Kamma: Acts of intention resulting in becoming and birth
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Kamma: Acts of intention resulting in becoming and birth
I must run, but while I was getting ready to head out the door, I wanted to share one more thought before I run.
I have noticed throughout my life that MEN are much much more better at releasing their ego than women are.
A million times better at it then women. I'm not bashing women ! I am a woman ! Let me explain....
This is a male dominant forum so I hope this helps the men understand themselves a little better.
Men are simple creatures. They really are. They generally take pride in their work & like to keep busy doing productive things,
generally don't care all that much how they look every second of the day and generally will help people everywhere. Even if you don't think you're that type of man,
generally men are. They don't expect much back in return except from their wife/girlfriend. They want love, support, friendship, partner etc.
If they have that, they're generally good .
However, since most women on this planet are ego centered & only think about ME ME and ME and what you can do for ME ME and ME,
the men tend to get hard & tough & get surrounded by stuff like this from their wife " Well if you do this for me or that for me, THEN I'll
do this or that for you "
The men get controlled and then end up living in a constant POWER STRUGGLE.
Women are the ones who cannot give up their ego.
Now look at the women on this board. Very, very few women here. These ladies are ALL VERY VERY UNIQUE & different.
They want no power here, they contribute their love & wisdom without expecting to be bowed down to.
Now on another gold silver forum (AHEM, clears throat for a second) I have seen some woman's EGO very STRONGLY.
So my point is, is that the ego thing is a learned negative behavior .
And once people just live in peace with themselves and get rid of their negative beliefs & behaviors then it is much much easier to do more to help mankind freely instead of wanting /expecting something back.
Look at children. My little one fills up her little red wagon with an over abundance of veggies from the garden & wheels it down the road passing out her goods to neighbors just for fun. She doesn't want anything in return. She forgot that she even did it the next day.
Expect nothing back ever. If you get a good feeling in your heart. That's not selfish or self-interest.
It's not a material thing. That is your gift, free.
Vacuum, this is very interesting. What are spiritless humans?Quote:
It follows that karma does not exist for two types of individuals: spiritless humans for whom it serves no purposes since any lessons they receive dissolve along with their consciousness upon death, and highly STS individuals who are on a negative evolutionary path and have no need for a corrective mechanism that teaches them to be ‘good.’ Thus the world is full of seemingly wicked people who never receive their comeuppance. Karma is not a moral thing, but an evolutionary catalyst for those who need it.
And also, what are highly STS individuals? I have no idea what STS refers to.
A spiritless human(color of man)?? would be a fictitious entity such as a corporation, no?
Or a man made creation such as an automaton or robot or machine or something?
I'm finding it difficult to understand how a man or woman imbued with life from birth can exist without spirit, since as I understand it, spirit is the origin of life, the general intent behind conscious Life.
In other words, a man who exists without spirit, going by my current interpretation, would be non living. Maybe these creatures are something like Doppelgangers, or the Dark matter equivalent of conscious life or something?
Anyway, the idea of spiritless humans sure gave me a WTF moment.
At the danger of possibly offending some people and getting in trouble, I'm going to throw these definitions out there. (I hope those who aren't interested in this subject aren't reading this thread....)
OHL:
Ego
An artificial intelligence in the soul and brain that helps a being operate more successfully within a particular environment. The environment programs the ego into the soul through the intellect. Beings like plants and lower animals who lack intellect also lack egos.
When the ego is an instrument of Spirit, it provides an individuality and personality through which Spirit can accomplish its purpose in the physical realm. In that case the ego takes a large part of its programming from Spirit, as it’s partially operating in a spiritual context and thus a spiritual internal environment.
When the ego breaks away from Spirit, or if Spirit is absent, then the ego becomes solely a product of the physical environment and picks up all the traits of physical living – survival and competition primarily. Then it starts exploiting others for the sake of self gain. Lying, deception, manipulation, delusion — these are the properties of ego if left unchecked by Spirit. Ego removed from Spirit is the foundation of the STS pathway.
But it is as much an error to annihilate the ego, because then one becomes ineffectual in this world, unable to carry out the mission of Spirit with discernment, vigor, togetherness, and focus. Rather, the ego must be conquered and reprogrammed, refined and sharpened, to act in accordance with the impulse of Spirit.
Here's a definition Santa:Quote:
Originally Posted by Santa
The term denotes a person who has mind, body, and soul but lacks spirit. They are lacking the heart, crown, and third eye chakras since these are only uplinks to a spirit, which in their case is nonexistent. Therefore they are permanently incapable of experiencing genuine empathy or having sincere interest in anything outside material pursuits. They comprise the majority of psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists, and robotic background characters that pad the population.
And STS:
STS
Service to Self. A metaphysical orientation where one serves self by exploiting and manipulating others, reducing their freewill to increase one’s own. Overall this creates a freewill imbalance. STS systems are closed systems, meaning they have to take material and energy from one place to feed another. Thus survival and competition, overpowering the weak, violence, and manipulation arise.
The most basic manifestation of STS is having to take life in order to live. We are all STS in our current human state, due to our genetics and environment causing it to be so. However, we are not all evolving in the STS direction. To be STS in a basic sense, but be committed toward living according to STO principles, is the best we can do in our 3D state. By pursuing this sufficiently, we can transform into Fourth Density STO eventually. By doing the opposite and sufficiently pursuing STS, one can likewise graduate into 4D STS existence.
A game of chess, the ego placed in check, while the sum of the game goes about what is.Quote:
Originally Posted by sirgonzo420
Is that a vacuum original? If so, consider me impressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by vacuum
I have always thought the ego was sort of a bad thing. When I think of ego, I think of a guy who cannot let another person pass him on the highway. (I actually know people like this.) I think of people who refuse to accept new information that could change their beliefs. The ego, to me, is greedy and closed minded. From your definition, it seems that what I have always thought of as the ego is one that is broken from the spirit.
To me you're describing "Lost souls," not souls that lack spirit,Quote:
The term denotes a person who has mind, body, and soul but lacks spirit.
but people who have forgotten they are the manifestation of spirit. They have become lost in the magnitude of life and
equate the sensation of being lost to that of being alone.
There is nothing more frightening in material existence to a
conscious soul than the certainty of being absolutely alone,
because it highlights the existential question, what then is the point of existence, but self?"
Imagine empty space, with nothing in it at all except two spheres. If a sphere moves, how can you tell which one moved?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe King
No, I'm not the originator. I agree with those definitions though.Quote:
Originally Posted by k-os
The "lost souls" you talk about, which have lost connection to the spirit, account for the vast majority of people with spirits (almost all of them). Reconnecting with the spirit is kind of like growing, but unlike your body and natural cognitive growth, nature doesn't do this automatically. It takes focused and sustained effort, and is what is known as being "born again" and other names.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santa
People without spirits are different - they can't go down that path. Their purpose is to learn, as a group, from those who do have them. For those with spirits, their purpose is to provide resistance in life to provide an environment for development (because without resistance there can't be development).
Without connection to your spirit (vast majority), or if you don't have one, being alone is indeed the most scary thing possible. The reason for this is because, as mentioned above, you are mostly just artificial intelligence and require interaction with those around you to appear real. You reflect the emotions around you, etc. Once connection is made with the spirit, you have everything you need inside of you, and don't require anything else.
I've been reading this discussion with great interest, but haven't had anything to contribute until now. I guess I let the ideas "percolate" until all of this sort of "distilled out" and became evident to me:
In this collectivist/socialist/controlled society, we are taught from the time we are VERY young that it is BAD to be more than just superficially concerned with ourselves and our own needs. We are taught that altruism (living for the benefit of others) is the highest ideal to which a human being can aspire, and that "pride", "selfishness" and "ego" are negative things that should be avoided. As I stated in my previous post, this type of indoctrination is highly treasured by TPTB, they WANT a population stripped of their sense of self, because such a population is EASY to manipulate through guilt, appealing to "communal" instincts, and taking advantage of charitable urges.
I am an egoist. I am unashamed and proudly proclaim it... because I ALSO have quite a bit of pride. I see pride as a virtue (when earned through proper action, not fantasies of greatness) and something that builds a person up, not a vice. I have a very strong sense of who I am, what I have accomplished in my life, and what my values, needs, and strengths are. Does this mean that I'm the kind of guy who cuts people off on the highway, jumps ahead of everyone in lines, and would claw my way to the top of a bloody hill of corpses to sieze power and be worshipped? Of COURSE NOT! Those are the marks of a diseased mind, the actions of a SELF-AGGRANDIZING individual - someone who has increased their own sense of who they are beyond what has been established by the facts of their existence and actions. I think that due to this society's social programming, the actions and nature of this type of person is OFTEN confused with "ego", even though the connection is superficial. Ego is the sense of self, a person's concept of who and what they are. Nothing more, nothing less.
I like who I am. I am proud of the things I've accomplished in my life. This is NOT a bad thing. Now all the metaphysicists will pile in (as programmed to do...) and tell me how I'm an insignificant speck of dust in a vast whirling universe beyond comprehension, and that my existence is short and unmemorable in the "big" scheme of things, blah blah blah. I reply SO FUCKING WHAT? I'm not running for the position of God, I have no illusions about my existence and what it represents in the big scheme of things! I live a harmless life, I treat other people the way I would like to be (though rarely am...) treated myself. I've contributed SOMETHING to the lives of the people I've come across in this brief life, and created an existence for myself that is comfortable and interesting without using the expedients of fraud and coercion. In the "big picture" or "long run" or whatever you want to call it, isn't that the only thing that's truly worth striving for anyway?
Too much confusion of terms when people talk about these concepts... by deliberate design, I'm sure. :o