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Cliven Bundy is apposed to three separate trials for the Bundy Ranch Standoff
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/bu...standoff-case/
Rancher Cliven Bundy opposes 3 separate trials in Bunkerville standoff case
Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy is opposing a proposal from federal prosecutors to split the 17 remaining defendants charged in the Bunkerville standoff case into three separate trials.
In a court document filed Wednesday, Bundy asked for all the defendants to be tried in February in one joint trial.
Bundy’s attorney, Bret Whipple, argued in the document that three separate trials would deprive the defendants of their right to a speedy trial. Whipple also argued that three trials would result in due process concerns because co-defendants will not want to testify in other trials before going to trial themselves.
If the court does not allow one joint trial, Bundy, 70, is asking that he go to trial after all the other defendants are tried in February “so as not to keep them in jail any longer than necessary.”
Bundy wants his co-defendants to be able to return to their families and jobs as soon as possible, and he is willing to wait longer if necessary, Whipple said in an interview.
Federal prosecutors filed paperwork earlier this month suggesting a tier of three trials, with the first one starting on Feb. 6 for Bundy and others alleged to be leaders: Bundy’s sons Ammon and Ryan, Peter Santilli, and Ryan Payne.
A second trial would start in May, and a third would begin in August.
The defendants face federal charges that include conspiring to assault federal agents on April 12, 2014, several miles from the Bundy ranch near Bunkerville.
Prosecutors allege the armed assault unfolded as the Bundys and their followers moved to take back Bundy cattle that had been impounded by Bureau of Land Management agents.
The impoundment happened after the BLM had obtained court orders to seize the cattle because no grazing fees had been paid to use federal public lands on which the cows roamed.
Ammon and Ryan Bundy were acquitted in October by a Portland jury in an armed takeover of a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon. The 41-day Oregon standoff unfolded early this year.
Contact Ben Botkin at bbotkin@reviewjournal.com or 702-387-2904. Follow @BenBotkin1 on Twitter.
Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
From Gary Hunt, Outpost of Freedom
http://outpost-of-freedom.com/blog/?p=1848
The Bundy Affair – #19 – Schuyler Barbeau Responds to Ryan Payne
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Gary Hunt
Outpost of Freedom
November 30, 2016
Schuyler Barbeau receives copies of my articles, via mail, while detained at SeaTac Federal Detention Center. After reading “Ryan Payne Explains Some of the Circumstances Surrounding the Bundy Affair in April 2014“, Schuyler sent me the following to post, in response to that article.
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11/14/2016
FDC SeaTac
This is an open letter,
To those Patriots, their families, anyone affected by or involved with the indictment against Cliven Bundy and eighteen others, the Government, FBI, Federal Prosecutors, and anyone else concerned with the case,
This letter is my concurrence with an open letter written and published by Ryan Payne.
I, Schuyler P. Barbeau, was present before, during and after the “standoff” event that took place in Bunkerville, NV, near Cliven Bundy’s Ranch on April 12th, 2014. I arrived at noon on Friday the 11th, and was invited to be a member of the Personal Security Detail that evening. I then remained a member of the PSD [Personal Security Detail] for seven days.
Ryan Payne made five statements in his letter, that he made speculative, inaccurate, and/or fabricated statements before, during, and after the “standoff.”
“1) There were outcomes that I discussed with Mr. Bundy on the morning of April 8, 2014, upon first meeting him, which were desirable to him and his family. These were then disseminated through conventional and alternative media outlets, in the belief that those who may decide to protest against the Sheriff’s apparent lack of involvement, and/or against the brutal and militarized actions of the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). This would give them more information to aid in making decisions for themselves and their actions. There was never a plan to accomplish these objectives, in any way, shape, or form, nor was there any intent to support any such plan, by myself, the Bundy’s, or anyone else. As there was presumed to be a large protest on April 12th, I discussed with numerous individuals, some particular things to be watch*ful for amongst the crowd, for the safety of all involved including law enforcement and federal employees. However, none of these discussions concerned a plan to achieve any objectives. This is true to my knowledge.”
I, Schuyler P. Barbeau, concur with Ryan Payne’s first statement, that it is true to my knowledge.
“2) There were no long range marksmen present before, during, or after the 12th, except those employed by the BLM, as confirmed via photographic evidence disseminated before the 12th. There were no counter-sniper teams or positions, nor was there any such plan for such. There were no qualified individuals or teams present to perform such a task, even if there had been a plan for it. Again, there was no such plan, and no orders were ever given in relation to such positions or teams, nor could there have been orders given, as there was no command authority. This is true to my knowledge.’
I, Schuyler P. Barbeau, concur with Ryan Payne’s second statement, that it is true to my knowledge.
“3) There was no “Tactical Superiority”: any intent to achieve “Tactical Superiority”: and there was no plan concerning achieving “Tactical Superiority,” at any time before, during, or after the 12th, relating to the events which took place in and around Bunkerville, Nevada. There could be nothing other than speculation concerning any outcomes or circumstances pertaining to the 12th because there was neither a coordinated nor a centralized offensive entity, nor was there any intent to achieve or implement such.
Statements about what could or could not have happened if the BLM or Forrest Service Tactical Strike Force had opened fire on the innocent protesters they were aiming their AR-15 style rifles at, which included women and children, were, are, and could only ever be speculative and based on opinion, as there was no coordination nor planned response to that scenario. This is true to my knowledge.”
I, Schuyler P. Barbeau, concur with Ryan Payne’s third statement, that it is true to my knowledge.
“4) There was no “command” authority, “on-the-ground commander,” or any agreement to give, to receive, or to follow orders from anyone in the Bundy family, nor myself, nor anyone present in Bunkerville, Nevada, before, or on the 12th of April, 2014. Neither myself nor anyone else, gave orders or instructions regarding fortified positions, or gaining tactical superiority, to anyone present on the 12th. There was certainly no agreement to commit a crime, or multiple crimes. This is true to my knowledge.”
I, Schuyler P. Barbeau, concur with Ryan Payne’s fourth statement, that it is true to my Knowledge.
“5) As stated in (1) above, there was never a plan, nor was there any planning pertaining to the events which took place before and on the 12th of April, aside from being able to provide food and water to protesters. This is true to my knowledge.”
I, Schuyler P. Barbeau, concur with Ryan Payne’s fifth statement, that it is true to my knowledge.
I will further add that I, having been present in the Bunkerville, NV area and at Cliven Bundy’s house and ranch before, on, and after the “standoff” events on April 12th, 2014:
1) Did not participate in any conspiracy, confederation, or agreement to commit any offenses against the “United States” with anyone else present before, on, or after the 12th, nor was there anyone else participating in any conspiracy, confederation, or agreement to commit any offenses against the “United States” with Cliven Bundy, nor anyone else. There was no planning of anything to do anything. This is true to my knowledge.
2) There were only three groups of people in Bunkerville or at the Bundy’s Ranch before, on, and after the events of April 12th, 2014. There were protesters, people who supported the protesters and the security for Cliven and his family and everyone else. The first protested the heavy handed tactics of the Government, the support group handled food, water, medical, etc needs of the protest and security groups, and the security made sure Cliven and his family and everyone else stayed safe, not only from unlawful acts by the Government, but also from anyone else. No one who was there had any other purpose or intent then to exercise their/our 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, and other rights secured by the United States Constitution and Bill Of Rights. This is true to my knowledge.
Where the Government came up with the idea of some big conspiracy to commit a bunch of crimes is beyond me, except that they speculated off of Ryan’s and other’s fabrications and false representations. The whole point of protesting a Government’s actions is to stop those actions from continuing UNTIL there is redress. Had all the protesters gone and stayed inside the “First Amendment Zones” they set up unconstitutionally, the BLM would have finished rounding up all of Cliven’s cattle, shipped them off, killed off even more than they did, packed up, and moved out of there and Cliven’s whole life would have been completely destroyed. Is he supposed to, are WE supposed to, just let the Government destroy him completely and then try to hash it out in court after he’s lost everything? He would have lost all his money, house, ranch, all his property, everything, and then you expect him to pay maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars to fight the big fight in court? For years? And probably never get redress or restored? No, I say, you assemble and stop the Government destruction until there is redress and you absolutely bear arms to protect yourself and others from this kind of tyranny. That’s exactly how our Founding Father did in the past and that’s exactly how our Founding Fathers wanted us to do it today. We The People are not to ever let the Federal Government just walk all over us. How come the Government can point their assault weapons at We The People and claim self-defense, but We The People can not point our guns at them in self-defense? We are just citizens trying to defend ourselves from tyranny. When I was in the Marine Corps (OOH RAH), we had to learn the four weapon safety rules. One is: Never point your weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot. We also have Rules of Engagement. Basically, we didn’t point our weapons at anybody unless they are an enemy combatant who has a weapon and is using it, or intends to use it against us. Our Law Enforcement is trained the same way and learns the four weapon safety rules. Does that mean that at the Bundy Ranch “standoff,” the BLM, Forrest Service, and whoever else was pointing their weapons at us were INTENDING to shoot us? Were we citizens enemy combatants to them? We were there to exercise our rights as citizens and people of this land. It seems they had a conspiracy, confederation, or agreement to kill enemy combatants.
Sincerely, Your Defender,
/s/ Schuyler P. Barbeau
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The letter can also be found at “Barbeau – a Voice from Prison #2“.
Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
Las Vegas Metro police tailing Deb Jordan? Arresting youtubers for first amendment expression . . .
Bill Goode
Quote:
In this video Brand Thornton discusses the tyranny of Gloria Navarro, the judge over the Bunkerville case and a police officer, Kenneth Mead, who is tailing Deb Jordon.
Brand explains that a rally will be held this weekend, Saturday and Sunday, at the Pahrump Detention Center, starting at 9 AM. Brand encourages all to attend.
http://youtu.be/lUUyg8s7h2M
https://youtu.be/lUUyg8s7h2M
Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
Sally Jewell defends her position on Bundy Ranch and Malhuer Reserve. The statement by one of the governors that he didn't want the public lands turned over to the state because it would be to expensive to manage is misleading. If the state took the massive BLM army of employees over and continued current management practices it is conceivable the cost would be extremely high.
Prior to the early 1970's there was very little BLM presence in Nevada where 87% of the land is claimed by the federal gov. I never saw a BLM employee anywhere around our ranch, or Nye County while I was growing up.
The only improvements I have seen have been the building of drift fences to separate allotments and the fenceing of the highways to keep cattle off. I can't see any difference in the condition of the range now than during the 1950's and 60's.
The wild hourse and burro act has caused more damage to the land and to the animals than it has done good. That may be one of the biggest expenses besides the huge payroll and vehicle expenses the BLM has. The BLM has a huge office building in Reno, another in Battle Mointain and several smaller office buildings around the state. What do these people do besides figure out ways to make the cost of ranching so high it is no longer profitable?
The argument states can not afford to mange the land within thier borders doesn't hold water.
Jewell has no law enforcement authority on the public lands. She should have called the local sheriff who does have jurisdiction and let him agonize over what to do instead of laying awake at night.
http://www.eenews.net/stories/1060046585
Jewell explains decisions on Bundy, looks ahead to Trump
Jeremy P. Jacobs, E&E News reporter
Greenwire: Friday, December 2, 2016
http://www.eenews.net/image_assets/2...sset_14444.jpgInterior Secretary Sally Jewell, right, and Deputy Secretary Mike Connor take a tour of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in March after the 41-day armed standoff ended. Photo courtesy of the Department of the Interior.
Interior Secretary Sally Jewell said this week that armed standoffs with "fringe" groups protesting federal land management led to the most "extraordinarily difficult" moments of her four years at the helm of the agency.
In a wide-ranging podcast interview with Outside Magazine, Jewell said the 2014 event at the Bundy family ranch in Nevada and last winter's Malheur National Wildlife Refuge occupation in Oregon led to sleepless nights.
Jewell said she agonized over what to do during the 2014 standoff over rancher Cliven Bundy's failure to pay fees for grazing on public lands. After an "almost all-nighter," Jewell said, she made the "very difficult — but I think the right decision — to pull our people out of harm's way, so that blood was not spilt."
"That was very difficult to do because we had court orders for Bundy to remove his cattle," she said.
Federal officials faced significant criticism for that decision, with many arguing that it emboldened Bundy and his supporters and directly led to the Malheur refuge standoff last winter.
Jewell said she was "involved every single day" during the 41-day Malheur occupation that ended Feb. 11.
She insisted that the event, led by Cliven's sons Ammon and Ryan Bundy, consisted of a "very small fringe group of people."
And, she said, they failed to meet their objective because they "did not reflect the values of the people of that community," which had a good working relationship with federal land management officials, including at the refuge.
"The underlying story," she said, "is that this was a small group of people that did not gain the support of the community because the land management agency — in this case, the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge — had been working for over a decade with members of the community on the plans for the refuge for the long term."
Jewell said that is a recipe for avoiding other similar conflicts in the future.
Federal officials, she said, should work to establish "trusting, personal relationships with individuals in those communities at every level of government."
Jewell also sought to rebuff a movement in the West, seeking to transfer federal lands to state or local control, that the Bundys are part of.
The former CEO of REI said local officials understand the complexities of land management in the West, as well as the strain such a takeover would put on already tight state budgets.
"When we engage with local communities and they recognize what federal land management looks like and what we do, that actually changes," she said. "So part of it is on us to communicate with the local people and local elected officials about what we do."
If states had control, they would likely either need to raise revenue through taxes to manage the land, or sell it off.
(What is there to manage? That land has been there millions of years and little has changed. Let the cattlemen and miners pay the state.)
"If people actually opened their eyes and understood it, they would appreciate that, as well," she said.
Jewell also mentioned a conversation she had with an unnamed Republican governor from a Western state. The governor, she said, told her he didn't want federal lands transferred to his state because of the enormous management expenses.
Looking to Trump
Jewell also expressed some optimism that some of the policies implemented during her four-year tenure would survive Republican President-elect Donald Trump's administration.
She pointed specifically to sweeping greater sage grouse conservation plans covering 67 million acres in 10 Western states that will affect how grazing and development can be carried out.
(Why all of a sudden are the sage grouse endangered?)
"That's not going to get rolled back," Jewell said. That policy is "common sense, and it's pragmatic."
She also highlighted a plan for 10 million acres of California desert that identified which areas are suitable for wind and solar energy development, and which aren't.
(Another federal boondoggle with negative income. Solyndra and Solar Reserve are shining examples)
"I'm optimistic that we've crafted a future that makes sense for business and what it make sense for business," she said. "I don't see it being in the best interest of politicians or Cabinet members to unwind that."
Jewell did express concern about climate change, and a hope that whoever has her job next will embrace her team's work on the issue.
She also implored environmental groups to be vocal during the Trump administration.
"If you're not at the table, you're on the menu," Jewell said. "So for people who care about environmental issues, you've got to be at the table, and you've got to be expressing your views to your elected officials."
Asked what's next for her after Trump takes office in January, Jewell said she plans to take a long road trip across the country with her husband back to her native Washington.
Choking back tears, Jewell said they had recently traded in their Toyota Prius for a Subaru Outback to get more ground clearance for exploring.
She said she needs to "rebalance" after the rigors of leading the Interior Department.
"Balance for me and for most of us," she said, "comes from Mother Nature."
"I'm going flat-out, and I have been for four years," she said. "So a break will be good. But I'm not done."
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The western states don't need Sally Jewell's murdering management team.
nevadalandscouncil.org
Nevada Lands Council
Our Mission:
The Nevada Lands Council is a non-profit organization that was established to provide the resources necessary to secure control of federal public lands within the borders of Nevada by transferring their ownership and management to the state.
Our Goal:
To ensure that Nevadans, who know and truly care about our state, will have an opportunity to manage the land in order to provide:
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HEALTHIER AIR, WATER, AND WILDLIFE
FEDERAL MANAGEMENT enlists burdensome and redundant processes that inhibit wildlife habitats and reduce air and water quality.
STATE MANAGEMENT would streamline processes that expedite measures to enhance wildlife populations and ensure healthy air and water quality.
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ABUNDANT, ACCESSIBLE OUTDOOR RECREATION
FEDERAL MANAGEMENT "preserves" public land by restricting access for hunting and recreation.
STATE MANAGEMENT conserves public land through good stewardship practices and responsible recreational use.
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SAFE, VIBRANT COMMUNITIES
FEDERAL MANAGEMENT blocks access to natural resources, crippling regional economic growth
STATE MANAGEMENT utilizes natural resources to establish stable and vibrant economic communities
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Did You Know?
Currently, 87% of Nevada is controlled by the federal government meaning Nevadan's have little control of what happens within their own borders.
Nevada is the only state that currently has legislation (H.R. 1484) within the halls of the U.S. Congress that advocates a federal lands transfer.
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"We're tired of being pistol-whipped by the bureaucrats and dry-gulched by federal regulations, nobody can convince me that we could not be better stewards of the land than that perfidious absentee landlord who resides along the Potomac." - Former Nevada Senator Norman Glaser, December 1980
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Mrs. B Stacy video Clark County Sheriff "No Nevada laws were broken"
http://youtu.be/ReL9Z72dVm0
https://youtu.be/ReL9Z72dVm0
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Both Carol and Cliven Bundy have suffered injuries recently.
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Bundy Ranch
7 hrs ·
What a day. I am feeling blessing beyond measure. But still asking Heavenly Father WHY? Why do we have to go through this? What must we learn from all this? How long are we going to have to continue living this nightmare.
This morning I got a call that my mom had been in a roll over accident. She is goiyng to be "OK" but she is really banged up, bruised and in a lot pain. It's a miracle she is with us tonight. As we were getting her all settled in at home we received a call that my dad had also had an accident in jail today. He fell really hard and is in a lot of pain they took him to the infirmary and they told him he was fine, gave him an aspirin and threw him back in his pod. He is not ok. He is A LOT of pain. My brother say that he can hardly move and is not ok. It's killing me that I can't be with him. I hate that my dad cant be here with my mom and it kills me that my mom can't be there for my dad. Please pray for my mom and dad they are in dire need of them tonight.
If possible please donate to carols PayPal. She doesn't have insurance and the medical bills and pilling high and her car is totaled.
http://paypal.me/carolbundy
Thanks you
Love, Bailey
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I think this guy from Utah's email campaign will hit a dead end. I expect the court wil probably block those emails as spam.
I am wondering if there is a mechanism that we inhabitants of the states can use to file a demand in these Bundy actions, demanding the court prove they have jurisdiction because it affects each and every one of us and our rights.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/8500...7094940729438/
Loren Pearce
December 6 at 5:57am
PLEASE FLOOD JUDGE GLORIA NAVARRO OFFICE WITH LETTERS DEMANDING THE PRE TRIAL RELEASE OF THE PRISONERS.
I used the email address of her court deputy. I know of no other way to get these letters to her. She may not read them, but she will hear about them.
URGENT
Hon. Gloria Navarro
Chief Judge, US District Court
Attn: Aaron Blazevich
Aaron_Blazevich@nvd.uscourts.gov.
Your Honor:
I am writing on behalf of the Bundy family and other prisoners who are imprisoned without having been convicted of any crime.
I have met the Bundy family and I can attest to their integrity, their desire to do what is right and to contribute to society in a manner that is compliant with the law and with morality. I can testify that they are neither a flight risk nor are they a danger to a society. There is nothing in their past or in their present that even remotely indicates that they are a flight risk or a danger to society.
At the 2014 incident involving the BLM for which they are being charged, I was there and never witnessed any encouragement by anybody, much less the Bundys, advocating for bloodshed or for violence. Rather, they repeatedly searched for a peaceful solution and called upon God to protect all people, including the federal government employees. After the BLM withdrew, they left behind trucks, generators and other valuable equipment that were never vandalized in retaliation for the harm done by the BLM, instead, the valuables were safeguarded until the BLM returned to retrieve them.
I have researched for hundreds of hours the right to bail that goes back to the Magna Carta. While I am sure you will have a different viewpoint, I assert that the denial of bail is woefully and rampantly unconstitutional and not only illegal, but immoral.
The Bundys and other prisoners should be released pending trial, in compliance with a 500 year sacred doctrine of “presumption of innocence until proven guilty”. Pre trial detention is a punishment and to deny it as such is the same as Bill Clinton denying he had sex with Monica Lewinsky. It is this play on words that gives the American people a lack of confidence in the judges and courts of America.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Respectfully,
Loren Edward Pearce
Cedar City, Utah
Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
J Grady posted this video recently, from 2015.
The man on the bridge
http://youtu.be/wG-L-rEqGrs
https://youtu.be/wG-L-rEqGrs
Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher