Did you see me shaking, or something?
I don't recall being worried at all, except for you, Joe (and your dualistic nature)
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Did you see me shaking, or something?
I don't recall being worried at all, except for you, Joe (and your dualistic nature)
You seemed pretty concerned to post...Quote:
Originally Posted by Horn
...and after explaining the impracticality of ejecting them due to the high cost, you replied,Quote:
Originally Posted by Horn
If you weren't concerned {worried} about it, why even mention the possibility of them hitting swingsets if you already knew it was a non-issue?Quote:
Originally Posted by Horn
Concern and worry are two different things, Joe. But your dualistic nature wouldn't let you know this.
Of course its a concern, and not an impractical one.
Clear skies for lift off is much less of a concern than coexistence within a Cuisinart.
Especially when any proceeds go to feed bean counters and insurance salesman.
It is an impractical one. You used "swing sets" to conjur up images of playing children being hit/killed by falling satellites. To me, that would make it seem as though you are more than mildly concerned about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horn
ETA: After all, the whole "what about the children" fear is the same game the gov plays when they pull their crap. Why stoop to their level?
Which is why I figured satellites crashing together creating a debris field strewn with busted satellite parts would be a good thing, as the small pieces would most certainly burn up on re-entry thereby relieving your fears of intact satellites being able to sometimes survive re-entry.
Don't you agree that many small pieces burning up upon contact with the atmosphere and therefore being unable to reach the ground is much better than large chunks possibly hitting your kids swing set?
...and what's this cuisinart are you keep talking about? First it's falling satellites, then space debris, and now on to food processors. lol
Where are the impractical numbers, Joe?
We're still awaiting your "Accountant's Cuisinart Terror Show" to end.
I already answered that in this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horn
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post466987
Look at the link and see all the different kinds of rockets and notice their cost per pound to low Earth orbit and then consider that instead of those rockets you'd need a Saturn V rocket in order to do what you proposed doing. The first stage would get it up there and then once the satellite was dead, you'd need the 2nd and 3rd stages to lift it beyond Earths gravitational influence. Remember, you said to add boosters to them. Boosters are rockets.
It would increase costs substantially from what you see in that link for all those small rockets that can lift a payload a couple hundred miles at most, to what you proposed by adding the rocket power to attain 11km a second as opposed to 5km a second. To go that much faster costs a lot more.
There is no cost too great to avoid living under a Cuisinart, your statements otherwise are polluted in both soul and spirit.
Who's getting chopped up in the cuisinart you keep going on about? The kids on the swing set that won't actually get hit by a satellite? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Horn
LOL! Thats filmed at Hastings and Hornby. I've gone to that walkway many times for a smoke.Quote:
Originally Posted by ximmy
Here is a picture of the building along side that the meteorite almost hit. It is from the back of the building, the next block down (W Cordova). The upper left corner also shows clearly the same skyscraper beside the comet. Below it is the walkway, and after than Hornby street.
http://www.pnwarchitecture.com/Legac...rClub-001a.jpg
Here is the article I got the picture from: Dick Cheney to Speak at Notorious Child Trafficking Center in Vancouver on September 26 This being the building (Vancouver Club).
So they fixed the area up pretty good after the space junk hit?Quote:
Originally Posted by keehah
You all should take this to the shed. The THUNDERDOME.
I want to see you bleed.
Joe wouldn't make the trip to the outhouse, he'd stop short & take a dump in the flower bed just outside the back door.Quote:
Originally Posted by muffin
Hey, I was just trying to get you to understand how impractical your idea was. Getting a man-made object to leave Earth orbit to the Moon or Sun or wherever you proposed using rockets to send them to, is not an easy nor cheap endeavor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horn
...but all you seem capable of answering with is fanciful theories and insults.
Brace for impact: Scientists warn ANOTHER out-of-control three ton telescope is hurtling towards the Earth at high speed
By Allan Hall
Last updated at 6:29 PM on 10th October 2011
Earth has been told to brace for a possible satellite collision as an orbiting telescope weighing nearly three tons has spun out of control and is plummeting homewards.
ROSAT, a German X-ray telescope built with British and American technology, has been orbiting the Earth since 1990 and has provided invaluable data on stars. But they lost contact with it in 1999.
It is now predicted to re-enter Earth's atmosphere at the end of this month.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...96_468x286.jpg Heavens above: An artist's impression of the ROSAT satellite, which is expected to plunge to Earth at the end of the month
The German Aerospace Center has warned that 30 'individual pieces weighing a total of 1.6 tons may reach the surface of the Earth'.
ROSAT’s heat-resistant mirror in particular may not burn up upon re-entry and falling debris may include razor-sharp shards.
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However Professor Heiner Klinkrad of the European Space Agency assured: 'Until now in the more than 50-years of space history not a single person has been harmed [by pieces of falling satellites].'
ROSAT was launched on June 1, 1990, from U.S. launch site Cape Canaveral for what was originally intended as an 18-month mission.
It actually operated for more than eight years, finally shutting down on February 12, 1999. It is now expected to hit the Earth at some point between now and December.
Odds are long of anyone being hurt, but emergency services in Germany are practicing drills to deal with debris injuries just in case - although there is no evidence that it will land there as opposed to anywhere else.
Last month the German space agency estimated that ROSAT has a 1-in-2000 chance of hitting someone - higher than the 1-in-3,200 odds Nasa gave for UARS, the last satellite to fall to Earth.
But any one individual's odds of being struck are 1-in-14trillion.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...08_468x407.jpg Bus-sized: Nasa's six-ton Upper Atmospheric Research Satellite made its final fiery plunge into the Earth's atmosphere last month
Heiner Klinkrad, head of the Space Debris Office at the European Space Agency, said in a webcast posted on the German Aerospace Center's website: 'It is not possible to accurately predict ROSAT's re-entry.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A SATELLITE PLUMMETS?
Astronomer Dr Ian Griffin, from the UK Association of Science and Discovery Centres, says the Earth's atmosphere slows down falling satellites a great deal.
Much of any satellite crashing to Earth will be disintegrated by heat, caused by friction with the atmosphere. It's the reason we get shooting stars - created by meteors burning up in the upper atmosphere.
Space vehicles experience incredible stress on re-entry. The load can be as much as 10Gs. An F1 car experiences around 5Gs with maximum braking from high speed.
The reason why the location of a crash site is so hard to predict is because the density of the atmosphere varies so greatly higher up, producing different amounts of drag.
A prediction that was wrong by even a few minutes would mean the satellite landing a huge distance away, owing to its speed.
'The uncertainty will decrease as the moment of re-entry approaches.
'It will not be possible to make any kind of reliable forecast about where the satellite will actually come down until about one or two hours before the fact.'
Last month, Nasa's six-ton, bus-sized Upper Atmospheric Research Satellite made its final fiery plunge into the Earth's atmosphere.
Americans had been warned that the 20-year-old orbiter could cause injuries and damage to property as it dropped about two dozen pieces of debris on to Earth weighting up to 300lbs.
The satellite was far smaller than the 135-ton Russian space station Mir, which fell to Earth in 2001 or the 100-ton Skylab that fell in 1979.
So far this year, two large Russian rocket stages have also fallen to earth without inflicting any injury.
Mir fell into the South Pacific, while Skylab hit the Indian Ocean and parts of sparsely populated western Australia. Because two-thirds of the Earth is ocean, space debris usually hits water.
Nasa urged anyone who finds a piece of the UARS satellite not to touch it.
I'm sure Overweight and lazy Romans said the same about indoor plumbing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe King
There is nothing impractical about escaping Earth's gravity, its been done on numerous occasions.
Face it, Joe.
You enjoy shitting at the dinner table.
Yes, and at considerably greater expense than it costs to launch to low Earth orbit where most satellites are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horn
Besides, even if they did what you say and launched every satellite with a rocket "strapped to it" in the anticipation of 10-15 years later using it to "eject" the used up satellite, how many would end up not working due to age and/or micrometeorite strikes? Then you'd have fully loaded rockets re-entering the atmosphere and blowing up.
At that point you'd probably suggest strapping rockets to the rockets already strapped to the satellite just so it doesn't fall on your kids swing set. lol
BTW, did you even look at the link I posted that showed the lift costs per pound of various rockets and also the relatively small payload they are capable of lifting?
...and then consider how much the fully loaded rocket weighs that you want strapped to every satellite and times that cost by its weight, and then build a bigger rocket to launch all that stuff together, to low Earth orbit?
Face it Horn, you don't think your theories through very well before you spew them out as a "solution" to non-existant problems. :pQuote:
Face it, Joe.
You enjoy shitting at the dinner table.
That you'd be willing to spare no expense to prevent something that's never happened, tells me you are truly and genuinely worried about this.
Do you also worry about falling off the edge of the Earth?
Thunderdome!!! That way i can call you bitches out on your stupidity.
Joe has diarrhea mouth... it keeps flowing and flowing...
If that's the case, why you keep eatin' it up?Quote:
Originally Posted by ximmy
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...8&d=1311900858Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe King
Back for more? You must think it's good stuff, huh?
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...9&d=1318291850Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe King
That's a nice red X ya got there. First day online? :p
Attachment 1270Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe King
G.H.REES expose the fraud of Nibiru and Planet-X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flkGDOWepTQ
Another real good show lots of info about how things really work.
Download File JamesMcCanneyScienceHour_October_06_2011.mp3
2) Streaming Version of MP3 7 meg file using real player ... click on link below (will only play on "real player")
Streaming JamesMcCanneyScienceHour_October_06_2011.mp3
This is a copy and paste, have seen so many cry wolf this year so......just throwing this out there....in the event something does happen, we will know what. If I find out more will forward it.
Just a quick note to give you a heads up: The Icke forum had a quick post last night which soon got locked last night concerning this interesting post...tried to investigate but alarm bells are ringing I must say...the credentials of the `supposed` poster are impressive to say the least...worth serious digging to establish what is what ...best regards fella.
" Hello there, seeing as what i am about to say is extremely important, it is essential i confirm my authenticity from the start.
My name is Bruce C. Murray
You can read about me here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_C._Murray
and here
http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~bcm/HomePage/
There is a huge meteorite, about the size of a small town, which is heading very fast towards earth, it has been very visible to people on the stereo soho map, in fact a part of it broke off and hit the sun just last week. There were people talking about it, and indeed a thread about it on here i recall.
Nothing was mentioned in mainstream media about it. People have been told to keep quite about it!
I can confirm that this is a category 1 strength extinction event, if it hits the pacific, it will cause huge tsunami waves, and trigger off events which could cause the extinction of every breathing human animal mamal and plant on this planet.
The authorities and elite will be going underground this weekend as it is due to hit anytime from the early hours of Monday morning (USA time), until around 8am.
So we are looking about 4am -8am USA time it will hit!
This is the time to pray to whoeever you believe in, whoever your God is, you must pray.
This is it. "
The timing of this in conjuncture with global credit collapse leads me to believe God is on the bankers side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steal
i'm impressed that guy could find the right forum section to post his info in, as there's about 537 of them. what's up with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Steal
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Originally Posted by Steal
I'd say that whoever posted that is not the guy mentioned.
The guy named is a Planetary scientist and most certainly knows that there are no meteorites in space. If anyone would use the correct term, a Planatary scientist certainly would. Even an 80 year old one.
Besides, even if there were a meteorite out there, if it was visible on SOHO it'd already be very close to the Sun. How's it get all the way to Earth so suddenly? Look at how many months it took Elenin itself to cross in front of Earths path.
Whoever wrote that is intentionally trying to spread fear. Be smart and don't eat it up.
Goes against what the Bible says so hes full of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steal
This sounds true. When someone claims to be an expert in the field and then uses incorrect terms that even the novice knows, it is a good bet the guy is a fake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe King
Those who don't believe in the bible cannot accept that. Those who know the truth and power of the Word of YHWH will always have the extra insight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kali
Nothing to See Here Folks!
Man this is a real phenomena. I've been doing a google search on "Elenin" daily to see if anyone has seen it yet since it ather it should have passed in front of the sun.
The main stream press has gone all loonie space conspiracy theories. It reminds me of the 'good old days' 3 to 5 years ago discussing such theories and Comet Holmes on GIM and LATOC and others. If you took one of those more epic threads, took out the information, and just the knee-jerk responses of appeals to authoritian denial and fear, you get the MSM google news coverage.
I imagine the mainstream space press sheeple are going through that phase of awakening when one first learns of a new threat, you think it may happen soon, the wisdom to live with and manage the knowledge comes with time, waking up to the (even theoretical) dangers of the Universe can be scary. But perhaps there is a real threat that could also explain this over reaction of denial. I mean NASA when your reports start giving no reports, but statements like: "Enjoy every day on this beautiful planet and live your life in its fullest", not that can freak me out more than any Tyche (NASA's term for Planet X) is a few years theoretical possibility.
There is a lot of X Facter Junk on the internet, but the same sort of junk was always there, the disinfo and the waking up and the lost. There is now more of it, but this doom was nothing new. I guess its just going mainstream.
This is a good one. http://www.universetoday.com/89973/w...hout-incident/ It actuall said clear than most nothing is seen, and had more heart.
Here was the only real information in the article:
http://www.universetoday.com/wp-cont...17-580x427.jpg
Image taken with the 2m Faulkes North Telescope of the region of sky where Comet Elenin should have been.
And here is the end of the article:
The main significance of this comet was as it approached the sun in was in alignment on earths yearly axis, and had capacitance. This time has passed. I was suprised at the earthquake alignment 'coincidences'.Quote:
And if you proudly claim you aren’t a sheeple and are now just waiting and searching for the next doomsday theory to hang your every hope upon, why don’t you try expending your energy on this: Enjoy every day on this beautiful planet and live your life in its fullest. Use real science and learn to think critically. And perhaps you could be a person who could help come up with solutions to some of the real problems on planet Earth.
(And by the way, don’t worry about Oct. 21, 2011 (Harold Camping makes another prediction) or Dec. 21, 2012 (Mayan calendar) either. Same story.)
-Nancy Atkinson is Universe Today's Senior Editor. She also is the project manager for the 365 Days of Astronomy podcast, works with Astronomy Cast and is host of the NASA Lunar Science Institute podcast. Nancy is also a NASA/JPL Solar System Ambassador.
Of significance now is where is the comet and/or what happened to it?
And that someone on the planet may see a meteor or aurora around Halloween when we pass far under any tail.
I had been most concerned about passing through the tail. But we would have needed an intact comet with a large coma for any interesting aurora. And this now won't happen with no comet.
Interesting that the MSM is willing to talk about amost every other wild and extreme conspiracy theory except the one most observed with other comets (meteor showers are a result of Eath passing through comet trails). Not a mention of the tail passing in weeks of a MSM daily search.
Next? Why lady even after Halloween this one is not over. Lets wait till next spring when the earth does pass through the tail and see what Elenin left behind or dragged with it from the asteroid belt. Less exciting that what Halloween could have been if Elenin was still there with a big coma that reached out to earth.Quote:
and are now just waiting and searching for the next doomsday theory...
I know this report was not to me, but I'm here to help eh?
Oh, and End The Fed! Crash JP Morgan buy silver. Start a garden. Report at at least a high school science level; inform not occult. Take a pay cut to save taxpayer's money. The real problem is one's faith in easy solutions for someone else to come up with.Quote:
And perhaps you could be a person who could help come up with solutions to some of the real problems on planet Earth.
And one last piece of advice from Murphy’s Laws of Combat: If you can't see the enemy, he still may be able to see you.
Seems like it actually did break up as you had already read, but refused to believe possible. http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post452866Quote:
Originally Posted by keehah
Because that's exactly what they were, coincidences.Quote:
The main significance of this comet was as it approached the sun in was in alignment on earths yearly axis, and had capacitance. This time has passed. I was suprised at the earthquake alignment 'coincidences'.
I'm sure there are two sets of tools NASA has given the past record, Elenin probably has a previous name and one much older.
If not, the new brown dwarf scope was a huge disappointment and waste of large sums of money.
here it comes...
Could hit Joe King's house...
German scientists say they cannot be sure for certain when, or where, a 2.5 metric tonne satellite is due to hit Earth later this week.
The defunct Roentgen Satellite, or ROSAT, is due to re-enter the atmosphere at some point between October 21 and 24.
http://www.itn.co.uk/home/31748/Huge...ding+for+Earth
Thanks for the warning Ximmy. If it does hit my house, could I come stay with you? Please? I'll earn my keep....and then some. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ximmy
I do dishes, painting, lawn work {including excavation and tree trimming} minor plumbing and electrical, I can dust and vacuum and fix your PC and wash your windows too.
...but only in the daytime.
I can do all that.... and more... sorry...Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe King
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Fu0MZZPoGj...-shoulders.jpg
Oh, I know you can. You're quite the capable one, I'm sure about that. ^-^Quote:
Originally Posted by ximmy
...but just think how much more would get done? You'd come home from work and just be able to take it easy and eat your sammich while editing trolol videoes to post at GSUS.
Besides, if my house really is going to get hit, the least I could do is to come help you seeing as you were kind enough to warn me. General would prolly just let it hit me. I know Horn would.