request for the court to order his compliance.
"I don't think it has merit," Hunt said.
Hunt, 70, was a member of the advisory board for Operation Mutual Defense, a network of militias and supporters founded by Ryan Payne, one of the refuge occupation's organizers. The board was involved in early talks on how to help Harney County ranchers Dwight Hammond Jr. and son Steven Hammond, who were scheduled to return to federal prison on Jan. 4, 2016, for setting fire to public land. Bundy frequently cited protest over the Hammonds' treatment by the federal government as one of the reasons for seizing the refuge on Jan2.
The advisory board ultimately voted not to support any action in Burns without the Hammond family's invitation. But Hunt ended up visiting the refuge during the takeover. He went to Burns on Jan. 24, checked into the Silver Spur Motel and drove out to the refuge. On the evening of Jan. 26 after state police shot and killed occupation spokesman Robert "LaVoy" Finicum at a roadblock, Hunt put out a call for supporters to go to the refuge, but retracted it by the next day, he said.
Hunt, who lives in Northern California, has written stories under the heading "Burns Chronicles'' on his Outpost of Freedom website.
Hunt quotes from FBI reports on the agency's 15 informants during the occupation. The 130 reports, spanning 246 pages, were subject to a protective order, and each page contains the printed words, "Dissemination limited by court order,'' FBI agent Ronnie Walker wrote in an affidavit attached to the prosecutors' court filing.
The names of the confidential sources in the FBI reports shared with defense lawyers were redacted.
In one blog post, Hunt surmised that a fellow member of the Operation Mutual Defense's advisory board was an informant who provided the FBI details from the board meetings and access to the board's electronic folders containing various documents, Walker wrote in the affidavit.
Hunt said he has written about the informants because he believes that "every defendant has a right to meet his accusers'' to prepare their defense. He expects his blog posts might help the second round of defendants charged in the refuge takeover, who are set to go to trial on Feb. 14.
"If the government can get into my records, email and drop box accounts, why can't we look at their records?'' he said.
Hunt has not posted on his blog the FBI records, but has quoted excerpts from them.
In another blog post called, "Informants, What To Do About Them?'' Hunt wrote, "The matter of informants, and the government's efforts to protect the names of those who have snuck into our midst is a denial of justice and to some degree, the Sixth Amendment right "to be confronted with the witnesses against him."
Walker argued in the affidavit that the identification of informants could put them at risk, noting that some defendants and other people associated with the refuge occupation "have advocated for violence against federal employees, law enforcement, and and/or informants."
Walker cited comments from an unidentified person caught on a video found on defendant Jason Patrick's cellphone. They came during a group meeting at the refuge after Ammon Bundy's arrest. The person said to the group, " (Let's) regroup, get in, go find out who works for the Feds and start executing them. Execute them, their families, everyone. ... Make it a statement. If you work for those crooked (expletive) you're going to die."
U.S. District Judge Anna J. Brown, who presided over the initial Bundy trial and also is handlng the second trial in February, is expected to rule on the prosecutors' motion. Hunt said Friday he has not obtained a lawyer.
One positive development that may come of this, Hunt said, is that his personal standoff with the FBI may put to rest some speculation that Hunt was an informant for the feds.
-- Maxine Bernstein
mbernstein@oregonian.com
503-221-8212
@maxoregonian
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Brad Steffy at Oregon Wide Open recounts the killing of LaVoy Finicum
OwO added 17 new photos.
February 4, 2016 ·
The shooting sight of LaVoy Finicum.
WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES
Originally, I went to simply pay respects to LaVoy, pay tribute to a Man I respected and visit a memorial site which I had heard was just erected. It was a site that media first deemed a “shootout” Then, that he "charged them" and alas he was simply "going" for a gun when they shot him in the Face at close range.
I definitely wasn't expecting to see a complete illustration of the turn of events leading to his death. The tracks of the shooters hiding in the tree’s, the blood soaked snow, the shattered glass and the deep trench in the snow created by his truck when he avoided collision and took to the snow bank. I was shocked at what I saw and experienced.
I first went out Saturday morning, 4 days after the incident, spent a couple hours, paid my respects draped some American flags that I purchased in town and in the process met some great guys from Idaho who drove all night to do the same. They helped with supplies I was lacking and assisted with the Flag, then placed a Blue tarp, a Cowboy hat and a simple “RIP LaVoy Finicum, an American Hero” plackard made of cardboard and magic markers. I regret that I didn't get a photo of the Men I met but I believe there was some video that I'll try to locate of a special moment.
I was deeply moved but also deeply disturbed and couldn't quite process what all I’d observed right away. So I plotted a later trip at specifically the same time LaVoy met his fate and returned at 4:25 pm. that same evening.
Below are the photo’s and my observation (and opinions) of what happened. Forgive me for the interjection of my opinions, I typically stick with facts but I tried my best to let facts guide the opinions.
I recommend you load up the FBI video for reference as I did as well as Victoria Sharps radio testimony, it all starts making sense and coming together if you see the shooting sight, watch the piss poor video and hear the testimony.
I keep hearing the press telling it wrong and it annoys the hell out of me! A few minutes watching the video and looking at the scene brings it all together. Notice the road flares in the video warning them of the impending roadblock? Me either, because there WERE NONE! Why? Because they couldn’t get their kill that way (my Opinion) I couldn't present the photo's inline so they are each numbered at or near the top left corner albeit fairly small. They are sequentially in order after the first two of the memorial.
PHOTO 1 – ROADBLOCK ON A BLIND CORNER
The Yellow arrows indicate the point at which he could see the roadblock and started braking. As I surveyed the sight, questions started popping from the scene, the first of which was, why here? Why a roadblock on a blind turn knowing that if they come this far, they're likely at a high rate of speed. This caused suspicion. I watched the video again and noticed his brake lights came on as soon as he made the corner and they never went out until he came to a stop 40' from where he entered the snow bank.
He clearly was trying to stop and could not so he plowed into the snow bank rather than the trucks and bodies blocking his path.
This alone should be criminally prosecuted as it was a premeditated attempt at causing harm and placing 4 lives at risk. If we as civilians were to pull such a stunt we would likely be charged with aggravated assault or manslaughter assuming no one died. This alone, in my opinion, seemed egregious and unconscionable.
I made three test runs on the turn and tried to stop prior to the location of the roadblock. I could not stop at 75 mph short of the mark. Each time, anticipating the viewpoint I anchored the brakes. Each time I would have plowed right into the three vehicles blocking the road.
He covered the 1.25 miles in one minute if you watch the timer on the video. Given that he started from a stand still, he was moving when he approached that corner and roadblock. My estimates with elapsed time, distance, and starting from a stopped position, 85 MPH.
While stopped they had taken unprovoked gun fire and more when they decided to flee.
I'm in an aluminum bodied performance SUV and only myself in the vehicle where he was in a Heavy Duty Diesel Pick up with 3 passengers. So if I couldn't stop he certainly could not.
The SUICIDE BY COP narrative is completely debunked by this. If he wanted to die, he would have taken some LEO with him and accelerated right through the lot of them at the roadblock.
PHOTO 2 – SNOW BANK
Finicum, not being able to stop, instinctually did what most of us would do, alter course. If you’ve ever caught a tire in a snow bank you know it grabs you and sucks you in the second your tire hits the snow bank. You see his truck pitch quickly when it connects with the snow and he managed to avoid hitting everyone including the testosterone junkie that dove in front of his truck either to bail on the roadblock thinking he was going to be hit or a Macho” I’ll stop him with a pistol” move. We’re not sure but either way, when the FBI presser said he nearly hit an official with his truck it was a ridiculous statement. He tried to AVOID hitting them but they had the stage set perfectly so it couldn’t be avoided other than to take the snow bank.
There were talk of spike strips but none were seen in the video nor roadflares.
Another theory debunked was that he was trying to get through the snow drift and make a get away, those of you who know diesel trucks know you would have seen a plume of black smoke from him accelerating. Additionally, his brake lights were on the entire time once he saw the roadblock.
They simply left him no room to stop. Just beyond the turn is a mile long straightaway.
Why not there where it’s safe and could be seen. I thought maybe the County Line but it’s further down the road I believe. I’m sure Sheriff Ward wanted to be sure he had blood spilled in his County.
Sheriff Palmer of the adjoining county where they were headed was welcoming them with a group of 200 Ranchers and John Day residents who were anxious to hear how they could protect themselves against the brutality of the BLM.
PHOTO 3 – SHOOTER LOCATION
This was particularly disturbing to me and cooberates the ambush theory. I found 3 locations where operatives were posted up behind in the forest, out of sight. Perfectly strategic for an enemy combatant in a combat situation.
Finicum was a peaceful soul, had NO history of violence, had been openly speaking of his peaceful intent and was “armed up” with two church choir singers preparing to perform at their intended destination. In the entire period of time of the occupation and still currently, there has never been a weapon discharged by ANYONE at the refuge or in Harney County.
Media reports of a “shootout” were blatantly overstated and a lie. A shootout requires at least two members of an opposing force firing at one another, the FBI admits no one from the truck ever raised, handled, displayed or discharged a firearm whatsoever.
PHOTO 4 – WINDSHIELD GLASS
Witnesses Victoria Sharp and Shawna Cox stated that they took fire in the windshield while approaching the roadblock.
This starts looking a lot like a setup as they they forced them into a “hostile” situation. I know this is windshield glass because the Side windows and rear window were dark tinted. There were ample amounts of this relevant to the location of the truck where it stopped. Having owned Body shops, I can attest to the fact that windshield glass fractures in long thin shards due to the membrane where side window glass breaks in small cubes generally no bigger than a pencil eraser. (see photo 5 & 6)
PHOTO 5 – SIDE WINDOW TINTED GLASS
Note the tint and the small cubicle fractures. This glass was abundantly strewn all around the truck site in the snow. Interesting how we don’t SEE much of that activity on the video yet both Shawna and Victoria tell of hundreds of bullets riddling the truck and Ryan Bundy was shot in the shoulder. There is some evidence of bullets striking the passenger side of the truck late in the video (10:20 and 10:47) Why is this? What possible motive is there to fire rounds into a stopped vehicle with people inside who have exhibited no threatening behavior? This isn’t Mexico or Bolivia, a badge does not grant you authority and immunity in America. It places a considerable amount of responsibility on ones shoulders to have the fortitude to REFRAIN from actions like this in law enforcement. This CANNOT be allowed!
Photo 6 – MORE SIDE GLASS NEAR THE REAR OF THE TRUCK
The location of the glass strewn in the snow, most of it from the passenger side is consistent with eyewitness testimony as well. I doubt there was any glass left in that truck after the firing stopped. Shawna mentioned that after the three were all removed from the truck, they opened fire on it again. This is peculiar. I would only do that if I were planning on denying that shots were fired while they were in it to explain the massive amount of damage to the vehicle.
PHOTO 7 - 2ND SNIPER
The location of the second sniper hiding on the East side of the Roadblock. Notice all the branches removed, probably for a prop for his Long gun. This agent never shows up on the video. Doesn’t fit the narrative of a “ Routine Traffic Stop” Again, NO history of violence from ANYONE inside the truck. They had everyone surveilled for three weeks and knew also who was going to this meeting due to inside sources. They called for the Women to exit the truck at the first stop although it had dark tinted glass.
PHOTO 8 - 3RD SNIPER WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD
Across the road and directly across from the roadblock another agent hidden in the Forrest, lying in wait.
PHOTO 9 - PROXIMITY OF 3RD SNIPER
This photo simply illustrates the proximity of the 3rd Sniper to the other two. That’s an awful lot of firepower for a 55 year old Mormon ad his Choir ensemble.
PHOTO 10 - PAINTED MARKER ON THE HWY
I’m not sure what this indicates. It’s in the vicinity of the two vehicles in the front of the road block. Or could it indicate the placement of a shooter?
PHOTO 11 – DEADLY SHOOTERS TRACKS
This was a grizzly discovery for me, not quite as bad as the blood in the snow but it clearly follows the path of the shooter that killed Finicum via a close proximity shot to the face. It matches the video of the shooter where he advances, fires, takes lateral steps then retreats. The small trees are a reference point and the snowmobile tracks as well. It was very close to Finicum. He was close enough to easily discern whether there was eminent danger and if there was a visible fire arm which the FBI admitted there was not. Given the suspect, there should have been WAY more patience in waiting until you confirmed a firearm rather than the possibility of one.
The Expletive, Expletive, Expletive who left these tracks wasn’t quite sure what to do with himself after killing an innocent God loving Man so he walks in circles for a moment then runs toward the road. I hope He has a long life of horrific regrets ahead of him.
PHOTO 12 – WARNING GRAPHIC. LAST STEPS
I’m not sure why they would leave the remains there like this. It would seem respectful to at least cover, remove or bury them. Not visible in this frame is the blood from another region of his body. It was uncomfortable to document and intend no disrespect. The ensuing photo(s) will explain why I decided to document and post.
PHOTO 13 – WARNING GRAPHIC. OTHER BLOOD
Here is clear evidence of another wound in the region of hip, torso area. It’s impossible to say where specifically but it does add credence to the belief that he was shot in the lower or mid region before the lethal shot to the face. This would have caused his hands to drop naturally to the wound and would explain why he points at the agent behind the truck.
You can see the snow tamped down around where his body lie while they processed the scene. For the record, if you watch the video, notice the time that lapsed before they rendered aid to him. 10 MINUTES!
PHOTO 14 WARNING GRAPHIC SELF EXPLANATORY
PHOTO 15 WARNING GRAPHIC SELF EXPLANATORY
I became so enraged when I saw this, I had to wait some time before deciding to post.
In the end, I felt everyone deserved to see what I saw. This appeared to me as the last respects paid by one of the shooters. If you enlarge this image it is clearly chewing tobacco. Draw your own conclusion
It's worth noting that I have respected and appreciated Law enforcement my entire life. In recent years I've personally witnessed some things that challenge that commitment. There seems to be a changing tide of late, I really don't know if it's the media or reality but as these things go as with any profession there are good ones and bad ones. I still cling to the belief that the vast majority are good, maybe I'm naive, maybe it's just easier to exist that way. Whatever the case, i don't know if these were State, Federal or Mercenary law enforcement, I suspect a blend of all three but there is NOTHING good existing here in this camp.
This wreaks of purposeful, egregious, heinous, behavior from a pack of law dogs hungry for blood. It can be followed upstream to the the residing Judge and Sheriff of Harney County, to the Governor of Oregon, the BLM officials and all the way to the White House itself. The Hammonds were made an example of as was LaVoy Finicum. An example of what the extreme and mighty arm of bureaucracy is willing to go to to simply make a point. DON'T CHALLENGE THEM!
Be quiet, submissive and compliant and they'll feed you just enough to survive but never enough to thrive.
Dare to challenge them and they will take your rations for their own and crush you like the measly peasant you are.
I say thank God for Men like Lavoy Finnicum. Meek, kind, and caring but rock solid, firm and unyielding in his belief, a righteous belief.
This wasn't his fight. He didn't have to risk his life for his neighbor but he had conviction for what is right and what is wrong. That simple.
This injustice is simple to me. It is very clearly wrong. We all know it.
It doesn't matter what evidence "emerges" at this point. We know what it is. Plain and simple.
The question is, will we be quiet, submissive and compliant or will we use our voice and OUR collective might and begin to push back. We don't have enough weapons to take on the worlds super power nor do we need them. We have our founding documents. There may need to be skirmishes on occasion, I pray they are few and no blood is spilled but the simple fact is we all are going to die. The question is how do we want to live.
A question waiting to be answered.
A reminder that some of the photo's are Graphic in Nature. I would even say distasteful. I chose to post them because without them there is a part of this story that will never be told and it is after all, The Truth.
This is a new page I'm dedicating to simple Truth. The simple beauty of the great Northwest we live in, the truth about what's going on here and those who are threatening truth and simplicity with lies and corruption. Truth is always found in the simplest form and although the two can often seem elusive they are always right before our eyes if we only look.
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
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ONE YEAR LATER, QUESTIONS REMAIN UNANSWERED
Brad Steffey
01/06/17
Many of you may have forgotten the the Name Lavoy Finicum, I suppose some have never heard it. To some it might be familiar but they really just don't know much about it.
Most only ever knew what was reported by the news media; Some wacko with a gun took on the cops and was shot and killed.
I haven't forgotten. I won't forget. He wasn't a nut job or a "militant" as they branded him to justify his murder. He wasn't breaking any laws, he didn't "make a run at Law enforcement" Nor did he run from them.
I wrote the article below four days after he was killed. I went back there simply to pay respects but once there was astonished at what I saw and what clearly took place.
Lavoy Finicum was simply TOO GOOD. He was extremely righteous, God fearing, Honorable, very knowledgeable and his worst offense and death sentence was that he was very charismatic.
Not like an actor or a politician but very humble, gracious, meek, extremely likable, credible and presented his knowledge in a way that you knew he was right. He was extremely well read and researched everything extensively before speaking about it. He respected Law Enforcement, embraced them and had a very peaceful and humble approach at informing them that they were operating outside of the law on certain issues.
A cattle Rancher himself, he knew first hand of the encroaching Federal Agencies and how one by one they were extinguishing the Ranchers and the culture of Ranching. He was beginning in his own conflict with BLM on his Ranch in Arizona when news arrived that fellow Ranchers in Oregon (Dwight and Steven Hammond) were being sent to prison for five years on trumped up charges relating to the years long conflict hey had endured against BLM, and USFS.
Finicum and many others from around the Country felt this was extremely unjust and traveled to protest the incarceration and help a fellow Rancher.
While here in Oregon, he committed a crime punishable by death. He spoke out against the Federal Government and State co conspirators who have grown accustomed to being feared and revered as infallible and almighty. People have become accustomed to the notion that you just don't push back against the giant bully of the Government.
Finicum researched, read and educated himself on all the legal elements of the US Constitution, the laws associated with land, water, and grazing rights and the boundaries and limitations of federal officials.
He stood on a very solid foundation of knowledge and came to realize that Federal agencies had begun operating well outside of their legal jurisdiction and had become comfortable simply imposing their might over our rights.
He also committed the crime of educating other Ranchers on their legal rights. We call it helping your neighbor. They call it Conspiracy. They incarcerated all the other Ranchers and occupiers of the Malhuer Refuge and flexed their mighty muscles, refusing to allow bail, holding inmates in solitary confinement and at times physically abusing them.
Not Finicum though, he was far too dangerous. His weapon of knowledge, charisma, integrity and character were far too dangerous so he simply had to be extinguished.
So on a bitter cold evening along remote HWY 395 between Burns and John Day on January 26th at 4:35 pm they carried out the assassination.
They carefully chose a section of highway where there was no cell service, no public, and sealed it off from any traffic or witnesses that might see what happened.
Keep in mind, they couldn't obtain an arrest warrant hard as they tried for the simple fact that LaVoy and the others had committed no crime.
So instead they infiltrated the encampment with paid informants, learned of a meeting scheduled in John Day and set up a Deadmans Roadblock to funnel him into an impossible scenario in which he had no chance for survival.
Know by military strategists as an "L" ambush, it is designed only to kill. It is not a tactic deployed to capture. There is no capture component. It is designed to extinguish foreign targets and typically deployed in foreign lands where there is no scrutiny. It is a very sloppy and clumsy method of coaxing a victim into a situation where there is no means of egress, escape or capture. They simply must die and it is designed to imply that the victim was a threat to them by demonstrating an intent to harm by "ramming" the roadblock.
Once completed they have a broad canvas to paint the narrative and design the justification as no one is there to hold them accountable. They simply ship it to their partners in the media, they color it palatable and pump it directly into your cerebral cortex via whatever media source you prefer. Within minutes of the shooting it was publicized as a shootout with law enforcement.
For many, that's all they ever heard. Even though they eventually retracted the "shooutout" part, it never gets heard. Slowly it simmers down to a questionable shooting that just gets brushed under the rug but by then the sensational aspects are gone and everyone's scooping up the next tale.
Like predators, they laid in wait for the two vehicles carrying the occupants of the Refuge. They hid out on a side road and when the vehicles went past, they made their strike. They knew the one vehicle in the rear of the convoy would stop and submit because it was being driven by the informant and plant Mark McConnell.
They also knew that LaVoy was driving the lead vehicle so they were careful to not obstruct his pathway ahead. Instead they performed a "probable cause" stop and pulled him over.
LaVoy, knowing the law all too well knew that this was an illegal stop because the "police" were in unmarked pick ups wearing civilian clothing and tactical gear. They also exited their vehicles and trained high powered rifles with laser scopes at them. When LaVoy became uncomfortable with this unlawful process he informed him that he would meet them at the Sherrifs office in John Day where he was headed to meet with Sherrif Palmer.
For reasons unannounced but obvious to me, they didn't restrict him from going forward. They could have easily blocked him in right there with trucks in front and behind him if their intent was to arrest him but they did not. Instead, they had already set up a Dead Mans road block 2 miles down the road around a blind, downhill turn.
When he asked for identification from the officers and when he refused to simply step out of the truck with laser sights pasted on him, they fired a shot at him from behind, encouraging him to flee. He advised them of his intent to go to the nearest law enforcement facility per his right due to the lack of identity of on the vehicles behind him and the fact that they had fired unprovoked shots at him.
So many have criticized his decision to drive away from the stop after refusing to comply with demands to get out of the vehicle but think about this. You're in a remote area, trucks advance from behind with nothing but blue flashing lights in the grill. You stop and the immediately file out of the truck and hit you with several lasers from their rifles. This is intimidating as hell. Now adrenaline is hammering through your system, you feel unsafe, you feel threatened, you're en route to visit the Sheriff of the next County and while you're processing this they fire a shot and blow out your passenger side mirror.
They're in unmarked vehicles and civilian clothing with full tac gear and helmets.I would want to get somewhere safe also. This doesn't feel safe at all and you know you've broken no laws. You know it's an illegal stop. The sheriff is 50 miles ahead.
So he advised them of his intent and left.
Again, they made no attempt at obstructing him from fleeing. This is peculiar.
They now fall in and press from behind at high speed to encourage his speed noting in reports that they approached him at speeds exceeding 80 MPH knowing they had a Deadmans Roadblock set up directly ahead around a blind turn.
According to plan, as LaVoy makes the turn, himself unaware of the roadblock, shots immediately ring out and strike his truck from the front from a position unknown to him, then another shot then another. Little did he know, they were laying in wait around the corner and had radio contact with the chase vehicles behind. The FBI radiod ahead telling the OSP and other FBI ahead that he said they were going to have to shoot him. So the second the nose of his vehicle makes the turn and a moment before he can even recognize the roadblock an OSP officer opens fire directly at him but misses and strikes his hood. The next shot strikes his grill and the third one strikes his left side mirror.
Aerial surveillance provided by the FBI demonstrates that the moment he emerges around the turn and the truck is struck with bullets he hit the brakes. He applied them so hard that at one point they locked causing his truck to pitch slightly sideways at which time he eases slightly on the brakes to prevent losing control then re-applies them to try and stop short of impacting the three trucks blocking the road. All the while shots are ringing out, bullets are hitting his truck, fragments are flying from his mirror and he can't stop short of the roadlock. It's below freezing on a frozen road, 4:35 in the evening, on a sharp turn with a downhill grade.
At this moment, I'm sure he realizes what they've done to him. He now realizes he has met fate and that they are going to kill him, Shawna Cox, Victoria Sharp and Ryan Bundy all in the truck with him. The two Women (one adult and one teenager) are along to sing at the meeting and video tape the meeting. The officers are informed and aware of the Womens presence in the vehicle.
LaVoy now has few options. At this point, four shots have impacted his truck, he's closing on the roadblock, can't stop, and either has to impact the trucks with officers stacked behind them or take the snow bank and try to avoid injuring his passengers.
He makes the obvious decision to take the snow bank and tells everyone to hold on.
Immediately, he steps out of the vehicle arms high in the air to try and stop further rounds from being fired at his passengers. Before he can even get fully out into the snow two shots ring out at him from his rear right rear.
He's now been shot at 6 times. Another thing people forget to consider is the deafening noise that hammers against your brain and senses when a high caliber rifle is discharged at or near you.
On a video, it comes across as a loud popping sound. In the forest, without hearing protection its like a knife in your ear and an explosion. It's so disorienting it's hard to prevent an involuntary reaction.
One of these new shots is believed to have missed him and embedded in the snowy ground and the other enters the roof of the truck, goes through the roof, through the rear door glass and either strikes LaVoy or Ryan Bundy. This detail is still yet unknown because the FBI or mercenary(s) who fired these two shots lied about firing them, recovered their shell casings and disposed of the evidence.
Eventually, the hole in the roof led them to change their testimony and admit to their lie but to date it is unknown if they were or are to be disciplined, who fired the two shots, and if either impacted him.
At this point LaVoy attempts to draw attention away from the occupants of the truck and draw attention to himself. He briskly walks away from the truck, struggling through the deep snow while trying to keep his arms up while yelling at them "just shoot me! If your'e going to shoot, just shoot me" attempting to draw fire away from the Women.
The most disturbing thing I have ever seen on video then shows officers closing in from all sides surrounding him like Wolves closing in on a wounded sheep, coming from all sides. You see him reacting to something hitting him in the torso. His arms go from up and out to quickly clutching his abdomen to up again. This happens twice looking like the arms are involuntarily dropping as the sting of the projectiles impact him.
The official narrative says he has not been hit yet at this point and he is "reaching for a gun" as his arms drop. This is a horrendous lie.
You've just been shot at 6 times, you're surrounded by officers pointing rifles at you from close range (12' to 17') your arms are in the air. IF you had a pistol stuffed into the lining of your jacket, awkwardly, upside down, are you going to reach for the lapel with one hand, open your jacket, reach into the liner with your other hand and try to free the pistol, chamber it, take aim and shoot one of the 8 or 10 officers who have guns trained on you? You're a Husband, Father and Grandfather.
I don't think so. I think that he either was unknowingly hit with one of the first two shots fired by HRT before his feet hit the snow. It's not at all unusual to be hit and not realize it in a highly adrenalized state of mind. Once he makes his way toward the spot where he actually fell, he feels the pain of the shot that has pierced him through the shoulder and chest. His arms which are in the air involuntarily drop and reach for his wound. His brain overrides and raises his arms again so as not to be a threat, again his arms involuntarily drop to the wound, again he forces himself to raise them for fear of being shot.
The other alternative is that he was being shot with rubber bullets. But if this is true, 8 different OSP officers testified to the contrary and the audio and video track was altered to edit this out. There are three provided video sources and two audio sources, none of which bears evidence to this concept of rubber bullets or gas rounds impacting him.
I firmly believe after reviewing the video hundreds of times, talking to video analysts, and , picking through it frame by frame, that he was hit by at least one of the HRT fired rounds, was clutching his wound, then was tased by OSP Officer #3 then immediately shot by officer # 1 and #2 AFTER he was tased.
They claim that he was never tased but nothing explains his sudden and immediate fall backwards while they claim they shot him in the back at close range. Furthermore is you slow the video and audio track, watch and audio track in relation to the video, he's already falling backward when the audio track gives the signature for the shots.
Why would they conceal this? The aerial video that was released by the FBI was badly edited and leaves unclear the following moments. Their statements indicate that one OSP officer closed in from behind to tase him while two other OSP officers moved in and shot him saying he looked as though he was drawing a gun to shoot the officer who was in position to tase him.
The autopsy shows three bullets pierced him through and through all leaving exit wounds but the trajectory in the autopsy does not align with statements made by the officers that fired them.Their narrative explains one officer firing twice in succession and one officer firing once. Both hitting him in the back. Yet the autopsy CLEARLY indicates three graphically different wound trajectories
One of the bullets retrieved from his clothing does not match the bullets used by OSP officers that said they shot him.The bullet was described as "perfectly mushroomed" by the OSP officer who saw it fall from his his body into the snow as they were moving his body after he had expired.
Names of Officers have been concealed and are still so.
An "independent investigation" conducted by law enforcement officials in the adjacent county was quick to justify the shooting as righteous and closed the case even though two FBI mercenaries were caught in their lies about the two shots fired while LaVoy was exiting the truck. They were caught because one of the bullets pierced the roof of the truck and Two of the occupants of the truck were shooting video with their cell phones.
A year later, we still know nothing of the investigation into the to FBI shots that were lied about nor the evidence that was concealed. What's unclear to me is, without the conclusion of this investigation, how can they so quickly justify the shooting.
Why have they released no helmet cam or body cam videos of the shooting?
Evidence shows there were two aerial videos filmed of the shooting, where is the other one?
The road just beyond the incident straightens for several hundred yards and levels out. Why did they place the roadblock where he couldn't see it in time to safely stop?
Why did they need a roadblock at all? The road block was already established before he fled the stop location. There is NO ESCAPE ROUTE on hwy 395. IT ONLY LEADS TO JOHN DAY!
Why on a downhill slope when a level, straight stretch of hwy was just a few yards away?
Why didn't they just let him go to the Sheriff?
Why did they stop him in the first place if he had committed no crime and they had no warrant?
Why didn't they prevent him from leaving the scene where they pulled him over, instead setting up the ambush and Deadmans Roadbock two miles down the road?
Why did they get a warrant the next morning?
Why are they so desperate to take the bullet from Ryan Bundys shoulder when he wants it kept there safely for evidence?
All total, there were 9 (KNOWN) shots total fired at the occupants of the truck.
There were no shots fired by LaVoy or the others.
There were no guns raised by any of the occupants of the truck.
There were no guns seen in possession of LaVoy or the occupants of the truck.
The occupants of the truck were armed with song hymn books, computers and video recorders for the meeting with Sheriff Palmer and the townspeople of Grant County.
Sheriff Palmer had asked them to leave their weapons behind for the safety of the the members of his community.
LaVoys common daily 45 revolver always on his hip was left at the refuge as well as the weapon often seen in his shoulder holster.
They would have us believe that he left his cherished Colt revolver that he always wore on his hip and the one carried in his shoulder holster but decided to bring a Ruger 9mm stuffed awkwardly in the pocket liner on the inside of a Levi Jacket, upside down.
LaVoy was a good and decent Man, helping his fellow man in a time of need. He also invested his time in educating members of neighboring communities while he was here. He was assassinated on our soil in a brutal premeditated ambush which left his wife, many Children, and Grandchildren without their Husband, Father and Grandfather.
There was no intent to arrest him. There was NO NEED to arrest him.
There was no cause to kill him.
Our own Governor Kate Brown initiated the FBI the HRC and large mass of OSP and Sheriff deputies from every county in Oregon to tromp on an innocent group of 20 or so peaceful, God Loving Ranchers and protesters 50 miles from any town or community.
I know this because I took the time to go there, meet the people, observe the situation and simply understand. They did not restrict access to anyone. They requested meetings at the refuge with Sherriff Ward, OSP, FBI, Grasty, Brown anyone who would read their redress of grievance which is the proper lawful protocol for citizens to address problems with Government.
But the Government didn't want to talk, they didn't want to listen, they just wanted to contain, silence and CRUSH any person or people who would dare to ask them for a meeting or question their authority.
They were harming no one, they were threatening no one.
ALL of the escalation came from Sheriff Dave Ward, Harney County Commissioner Steven Grasty, Or Senator Ron Wyden, Governor Kate Brown.
There was NO escalation from Bundy or Finicum, no laws were broken, no property was damaged as reported by the FBI, Grasty and the media. In fact the property was greatly improved by the occupants. It was in gross disrepair when I visited.
I asked them if there was anything they needed. They were getting MASSIVE contributions of food, blankets, heaters, coolers etc from the surrounding community that Ward and Grasty said were in fear of harm from them.
As we close in on the anniversary of this horrific event I will be revisiting it and updating what I've come to learn and understand about this and other related issues.
The attached article and photo compilation is the first one written by myself related to the matter and was days after the assassination. It was raw and emotional and Some of the knowledge I know have such as how he was killed, how many times he was shot, where he was shot etc. was still classified at the time of the article.
I and many others have spent an enormous amount of time reviewing, watching video, talking with witnesses, sifting through 400 page reports, enduring graphic autopsy reports and speaking with law enforcement officials regarding this injustice.
We will not end our pursuit of justice until it is achieved. I've seen an enormous uptick in awareness in the year since this occurred. So many people have had the vail of deceit lifted from their eyes and are beginning to realize as I have that we not only are responsible for allowing this to happen, we are bound to see that it ceases.
We are at great odds in America right now but not because of those such as Finicum and Bundy who rose to the call of their responsibility, but because America has gone dark under the effects of a very manipulative, hateful, deceptive operatives that have slithered their way into positions of power.
Our founding Fathers warned us of this EXACT scenario and crafted a brilliant blueprint in which to hopefully prevent it but in the case such as it is, to also correct it. It's called the Constitution and Bill of rights. Learn it, study it and ACT upon the framework of its content.
It is only repairable through the efforts of the citizenry and the common person. Trump is a wild card. He may give us a leg up and curtail some of the resistance we've endured but he cannot fix this in 8 years. The likelyhood is that he will be ham stringed or eliminated and we cannot afford to lose any momentum.
The momentum is with us right now but this is an enormously powerful adversary and we will need all the help and support from each and every person in every corner of America to defeat this ilk.
Many of the Officers that were involved in this atrocity are good and decent people who are being effected by the few who are not. The Federal influence on this detail and from what I can tell one particular OSP officer are very dark figures and I believe they need to be identified. They are currently holding positions of authority and my greatest concern is that others will and are being victimized by these crooked, angry hateful cowards.
A year later, we still have no names of the shooters, no viable explanation of the video disparities, No answers on the FBI shooters who lied and concealed evidence, no Justice in the premeditated killing of LaVoy Finicum. We DESERVE answers.
The Finicum family deserves answers.
The TRUTH needs to be told.
To those of you in the trenches, clawing, scratching, protesting attending hearings, learning, sharing, communicating or simply talking to your neighbor; Thank you and God Bless you for your efforts. You're making a difference in an historic and unprecedented time.When the burden gets too heavy as it has for me at times, step back reevaluate, educate, find another point of entry and find a friend.
This work can devour the strongest will. We need community to continue to endure this process. Lives are at stake, Children's futures, your future.
May LaVoy rest in Peace for all eternity.
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
Gary Hunt, Outpost of Freedom shares his meeting with FBI agents
« Statement by Gary Hunt, Outpost of Freedom, with regard the Freedom of the Press
Freedom of the Press #1 – Meeting with the FBI
January 7, 2017, 8:20 pm
Freedom of the Press #1
Meeting with the FBI
Gary Hunt
Outpost of Freedom
January 7, 2017
On the morning of January 5, 2017, I received a phone call from Special Agent Matthew Catalano, out of the Chico, California, FBI Office. I recognized the name from my research. It appears that he has been assigned to do Internet investigations on Gary Hunt. His research included articles in Mainstream Media that mentioned my name, and my own articles. However, I do know that he has been reading the “Burns Chronicles” series, as most of the earlier ones are in evidence in the Ammon Bundy, et al, trial discovery.
Back to the phone call. He told me that he had a letter from Portland that he wanted to deliver to me. He asked if I was going to be in Chico, which is about 25 miles away, and I seldom go there. I told him no. He then offered to meet me at the local Sheriff’s Office. That is about 15 miles from me, so I said that I would be glad to meet him in a restaurant, here in Los Molinos. That was agreed to. I then asked him if he had a warrant. He said that there was no warrant, only the letter. We then arranged the meeting, and he then informed that he was bringing a fellow agent along with him.
As arranged, we met at the restaurant just before noon. We sat in the front booth, my back toward the window and daylight in their faces. There was an older man in the booth immediately behind them, and once he heard the words “F B I”, he turned towards us and listened, intently. Apparently, FBI presence in Los Molinos (population about 1200 and rural) is not quite an everyday occurrence.
After introductions, they ordered coffee and me, iced tea. Then, he handed me the Letter. I asked the agent what statute that bound me to the Cease and Desist portion of the letter. He answered that he didn’t know. When I asked him what he thought of the verdict in the Portland Group One trial, he answered that he was surprised by it and by the election results (Presidential). I had the distinct impression that he was pleased with the election results. We discussed the Roviaro decision (See “Informants – What to do About Them #2“) and I wondered, aloud, why the government chose to intentionally out Mark McConnell when Oregon State Police (OSP) Officer Beckert testified. He seemed somewhat surprised that the government outed McConnell, so it appeared that he had not followed the trial.
I told him that no informants had received any serious threats, though McConnell, and his girlfriend, Shannon Vita, had displayed weapons when they went to a restaurant where Jon and some friends were eating. (See “Informant Mark McConnell Receives Surprise Christmas Gift From Activist Jon Ritzheimer“)
I explained to Catalano that for over twenty years, I have always had respect for the FBI, as they have always been courteous and respectful (I know that many will disagree with this), with the exception of the Hostage Rescue Team (HRT). I explained to him about how the HRT overrode the regular negotiators in Waco, resulting in the deaths of over 80 people. He said that he was only 4-years old at that time, making him about 31 years old, now..
In discussing the HRT, I pointed out that the HRT had fired two shots prior to the OSP murdering LaVoy Finicum, and then tampered with evidence by removing their shell casings and failing to report that they had fired shots at the incident. He seemed somewhat surprised, so he may not have known about that incident. Then, I explained that the FBI was investigating the FBI, and they still haven’t concluded that investigation — in nearly a year.
When the conversation turned back to the letter, he asked if I was going to turn over my files. I told him, absolutely not. I asked him if he recognized me as press. He responded, after starting and stopping, that he thought I worked in a gray area. I asked him if the FBI wasn’t also working in a gray area when they placed 15 informants in the Refuge or other aspects of the occupation at Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.
He then asked if I was would tell him where I got the documents. I told him “Absolutely not”, and that I had no intention of doing so. I then explained to him that the FBI had gone into my private email list account and my private (shared only with a few) Dropbox account, and that they didn’t even notify me that they had done so. I had to find that out on my own. I then explained that I was open with the government and stated, in my first informant article, that I had received copies of the discovery documents. At least I was open about what I had done, unlike the government.
Then, we ventured into the Fourth Amendment. I asked him what “secure in their papers” meant. He said that it meant “digital documents, too.” So, again, I pointed out that they accessed my digital documents from my private mail list and my private Dropbox account, and that they had never served me with a warrant. I contended that the FBI actions were far more egregious than mine. Though not responding to what I had said, he went back to the “Protective Order” (pages 2 & 3 of the Letter), relying on what the Court said, without regard to the Constitution. Well, heck, my Constitution is supposed to afford me the same protection.
He then said that they informants were “witnesses”, and that to divulge that information is a violation of the Court Order. However, if they are “witnesses”, as he said, then when the Sixth Amendment says that the defendant has a right “to be confronted with the witnesses against him”, how can you confront someone whose name is not given?
As the conversation began to wind down, he pointed out that the purpose of this meeting was to compel me to comply with the letter. I told him that I had no intention to do so, though I would probably call Pamala Holsinger and inquire as to the specific statute that gives the Court such authority over me.
When I asked him if he was going to pick up the tab, since he had an expense account, he said that he doesn’t get an expense account. I told him I found it rather curious that the informants have expense accounts, but the agents do not.
Thus ended my half hour discussion with FBI SA Catalano.
The following day, I called him and explained that I was not going to call Holsinger. Instead, I wanted to look into my legal rights. Just a few hours later, near the end of the day (Friday), the US Attorney’s Office filed their Motions seeking a Court Order to compel me to comply with what was requested (i.e. demanded) in the Letter. This will be discussed in Part #3.
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
Gary Hunt, Outpost of Freedom - Freedom of the Press, Part 2 - Cease and Desist
Freedom of the Press #2 – Cease and Desist
January 8, 2017, 11:23 am
Freedom of the Press #2
Cease and Desist
Gary Hunt
Outpost of Freedom
January 8, 2017
THE PREAMBLE TO THE BILL OF RIGHTSCongress of the United States
begun and held at the City of New-York, on
Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.
The Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.
THE FIRST AMENDMENT
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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Perhaps it would help if we look at the initial step that the government took in attempting to suppress the First Amendment protected right, that “Congress shall make no law… abridging the freedom… of the press“. Congress, being the only legislative body of the government (Article I, Section 1, “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.”), cannot, by that simple statement, delegate to any other branch of the government the authority to pass any law, rule, or policy that would be contrary to that protection afforded by the Constitution.
The first step, as explained in “Freedom of the Press – Part #1”, was a Letter, hand delivered by a FBI Special Agent. I read the Letter in his presence, and we discussed certain aspects of it. However, for the reader, it is necessary to understand just how the Justice Department (pardon my misnomer) threatened me, if I did not comply with their demands. (Bold text in the original.)
Dear Mr. Hunt:
Excerpts of material produced in discovery under a Court Protective Order in the above subject case, United States v. Ammon Bundy, et al., 3:16-CR-00051-BR, have been viewed on your website (http://outpost-of-freedom.com). Your possession of that material and any dissemination and publication of any excerpts of that material violates the terms of the Court’s Protective Order (copy enclosed).
Consequently, you must immediately cease and desist publicly disseminating that material. You must also return all copies of that material to the United States and remove all protected material from the referenced website or any other website. To make arrangements to immediately return all material, electronic or otherwise, that is illegally in your possession, please contact the Federal Bureau of Investigation at (916) 746-7000 and ask to be directed to the Chico Resident Agency. Failure to immediately comply with this demand within twenty-four hours will necessitate that the United States seek a court order compelling your compliance.
The Letter was signed by Pamala R. Holsinger, Chief, Criminal Division, for Billy J. Williams, United States Attorney, U. S. Department of Justice, District of Oregon.
Now, the Order states that the information is not to be “disseminated”. I understood the provision, and the documents were provided to me with the understanding that I would only “excerpt” from the documents. This was explained the first time I excerpted from the document, in “Burns Chronicles No40 – Allen Varner (Wolf)“. I stated at that time:
“I will be referring to FBI documents that I have obtained. They are marked, at the bottom left corner, “Dissemination Limited by Court Order”. So, let me make this perfectly clear — I have no intention of “disseminating” the documents, nor am I bound by any “Court Order”. I am writing about a Public Trial, which was held in September and October 2016. Had I access to these documents during that trial, I would have written the same article that I am writing now.”
Now, is there a difference between excerpt and disseminate? From Merriam-Webster:Disseminate:
1: to spread abroad as though sowing seed.
2: to disperse throughoutand,
Excerpt
1: to select (a passage) for quoting: extract
2: to take or publish extracts from (as a book)
Disseminating the information that I received is something someone else did. I simply took excerpts, or extracts, from the documents. If laws, or edicts, are to be held to, they must be written. If the Court chose to use “disseminate”, when they meant, “excerpt”, they should have used “excerpt” instead of “disseminate”. But, more about that, later. If the Court can pick and choose, or change, a definition to suit whim, then we really are in trouble. So, while that difference may appear relatively insignificant, generally speaking, from the legal standpoint, there is a chasm between the two.
Holsinger attempts to pretend that this is the same thing. But when we look the wording of the Letter, it is apparent that there is an attempt to misrepresent the Court Order by stating, “dissemination and publication of any excerpts of that material“. Holsinger has added a new twist by separating “dissemination” from “publication of any excerpts” with an “and”, making them separate and distinct elements. However, the Order only addresses dissemination.
Then, Holsinger states that “[My] possession of that material and any dissemination and publication of any excerpts of that material violates the terms of the Court’s Protective Order“. Obviously a conclusion that Holsinger has drawn, though that Order was not directed to me, rather, it was directed to other specific people. So, as I said in Burns Chronicles No 40, I am not bound by this Court Order. However, before we get to the attachment, there is one more point to address..
Holsinger further states that “[I]must also return all copies of that material to the United States and remove all protected material from the referenced website or any other website.” Yesterday, January 8, 2017, hundreds of people began sharing the articles on Facebook. Dozens of people have begun mirroring the Outpost of Freedom blog, especially the Burns Chronicles series. They have also begun sharing and mirroring this new series, “Freedom of the Press”.
Holsinger has attempted to impose on me the Herculean task of removing the referenced material from not only my website, but “any other website“. Heck, I doubt that even the FBI could keep up with such a task. My supposed compliance would have little effect, as that that horse is already out of the barn.
I suppose that we could look at this in slightly different terms. We have all heard of civil disobedience. Well, I may, perhaps, be civilly disobedient, I am not criminally disobedient, as Holsinger attempts to suggest. However, those who have to propagate the articles have taken a first step in civil defiance (See Burns Chronicles No 9 – Civil Defiance or Submission?). A much more definitive statement to the government is that, not just me, but We, will not comply.
Now, the Court Protective Order Upon motion of the United States, the Court being advised as to the nature of this case, and good cause being shown, it is hereby ORDERED that. pursuant to Rule 16(d)(1l) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, defense counsel may provide copies of discovery only to the following individuals
(1) The defendants in this case;
(2) Persons employed by the attorney of record who are necessary to assist counsel ofrecord in preparation for trial or other proceedings in this case; and
(3) Persons who defense counsel deems necessary to further legitimate investigation andpreparation of this case.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that defense counsel shall provide a copy of this Protective Order to any person above who receives copies of discovery.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that any person above who receives copies of discovery from defense counsel shall use the discovery only to assist the defense in the investigation and preparation of this case and shall not reproduce or disseminate the discovery material to anyother person or entity.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that this Protective Order applies only to
(1) Statements by witnesses and defendants to government officials;
(2) Sealed documents. and
(3) Evidence received from searches of electronic media.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that if there is specific discovery material that defense counsel believes should be an exception to this Protective Order, the parties shall confer before seeking guidance from this Court- The parties shall advise the Court by letter of any exceptions made to the Protective Order.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that any materials subject to this Protective Order may be filed by a party under seal without prior approval of the Court.
The parties shall continue to confer regarding the efficacy of this Protective Order. Any outstanding issues between the parties related to this Protective Order shall be addressed by the Court at the status conference on June 15, 2016.The Order states to whom the defense counsel may provide copies. I am not among those so designated. As proof, I was not given a copy of the Protective Order, though I had secured a copy back in March, when the Protective Order became a part of the court record.
In the next “Further Ordered”, we find there is a restriction placed upon those who are included in the designated recipients of the information. However, that Order does not extended its long arm of the Order to include me.
So, if we are a nation of laws, and if this edict is, in a sense, a law, then we must all, including the Court, be bound by the letter of the law.
Let me quote James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, from Federalist #62:
“Law is defined to be a rule of action; but how can that be a rule, which is little known, and less fixed?”
That is why laws are written. And, once written, they can be easily understood by all. It is not up to the Judge to decide what the law means. The law must be in the language of the land so that any who may be bound by it can understand exactly what the are bound to obey.
We will, in a subsequent article in this series, address why that limited “Protective Order” extends only to those identified within its text.
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
Gary Hunt, Outpost of Freedom says Judge Ana Brown was forced to eat a little of that pie know as 'humble'
Freedom of the Press Update – A Grateful Thank You
January 9, 2017, 2:12 pm
Freedom of the Press – Update
A Grateful Thank Youhttp://outpost-of-freedom.com/blog/w...iams-w-egg.jpg
Gary Hunt
Outpost of Freedom
January 9, 2017
Judge Anna Brown, in Portland, Oregon, has made a decision regarding the Justice Department’s efforts to shut down my writings. Before I give you what she has said, I want to thank you all for the incredible outpouring of support for what I have been doing. I have no doubt that Judge Brown has issued the following order realizing that the government, in Ammon Bundy, et al., has overstepped their bounds and has to, now, eat a little of that pie called humble.
The Minute Order filed, today, January 9, 2017, reads as follows:
“Order by Judge Anna J. Brown. The Court has reviewed the governments Motion to Enforce Protective Order and directs the government to file no later than Noon on Tuesday, 1/10/17 a supplemental memorandum that addresses the following issues:
(1) The Courts authority to enjoin the actions of a third party under the existing terms of the Protective Order and without advance notice to the third party and an opportunity for that third party to be heard;
(2) the Courts jurisdiction to compel an individual who is not present within the District of Oregon to respond to the government’s arguments raised in this Motion via an order to show cause or other form of order; and
(3) whether the Court should amend the existing Protective Order in any respect to address the issues raised in the government’s Motion."
Briefly, the Court required the government to prove that I, Gary Hunt, come under the authority of the Court’s Protective Order regarding the Discovery material. Next, Judge Brown requires the government to prove that the Portland Distract Court has jurisdictional authority over someone not within that jurisdictional district. I am in California, the situs (def: the place to which, for purposes of legal jurisdiction or taxation, a property belongs.) of the alleged crime. Third, if the Court does decide to amend the Protective Order, they will have created an “ex post facto Order [law]”, which is prohibited by the Constitution. And, finally, she has given them until tomorrow, sort of like the 24 hours they gave me, to provide a memorandum justifying their efforts to add me to the list of those persecuted by the government in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge event.
Again, thanks to the thousands of patriots who joined this battle. Also, special thanks to Maxine Bernstein at the Oregonian/Oregon Live, for her article laying out the position of the government and as well, mine. I have no doubt that her article and the subsequent Associated Press articles on the subject were a major factor in the Judge’s reinforcement of the principles that we are still a nation of laws, to which the government, also, is bound.
With gratitude to all,
Gary Hunt
Outpost of Freedom
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
It sounds like Leo Stratton from Oregon who publishes Lazaro Ecenarro's videos and his wife Shelly are going to Trump's inauguration
Trump inaguration interview with Portland, Oregon's Fox 12
http://youtu.be/wbG0YP_r-00
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
US Attorney's Office urges Judge Anna Brown to strengthen protective court order on FBI informants
Maxine Bernstein, The Oregonian. http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-sta...ge_to_str.html
Prosecutors urge judge to strengthen protective court order on FBI informant reports
http://image.oregonlive.com/home/oli...atars/4406.pngBy Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive
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on January 10, 2017 at 5:38 PM, updated January 10, 2017 at 5:39 PM
Federal prosecutors on Tuesday suggested a judge expand a protective order that now prohibits people charged in the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge or anyone on their defense teams from sharing the FBI's reports on its informants.
Calling it an "extraordinary case,'' the prosecutors asked U.S. District Judge Anna J. Brown to add language to her order that forbids both "direct and indirect violations - wherever they may occur.''
Prosecutors are concerned that Gary Hunt, a California man tied to a network of militia groups, has obtained FBI reports on 15 informants used by the agency during the refuge takeover and that Hunt is sharing excerpts in online blog posts. Last week, the prosecutors urged the judge to order the 70-year-old to remove the posts and hand over the FBI documents.
Hunt has refused to do so, arguing that he's not a party to the federal conspiracy case or on the defense teams -- and therefore isn't bound by the protective order.
Brown asked prosecutors to state in writing what authority the court has to order a third party to follow the protective order and how she could do so without giving the person a chance to be heard. She also asked how she could order someone outside Oregon to follow the order.
In court filings, prosecutors and FBI agent Ronnie Walker responded by quoting one defendant set for trial in February,
Duane Ehmer, who referred to Hunt on Facebook as "working with our lawyers.''
Hunt has denied working with any of the defendants' defense teams, but did say he wanted to identify informants used in the case to help in the upcoming trial.
Prosecutors further argued that the judge has the power to stop the actions of someone who isn't a party to a protective order when they "aid and abet'' others involved in the case to violate the court's order.
Hunt countered, "Aiding and abetting from what I recall is a cooperative effort between two parties. They can't even identify the other party.''
Prosecutors have argued that the material - 246 pages of redacted reports - is under protective order to shield the informants from harm. The reports detail what informants told FBI agents leading up to and during the 41-day occupation. The informants aren't named in the reports, but Hunt has identified a handful of people who appear to fit descriptions in the documents.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Pamala Holsinger acknowledged that Hunt should get an opportunity to be heard before the judge takes action, whether holding him in civil or criminal contempt of a court order or imposing other sanctions.
But she pressed for a court injunction directing Hunt to remove all postings on the informants immediately. She also argued that the judge has the power to issue such an injunction even if the person is outside Oregon.
In a separate development, Oregon standoff defendant Jon Ritzheimer, who pleaded guilty to a conspiracy charge but has asked to withdraw his plea, recently posted a video on Facebook that he took of himself confronting the friend of an informant at his workplace.
Ritzheimer wrote that as he was visiting the retail shop, "I decided to confront this low life Federal informant lover who was giving me dirty looks as I shopped.''
"I'm going to hunt every single one of you guys down and call you out,'' Ritzheimer can be heard saying on the video.
-- Maxine Bernstein
mbernstein@oregonian.com
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
Gary Hunt, Outpost of Freedom. Freedom of the Press #3 "Contmptuous Postings"
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Freedom of the Press #3 – “Contemptuous Postings”
January 11, 2017, 1:42 pm
Freedom of the Press #3
“Contemptuous Postings”
Gary Hunt
Outpost of Freedom
January 11, 2017.
Well, even though there were many interruptions, I was working on a response to SA Ronnie Walker’s first Affidavit. Then, on January 9, 2017, Judge Brown, in a Minute Order (See “Freedom of the Press Update – A Grateful Thank You“), told the US Attorney that what they had filed with the Court was insufficient, and they had to go back and “do over”, to justify what they were asking the Court to do.
I will assume that they were up late, as they did make the deadline of providing a Memorandum, supported by an Affidavit, in Response to Judge Brown’s Order. So, let’s look into the minds of these well-paid defenders of justice (just kidding). We will deal with the Memoranda, though it will refer to, in one instance, to the Affidavit. There is no need to address the Affidavit, it is simply a review of recent events in regard to this matter, and then provides a smidgen of hearsay supported by another smidgen of hearsay, but, when one is desperate, one digs deep.
Now to the Memorandum; I will include all pertinent text, and, I will underline and address the more significant parts.
The United States of America, by Billy J. Williams, United States Attorney for the District of Oregon, and through Ethan D. Knight, Geoffrey A. Barrow, Craig J. Gabriel, and Pamala R. Holsinger, Assistant United States Attorneys, hereby submits this supplemental memorandum in support of the Government’s Motion to Enforce Protective Order.
On January 6, 2017, the government filed a Motion to Enforce Protective Order seeking an order from this Court enjoining third party Gary Hunt from further dissemination of discovery materials subject to this Court’s March 4, 2016, Protective Order. The Motion was supported by the Affidavit of FBI Special Agent Ronnie Walker. On January 9, 2017, this Court directed the government to file a supplemental memorandum addressing the following issues:
Well, I suppose that they are both paying attention, and, not paying attention. The Cease and Desist letter stated, “dissemination and publication of any excerpts of that material“.
To which, I responded, in “Freedom of the Press #2 – Cease and Desist“, when I wrote, “Holsinger has added a new twist by separating ‘dissemination’ from ‘publication of any excerpts’ with an ‘and’, making them separate and distinct elements. However, the Order only addresses dissemination.”
So, we are back to dissemination. Readers will recall that I have consistently stated that I was “excerpting, not disseminating“. Of course, I first drew that distinction back on October 15, 2016, in “Burns Chronicles No 40 – Allen Varner (Wolf)“. So, are there two elements, each different from the other, as in the Letter, or, only one element, as in the Protective Order? Again, we must look at the letter of the law, and not what some government attorney wants it to be, at any given moment.
This is what Judge Brown has ordered the US Attorney to address.
1. The Court’s authority to enjoin the actions of a third party under the existing terms of the Protective Order and without advanced notice to the third party and an opportunity for that third party to be heard;
2. The Court’s jurisdiction to compel an individual who is not present within the district of Oregon to respond to the government’s arguments raised in the Motion via an order to show cause or other form of order; and
3. Whether the Court should amend the existing Protective Order in any respect to address the issues raised in the government’s Motion.
Now, these three items were the deficient in their latest attempt to intimidate me into acquiescing to their unlawful demands. Thankfully, Judge Brown saw through their charade and held their feet to the fire.
Now, let’s be clear that I don’t disagree with the title of this next section. I think that it is easily understood that any Court has the authority to enforce its own lawful orders. As an example, Mexico has the right to enforce its own lawful orders, within its own jurisdiction. Come to think of it, so does California. Even the Ninth Circuit Court can enforce its own awful orders, within its jurisdiction. Now, the Ninth Circuit, coincidently, includes both Oregon and California. However, the Oregon District, while fully able to enforce its lawful orders, within its own jurisdiction, but not in Mexico, or California.
Let’s see what the big wigs in Portland have to say.
I. The Court Has Authority to Enforce Its Own Lawful Orders
This Court has authority to enjoin the actions of non-parties under the existing terms of the protective order when those non-parties aid and abet parties to violate the court’s order. See, e.g., Reebok Int’l Ltd v. McLaughlin, 49 F.3d 1387, 1390 (9th Cir. 1995) (noting that courts have authority and subject matter jurisdiction to punish contemptuous violations of its order, citing 18 U.S.C. § 401); Inst. of Cetacean Research v. Sea Shepherd Conservation Soc’y, 774 F.3d 935, 948 (9th Cir. 2014) (organization that aids and abets a party’s violation warrants contempt). This rule makes sense because it seeks to correct both direct and indirect or circuitous violations of this Court’s orders. To permit a party to publicly disseminate material subject to this Court’s Protective Order simply by transferring it to a non-party would violate the Order no less starkly than if the party posted the material on a public website himself.
From the “Background Facts”, in Reebok Int’l Ltd v. McLaughlin, we find:
Reebok International Limited brought suit against Byron McLaughlin for violations of the Lanham Act in allegedly counterfeiting Reebok footwear. Mr. McLaughlin controlled various corporations, including the Heatherdale Corporation. As a result of the lawsuit, Reebok obtained a temporary restraining order in the district court which enjoined “the defendants and their officers, servants, employees and agents and any persons in active concert or participation with them” from “transferring, disposing of, or secreting any money, stocks, or other assets of these defendants without prior approval of the court.”
Well, that does remind me of the constitutional authority granted under the Commerce Clause, and it is understandable that this clause would also extend to all of the federal jurisdictions of the United States. But, heck, we are not talking about a constitutional law under the Commerce Clause; we are talking about a jurisdictional order within in a specific jurisdiction, to wit, District of Oregon.
So, let’s look at Cetacean Research v. Sea Shepherd Conservation Soc’y. Now, from the “Factual and Procedural Background” of that decision:
The International Convention for the Regulation of Whaling, to which the United States, Japan, and 87 other nations are signatories, authorizes whale hunting when conducted in compliance with a research permit issued by a signatory. See Int’l Conv. for the Regulation of Whaling, art. VIII, § 1, Dec. 2, 1946, 62 Stat. 1716, 161 U.N.T.S. 74.
Well, it is not Mexico, it is Japan. And, it appears that the President and the Senate have the authority to treat (make treaties) with other nations, which would be a constitutional grant that would be binding on all whalers. However, it does not apply to whiners, only whalers. So, I guess they missed the mark, once again — unless I am missing something.
Now to that last point made above, I find it rather intriguing, though perhaps a bit circular in its application. It says, “To permit a party to publicly disseminate material subject to this Court’s Protective Order simply by transferring it to a non-party would violate the Order no less starkly than if the party posted the material on a public website himself.”
What was just stated is on point to what I have said. It is the person subject to the Order that would be guilty of transferring it to a non-party. It says nothing about any guilt associated to the non-party. This leaves us with the classic question, “Where’s Waldo?” Surely, they do not think that I am Waldo, or they would have said so.
In addition, Hunt did receive advance notice of this Court’s Order and, as explained in Agent Walker’s Affidavit in Support of Motion to Enforce Protective Order (ECF No. 1681), Hunt recognized this Court’s Order but refused to follow it, incorrectly believing that it did notapply to him. The contemptuous postings, however, make clear that the material Hunt now holds is material subject to this Court’s Protective Order and that Hunt has disseminated that information in contravention of this Court’s Order. Hunt’s stated reason for “outing” the CHSs is so they can serve as defense witnesses at the next trial. The reasons undergirding this Court’s Protective Order—i.e., a need to protect the informants from harm—justifies immediate relief in the form of an injunction directing Hunt to remove all contemptuous postings immediately. In addition, the need for immediate relief is supported by Agent Walker’s supplemental affidavit filed in support of this supplemental memorandum, which suggests that Hunt’s contemptuous activities are ongoing. In a Facebook post regarding the FBI’s February 5, 2017, visit to Gary Hunt to serve the cease and desist letter, a person asks “who is Gary Hunt?” On defendant Duane Ehmer’s Facebook account a response is posted, “He is working with our lawyers.”
When they say, “In addition, Hunt did receive advance notice of this Court’s Order“, presumably, they really mean the Protective Order. This case has generated many dozens of orders, so, perhaps a little specificity might be warranted. After all, it is very apparent that a word and the meaning of that word, really does have a place in our language, and especially so, with regard to our laws and legal proceedings.
And, yes, I did have advance notice of the Protective Order. Well, it wasn’t really notice; actually, I had obtained a copy, way back in March. I read it. I have reread it. I have read it over and over. And, I still cannot seem to find where it applies to me. Perhaps that is why the Honorable Judge Brown has placed the burden on the US Attorney to, as per the Minute Order, which states,
“1. The Courts authority to enjoin the actions of a third party under the existing terms of the Protective Orderand without advance notice to the third party and an opportunity for that third party to be heard” (from above). Well, there are two parts to that Order. The first is to show “The Courts authority to enjoin the actions of a third party under the existing terms of the Protective Order“.
So, unless we can get that nasty little bugger out of the way, we need not even consider the second part, “without advance notice to the third party and an opportunity for that third party to be heard”
Now, when the Order says, “to be heard“, I’m sure that the Order is referring to before the Court. Although, there can be little doubt that I am being heard, loud and clear, outside of the courtroom. I trust, however, that the US Attorney is not attempting to suppress the Freedom of the Press and the right of the public to know is not to be pushed to the wayside, in favor of government secrecy. And, we haven’t even begun to discuss Roviaro, yet.
Then, the US Attorney asserts, “Hunt recognized this Court’s Order but refused to follow it, incorrectly believing that it did not apply to him.” Now, that is rather interesting. They suggest that I “recognized this Court’s Order“. I’m not sure what they mean by recognized. I recognize some people by their faces, others by their voices, and still others by their writing style. I suppose if I was subject to “this Court’s” jurisdiction, and was placed on the stand, then handed a copy of the Protective Order, I would most assuredly and truthfully say that I recognized the Protective Order. But, nobody has handed me a copy and asked if I recognized it, so I don’t see the point. However, perhaps the phraseology is a bit off, if they mean did I read and understand what it said, I would have no problem saying, “Yes, I have read it, and, I understand that I am not listed in those to whom it is directed”.
Then, the US Attorney suggests that I was incorrect in believing that it didn’t apply to me. Wait a minute. Don’t put words in my mouth. I know that it doesn’t apply to me. Perhaps law schools are deficient in teaching grammar, but, hey, buddy, have no doubt that words, their meanings, and application, are well known and understood by me. I do believe that it is a burden on the government to prove, not just state, such conjecture.
So, now we get to “The contemptuous postings“. That is a rather subjective observation. It seems that my readers have a completely different perspective on the nature of my postings. So, we can simply write that off as either extreme bias, or, more colloquially, “butt-hurt”.
My next observation is based upon the statement that seems to suggest that my postings, “make clear that the material Hunt now holds is material subject to this Court’s Protective Order“. I suppose that since I cited what was written on the documents, and explained, should any reader doubt the veracity regarding the content of the documents, that my statement gave the necessary legitimacy to the documents. However, had I known that I would also be writing these articles, on this subject, I could have saved some ink, because the US Attorney has given far more credibility to the document than my humble statement ever could.
Next, we come to, “Hunt has disseminated“. Damn that is quite an obstacle. Is it disseminated, or published, or disseminated and published. Obfuscation is really a brainteaser. However, I prefer what was really done, which is that I excerpted from the documents.
Moving right along, and probably boring the readers, as the colloquy is also beginning to bore me, we get into some rather interesting stuff. As I made clear in “Burns Chronicles No 50 – Informants – What to do About Them #2‘, the US Attorney referred to Roviaro v. United States, 353 U.S. 53 (1957) (Gee, I get my turn to cite a case). In Roviaro, the court ruled that since there was an extreme risk of great harm or death to the informants, the Court was justified in not releasing the names of the informants. After all, buying heroin and then “narcing” can get you killed. Drug dealers are well known for the predisposition to kill people, with either guns, knives, or bad drugs. However, that is a somewhat ridiculous justification, especially after the Group 1 Portland trial, to continue to hold those who remain in jail on similar charges in Nevada, pending their trial. After all, many of the defendants in Nevada were/are also defendants there, in Oregon.
Let’s just look at how the government perceives the risk to the informants. On September 21, 2016, AUSA Gabriel, in questioning OSP officer Jeremiah Beckert, asked, “And did you have information about whether the driver [Mark McConnell] was cooperating with the Government?” Beckert answered in the affirmative, and of their own volition, the government hung one of their informants out to face, what, serious bodily harm? Death? Well, that didn’t happen.
Next, in early October, Terri Linnell, who, according to the government’s position regarding informant, did so at great risk to life and limb, voluntarily come forward to testify for the defendants. Then, on the last day of the trial, we have Fabio Monoggio, who managed to buy himself some body armor, for his own “protection in a dangerous situation”, and at government expense, testified to the detriment of the government’s case. Monoggio, because of his role, would be equally at risk with the previously outed McConnell, yet neither has had a hair on their head harmed.
Outside of the courtroom, however, there was a different story going on. On October 15, 2016, yours truly exposed Allen Varner as an informant. The next day, October 16, Dennis Dickenson was exposed as an informant. Two months later, in December, Robert “Rob” Seaver, Thomas “Tom” S. Dyman, and Will Kullman, were exposed. And, since the first exposure by the government and the remainder by me, not one hair, on one head, has been harmed. Doesn’t that make Roviaro rather off point to the remaining defendants, in both states? As they say, the proof is in the pudding. And, this pudding has quite a story to tell.
Finally, nearly through with that rather boring paragraph, we finish with this gem:
In a Facebook post regarding the FBI’s February 5, 2017, visit to Gary Hunt to serve the cease and desist letter, a person asks “who is Gary Hunt?” On defendant Duane Ehmer’s Facebook account a response is posted, “He is working with our lawyers.”
Now, I have known Duane Ehmer since January 27, 2016. That is really an easy date to remember, as the only act of violence in this whole ordeal was the murder of LaVoy Finicum. However, I have spoken with Duane. Why he said what he did is beyond me. Perhaps he wanted to act as if he had inside information. However, where we should be looking is at SA Ronnie Walker, who prepared the Affidavit. So, the real question is, “Is the FBI incapable of contacting Duane Ehmer?” If so, why didn’t they get corroboration, elsewhere, as far as to the veracity of his statements. Have they learned to accept as fact statements on Facebook? If so, the hundred million dollars that they have spent on this persecution is just lining pockets, and not serving justice.
For the record, I have never spoken with any defense attorney or investigator. The closest I have come to that is speaking with some of the defendants. However, I have heard that the defense attorneys do like my work, and some even look forward to my next article. I also know that the government players read my work, though I doubt that they neither enjoy nor look forward to my next article. And, that is the way that it should be.
So, let’s move on. We are getting close to the end.
Whether Hunt should be subject to sanctions and/or held in civil or criminal contempt are matters that should be addressed after Hunt has an opportunity to be heard. Autotech Tech. LP v. Integral Research & Dev. Corp., 499 F.3d 737, 746-47 (7th Cir. 2007).
Darn, I already said that I am being heard. Let’s see what Autotech Tech, LP v. Integral Research & Dev. Corp. says. Now, understand that this case is a bit confusing, though I will try to make it understandable. It starts with a company called Integral Research & Development Corp. (IRDC). It is a company wholly owned by the Belarusian government. The next player is Digital Devices, Inc. (DDI). Now, IRDC and DDI had an “Exclusive Sales Agreement”, a contract. Next player, Autotech Technologies LP (ATLP). In 1994, ATLP purchased from DDI the exclusive right to promote and sell IRDC’s products for resale or incorporation into products manufactured or sold in the United States; its authority was embodied in an “Exclusive Marketing Agreement.” IRDC authorized the transfer of rights from DDI to ATLP through an “Acknowledgment and Modification of Agreement”. Well, that is the foundation. There were contracts, the contracts were agreed to. In a subsequent dispute between ATLP and IRDC, IRDC challenged jurisdiction. IRDC lost, but they lost because they had a contractual arrangement with ATLP.
Now, this case is cited under the “I. The Court Has Authority to Enforce Its Own Lawful Orders” heading. I don’t see where it fits into that subject, but in the above paragraph, the government says, “Whether Hunt should be subject to sanctions and/or held in civil or criminal contempt are matters that should be addressed after Hunt has an opportunity to be heard.” So, maybe it has to deal with my right to be heard. So, we can look to the only mention of the word heard, in the entire aforementioned Autotech case.
Before Integral can be barred either by law-of-the-case principles or something analogous to issue preclusion, it must have had a fair opportunity to be heard in the contempt proceeding.
I have no contractual arrangement with the Oregon District Court. I have not asked “for a fair opportunity to be heard“. However, it seems that to be heard is my prerogative, if I choose to exercise it. Under the current circumstances, I see no reason in the world to step into the jurisdictional world of the Oregon District.
If it is possible for a journalist to be held in contempt of court for the mere act of excerpting segments of unclassified material from the discovery of a public trial, then this country is in a lot more trouble, and closer to a true police state, than I have ever imagined.
Sometimes, I wonder if these guys even read the cases they cite, or just jump on a case because they think it will sound impressive.
II. The Court Has Jurisdiction to Enforce Its Order Beyond the District of Oregon
This Court’s authority to effectuate its own orders extends beyond the usual reach of this Court’s subpoena power to the entire country. For example, when a party transferred assets to a non-party in violation of a court order, the non-parties who resided outside of the district court’s jurisdiction (in Texas) were nevertheless subject to that court’s jurisdiction (in Mississippi); indeed, enforcement of the injunction “must occur in the issuing court’s jurisdiction because contempt is an affront to the court issuing the order.” Waffenschmidt v. McKay, 763 F.2d 711, 716 (5th Cir. 1985); see also Static Control Components, Inc. v. Darkprint Imaging, 201 F.R.D. 431, 433-34 (M.D.N.C. 2001) (rejecting argument that to enforce discovery order, party had to file motion in non-party’s judicial district); Platinum Air Charters, LLC v. Aviation Ventures, Inc., No. 2:05-cv-01451-RCJ-LRL, 2007 WL 121674 , *3 (D. Nev. Jan. 10, 2007) (same).
Now, we get into “subpoena power” and violation of a court order. However, the order in this one is directed at the party subpoenaed, and, there is aiding and abetting the completion of that crime. Let’s look at the first part of the decision in Waffenschmidt v. McKay.
Nonparties who reside outside the territorial jurisdiction of a district court may be subject to that court’s jurisdiction if, with actual notice of the court’s order, they actively aid and abet a party in violating that order.
So, just what is “aid and abet”? Black’s Law Dictionary provides the answer:
Help, assist, or facilitate the commission of a crime, promote the accomplishment thereof, help in advancing or bringing it about, or encourage, counsel, or incite as to its commission.
Now, I have yet to see anything presented by the US Attorney that might even remotely bear a resemblance to that definition. I was the recipient of some information. I explained why it was not criminal to excerpt, as opposed to disseminate, and, my possession of the material was not criminal, as I was not among those listed who were subject to the Protective Order.
As to the next two cited decisions, they are both District Court decisions. They are not stare decisis. That means that they are not precedence. There is no reliance on them by other courts. So, it appears that the government has fallen into a belief that quantity beats quality, and they have just thrown those in so as to increase the quantity, but none of these cases bear any aspect of quality.
Now, before we get into the last of the three items, I think it worth mentioning, at least to the subject of giving out information that the Court has determined should not be given out, or vice versa, and, yes, they are on the side of the courtroom that is subject to Court Orders. Let me provide some quotes from an Oregonian article, “Oregon standoff: Defense lawyer argues feds ‘wantonly disregarded’ terms of Facebook search warrant“. This had to do with the government giving out irrelevant Facebook information that they were told to remove from Discovery, prior to dissemination.“…the federal government “wantonly disregarded” the terms of the search warrant, and [Per Olson] accused government representatives of “hiding the ball.” The warrant called for investigators to separate relevant from irrelevant Facebook account information, and then secure the irrelevant material. “It also shows an utter lack of respect for the process for the seizure and securing” of private Facebook communications,” Olson argued. He argued that no one in the FBI took their responsibility seriously to safeguard this material.“
I’m just confounded how they ought to be allowed to do that,” Olson said.” I hate to use the word lie, your Honor, but somebody did.”
Consider that the government seemed to have no concern when, well, they screwed up. But, isn’t what’s good for the goose also good for the gander?
Finally:
III. The Court Should Expand the Protective Order
Finally, in the ordinary case, all parties comply with court orders. This has proven to be an extraordinary case; therefore, if this Court were to revisit the terms of its existing Protective Order, further language specifically addressing the Court’s intent to ensure compliance with its orders for both direct and indirect violations—wherever they may occur—would be appropriate.
Here, the government suggests that the Court extend its authority beyond its lawful reach, in both jurisdiction and persona. I suppose that since judicial activism by higher courts, to make laws that were never intended by the Legislative Branch, has a new birth in lower courts. Now, the US Attorney is suggesting not only that this Court can legislate, that it can do contrary to the case law submitted by the Prosecutor in the Memorandum. Then, they apparently want to go one step further to enact an Order (law) to prohibit what I have done, not in violation of the existing Order, but will be guilty of if Judge Brown simply waves a wand and changes the wording of the existing Order, making me, ex post facto, in violation of the Order and subject to punishment, therefore.
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