Ron Paul and Delegates: The ONLY thing that matters - Official Thread

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Originally Posted by Sui Juris

Agreed.

Things like Political Parties, wedge issues and voting are all a thin vinear to keep the people from sticking to REALITY, MORALS and TRUTH. Who cares about the future of the GOP? Who cares about the fucking GOP at all? FUCK!!!!!

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Ignoring reality has it's penalties. Number one penalty is you lose.

I come from a large family of Republicans and it doesn't matter who the republicans run they will vote for whoever the Republicans endorse. I have voted 3rd party since I first voted for Ron Paul in 88. I have banged on doors put up yard signs worked really hard to get people elected. I think our best showing was around 8 percent in Minnesota the year that Jesse got in. He was running on another ticket, but the voters were real unhappy with the status quo.

I thought it was a no-brainer vote for liberty, but voters proved me wrong every year, it truly was a no brainer as in no thinking pull the demopublican lever for xxx.

We can take over the Republican party we just have to show up. The off year caucuses are where the party officials are elected.

I know you are all disappointed and I am too, but life goes on.

RP is a fuckwad... I want my $525.00 back.

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Originally Posted by Cebu_4_2

RP is a fuckwad... I want my $525.00 back.

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Rand or Ron?

The future looks to be more annoying than it currently is.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/im....paul.jan2.jpg
"UM............................................... ..............................SUMTIN I GOTTA TELL YA' PAW"

http://www.graphicsgrotto.com/emotic...rolleyes11.gif

Lawyers for Ron Paul taking over the campaign?

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...35553&cmd=apop

"..we are in it to win it and nothing less..."

Talk about Jesse Benton. He signed a letter allowing the Repub party to assist Romney.
Talking about Doug Weed.
Fed up with campaign lack of action.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/06/15/47495.htm

More Delegates Want to Join Republican Revolt


By REBEKAH KEARN

SANTA ANA, Calif. (CN) - In a revolt against Romney, at least 40 more national convention delegates asked to join 123 previous plaintiffs in a lawsuit against the Republican National Committee, and their attorney said hundreds more may soon follow suit.

The first 123 delegates, all from the 9th Circuit, sued the RNC, its Chairman Rince Priebus, and every state party chairman in the 9th Circuit in Federal Court on Monday, demanding the right to vote for the candidate of their choice on every ballot at the Republican National Convention, including the first.

The delegates claim the party violated federal law by forcing them to sign loyalty affidavits, under threat of perjury, to vote for Mitt Romney, though he is not yet the official nominee.
They also claimed that state party chairmen are fixing elections at state conventions and changing ballots so that all votes cast count for Romney.
"When nominating someone for a federal office, all delegates must be free to vote their conscience," Richard Gilbert, of Gilbert & Marlowe, attorney for the delegates, told Courthouse News in an interview Thursday.

"They don't want to be bound to any candidate, or even be forced to vote for the nominee," Gilbert said. "To have a real convention, the delegates must have free will so that when they meet, they can persuade each other and then decide who to vote for."

Gilbert said that the public is unaware that the party is rigging elections and committing voting fraud. But he said he has more than 100 signed affidavits from delegates to support these allegations.
"Some campaigns act like organized crime syndicates - and I mean organized crime, no doubt about it," Gilbert said.

"In Arizona, the voting machines were rigged so that Ron Paul votes were counted as Mitt Romney votes. It was so intentional that a Romney delegate refused to certify the vote count, and for that he got thrown off the convention."The Party's Rule 11 prevents changing rules within 30 days of a convention, but Gilbert said that chairmen and organizers often change rules the day before a convention - and sometimes in the middle of one - to deny a quorum or rig an outcome. The delegates say in their complaint that the defendants threatened violence against those who don't support Romney, and had men in dark clothing come to conventions and physically remove people who refuse to vote for him.

"I have nothing against Romney's politics, it's his behavior," Gilbert said. "He's the one who chose to run his campaign based on intimidation and violate federal law."
Gilbert said this is the first time in 30 years that the issue has been brought before the court.
"It's really serious," he said. "People don't realize that delegates aren't chosen on the Tuesday primaries like they think.
"For example, Ron Paul got 16 of the 19 delegates in Massachusetts, which is a pretty serious vote of no-confidence in Romney from his own state, but I know that my friends and family aren't aware of this."

Gilbert said he wants to get the case heard as soon as possible so that all rightfully elected delegates are seated at the National Convention in August, and are free to vote for the candidate of their choice. "The hour is late and short, but we won't just stand by and let the Republican National Convention get away with disenfranchising voters," Gilbert said.
"I'd love to line up all the criminals and take them on a perp walk through court." The case will be heard by U.S. Judge David Carter, though no hearing dates have been set because more than 100 defendants need to be served. Gilbert described Carter as a strict judge, who is fair and honest.

"If the judge rules in our favor, I won't be surprised if three or four new candidates, say Sarah Palin, jump in and say they want to be considered," Gilbert said.
"It will be the most interesting national convention in my lifetime if the judge rules for us on this."

Legally, the case may hinge on whether the judge accepts the plaintiffs' claim that the nominating convention is a "federal" election. Courts have traditionally given the two major political parties considerable leeway in managing their own affairs, for instance, in whether state parties may hold open or closed primaries.

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Originally Posted by JohnQPublic

Lawyers for Ron Paul taking over the campaign?

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...35553&cmd=apop

"..we are in it to win it and nothing less..."

Talk about Jesse Benton. He signed a letter allowing the Repub party to assist Romney.
Talking about Doug Weed.
Fed up with campaign lack of action.

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Here's some text from the talkshoe broadcast.

Topic: A civil suit against the RNC

Guests: David Callahan operations director for Lawyers for Ron Paul
Richard Gilbert: Attorney for the delegates to the Republican National Convention, and a member of Lawyers for Ron Paul

On the phone:
"This is Richard Gilbert. I can tell you that a decision has been made by Lawyers for Ron Paul to take over the Ron Paul campaign, without the permission of the Ron Paul Campaign. It is the people's mutiny. We are forming an executive committee, within the Lawyers for Ron Paul group, and we will no longer tolerate negotiations for the surrender of the campaign in exchange for some consession on one or more planks that we find to be meaningless in a platform. And so, we are going to go around the nation and publically announce that the L.F.R.P. and its executive committee, on behalf on the volunteers, ARE FROM NOW ON FORMALLY RUNNING THE RON PAUL CAMPAIGN. WE ARE IN IT TO WIN IT AND NOTHING LESS. WE ARE GOING TO STRIP MITT ROMNEY OF ALL OF HIS DELEGATES AND RON PAUL WILL BE PUT IN NOMINATION AND WIN THE NOMINATION, AND THAT IS OUR GOAL.. AND NOTHING LESS THAN THAT AND THAT'S WHAT OUR MISSION IS.

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Originally Posted by JohnQPublic

Lawyers for Ron Paul taking over the campaign?

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...35553&cmd=apop

"..we are in it to win it and nothing less..."

Talk about Jesse Benton. He signed a letter allowing the Repub party to assist Romney.
Talking about Doug Weed.
Fed up with campaign lack of action.

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No mention of the NeoCon Bruce Fein?

Sibel Edmonds has been following the Bruce Fein dilema ever since he signed on the RP campaign. The amount of dirt and corruption this guy is into is staggering.

http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/?s=bruce+fein

Interesting to note, Sible was on AJ about a week ago, and they NEVER mentioned ANYTHING about Bruce Fein. Meanwhile half of her blog is about RP and Bruce Fein.

“All compromise is based on give and take, but there can be no give and take on fundamentals. Any compromise on mere fundamentals is surrender. For it is all give and no take.” – Mohandas Gandhi