Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
Adverse possession is not agreeable possession. If the BLM agreed there would be no dispute.
Levant et couchant means you spent the night and woke up to see the morning sun. This French phrase is generally applied to neighbors domestic animals that come to visit but it applies to the neighbor as well.
Had I been the BLM manager I believe I would have sent Mr Bundy a nice offer which he couldn't refuse ... that his rights to graze were established by long usage but extended to him only during his lifetime. Nothing inheritable in the grazing right. 'Course this would simply be an offer. They seem more intent upon establishing his adverse possession though and have done a fairly good job of providing evidence of it.
Rights are highly transitory. If you fail to assert them then you have none.
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Ramona Hage Morrison (cousin to my brother's wife) quotes Federal Judge "BLM engaged in criminal conspiracy"
http://youtu.be/vooz--PPHQ8
http://youtu.be/vooz--PPHQ8
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monty
On Jan. 16 the 9th Circuit Court overturned this decision and remanded the case back to the District Court stipulating it must be heard by a different judge.
Wayne Hage is a pro se defendant. I believe he is challenging the Court's constitutional authority to take jurisdiction.
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thanks monty for the updates
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Donald Trump Presidential Campaign Leader… ARRESTED!
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In unexpected news, Tea Party activist and Co-Chairman of Veterans for Donald Trump has been arrested!
Jerry Deemus is in trouble with Federal authorities for his alleged connections to Cliven Bundy, and faces 9 charges, including conspiracy to commit an offense against the U.S., threatening and assault of a federal law enforcement officer, extortion, and firearm charges!
He is scheduled to be arraigned later today in U.S. District Court in Concord.
The 64-page indictment cites DeLemus as one of eight defendants who “planned, organized, led, and/or participated as gunmen in the assault, all in order to threaten, intimidate, and extort the officers into abandoning approximately 400 head of cattle that were in their lawful care and custody.”
Court papers describe DeLemus as a “mid-level leader and organizer of the conspiracy,” who recruited, organized, trained and gave logistical support to gunmen and followers. He is alleged to have been a leader and organizer of armed patrols and security checkpoints on the Nevada ranch. DeLemus first traveled from New Hampshire to Nevada on April 10, 2014.
The indictment stems from the massive armed assault against federal law enforcement officers in and around Bunkerville, Nev., on April 12, 2014, which court records refer to as a conspiracy to thwart the seizure and removal of Cliven Bundy’s cattle from federal public lands. Bundy was under a federal court order to remove his cattle from the public lands since 1998. Two more court orders came in 2013, when led to an impoundment process and armed standoff and alleged assault.
Via New Hampshire Union Leader
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What do you think about Deemus’ arrest? Please leave us a comment (below) and tell us what you think.
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monty
Donald Trump Presidential Campaign Leader… ARRESTED!
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/w...6/03/1tr-1.jpg
In unexpected news, Tea Party activist and Co-Chairman of Veterans for Donald Trump has been arrested!
Jerry Deemus is in trouble with Federal authorities for his alleged connections to Cliven Bundy, and faces 9 charges, including conspiracy to commit an offense against the U.S., threatening and assault of a federal law enforcement officer, extortion, and firearm charges!
He is scheduled to be arraigned later today in U.S. District Court in Concord.
The 64-page indictment cites DeLemus as one of eight defendants who “planned, organized, led, and/or participated as gunmen in the assault, all in order to threaten, intimidate, and extort the officers into abandoning approximately 400 head of cattle that were in their lawful care and custody.”
Court papers describe DeLemus as a “mid-level leader and organizer of the conspiracy,” who recruited, organized, trained and gave logistical support to gunmen and followers. He is alleged to have been a leader and organizer of armed patrols and security checkpoints on the Nevada ranch. DeLemus first traveled from New Hampshire to Nevada on April 10, 2014.
The indictment stems from the massive armed assault against federal law enforcement officers in and around Bunkerville, Nev., on April 12, 2014, which court records refer to as a conspiracy to thwart the seizure and removal of Cliven Bundy’s cattle from federal public lands. Bundy was under a federal court order to remove his cattle from the public lands since 1998. Two more court orders came in 2013, when led to an impoundment process and armed standoff and alleged assault.
Via New Hampshire Union Leader
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/w...16/03/33-1.jpg
What do you think about Deemus’ arrest? Please leave us a comment (below) and tell us what you think.
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/prominent-trump-campaign-leader-arrested/?utm_source=SailThru%26utm_newsletter&utm_medium=e mail&utm_campaign=TPI%20Newsletter%2003-04-16%20Tier%201&utm_term=Tier%201
My shocked face :-O
The government Brownshirts trying to discredit Trump any way they can.
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Cliven Bundy makes initial federal court appearance in Las Vegas
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Cliven Bundy takes a moment to ponder a question from a supporter during the Bundy Ranch Liberty Celebration near Bunkerville on Saturday, April, 11, 2015.
By Ken Ritter, Associated Press
Published Friday, March 4, 2016 | 4:19 p.m.
Updated Friday, March 4, 2016 | 8:26 p.m.
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MULTNOMAH COUNTY, ORE., SHERIFF''S OFFICE / AP
This Wednesday, Feb. 10, 2016, booking photo provided by the Multnomah County, Ore., Sheriff''s office shows Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy.
The renegade rancher at the center of a states'-versus-federal rights fight made his first appearance in custody before a U.S. judge in Las Vegas on Friday, but wasn't asked to enter a plea.
Similar federal court hearings were held in Idaho and Utah, a day after authorities rounded up 12 people in five states, raising to 19 the number accused of inciting and leading an armed insurrection in April 2014 to stop a roundup of cows from public land near Cliven Bundy's ranch.
Bundy, 69, stood with a deputy federal public defender at his side as he heard the 16 charges against him including conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, assault on a federal officer, threatening a federal officer, obstruction of justice, interference with interstate commerce by extortion and several firearms charges.
Asked by the judge if he could afford to hire an attorney, Bundy said he hadn't had a chance to talk with anyone about that.
He was returned in custody in recent days to Nevada from Oregon, where he'd been held following his arrest Feb. 10 as he arrived at Portland International Airport to visit two of his sons jailed during the occupation of a federal wildlife refuge.
U.S. Magistrate Judge Carl Hoffman said Bundy would remain in custody until at least next Thursday. The time will let him hire a lawyer or file revised financial disclosure forms.
The judge expressed doubt about whether a report that Bundy filed in Oregon qualifies him for a lawyer at federal expense.
"I don't think it is entirely complete, from what I know about this case," he said.
Bundy has a 160-acre ranch and melon farm in Bunkerville, about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. A descendant of Mormon settlers who heads a family of 14 children and more than 50 grandchildren, he claims homestead rights and refuses to acknowledge federal authority over arid Virgin River valley rangeland around his property.
He has represented himself in previous local, state and federal legal proceedings.
The 2014 showdown came after federal land managers obtained federal court orders to remove Bundy cows from environmentally fragile public land in the scenic and rugged Gold Butte area. The area is pocked with scrub brush, mesquite, cheat grass and yucca.
Federal agents and contract cowboys herding cattle toward a corral were stopped by a picket line of self-styled militia perched on a high Interstate 15 bridge, pointing military-style AR-15 and AK-47 weapons at them.
Officials said at the time that Bundy owed more than $1.1 million in fees and penalties for grazing illegally for about 20 years. A more recent accounting hasn't been made public.
The battle with the federal Bureau of Land Management made Bundy and several of his adult sons well-known as outspoken advocates for states' rights.
The dispute predates statehood in some places, and calls for action have gotten louder as federal agencies designate protected areas for endangered species and set aside tracts for mining, wind farms and natural gas exploration.
The latest wave has roots in the Sagebrush Rebellion, which began more than 40 years ago over grazing rights in Nevada.
The arrests on Thursday of 12 alleged co-conspirators in Arizona, Utah, Idaho, Oklahoma and New Hampshire came after a federal grand jury in Las Vegas expanded an indictment filed Feb. 11 against Bundy.
It also named Bundy sons Ammon, Ryan, Melvin and David Bundy, and four other men already in federal custody following the end of the 41-day standoff at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in eastern Oregon. They are Ryan Payne of Montana, Peter Santilli Jr. of Cincinnati, and Brian Cavalier and Blaine Cooper, both of Arizona.
"They're just rounding up all of us," said Susan Hardy, a Bundy relative from Mesquite, Nevada, who attended David Bundy's court appearance in U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City.
"We're just standing for America. We're standing for our freedom," she said.
© Las Vegas Sun, 2016, All Rights Reserved
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Similar federal court hearings were held in Idaho and Utah, a day after authorities rounded up 12 people in five states, raising to 19 the number accused of inciting and leading an armed insurrection in April 2014 to stop a roundup of cows from public land near Cliven Bundy's ranch.
Hmmm.....so his cows were on public land after having permission to be on that public land which of course could be legally revoked at any time (and was). So the moron leads and incited an armed rebellion to stop his property from being rounded up on public land.
Poor little Mr. Bundy...he wanted his cake and eat it too.
Look what greed got him......16 charges in a federal court........equals dumb ass of the year!!!
Its not like the government didnt tell him before hand to get his cows in order.....he chose to ignore them orders to remove his property. He had it good getting free grazing for his cow on public land until that contract was fullfilled and executed by the government.
Stupid is what stupid does........jail his ass and through the key away.
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7th trump
...and through the key away.
Geee ... you were on such a good rant and then had to blow it all because you don't know how to spell THROW!!!
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palani
Geee ... you were on such a good rant and then had to blow it all because you don't know how to spell THROW!!!
You should know by now that accuracy is the least of his concerns.
