Bundy + Hammonds Rally Dec. 4, 2016. I wish thes guys would turn their phones 90° when filming videos.
http://youtu.be/fdNiShzPnMc
https://youtu.be/fdNiShzPnMc
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Bundy + Hammonds Rally Dec. 4, 2016. I wish thes guys would turn their phones 90° when filming videos.
http://youtu.be/fdNiShzPnMc
https://youtu.be/fdNiShzPnMc
Ammon and Ryan Bundy taken to the hole Dec. 8, 2016.
Edit:
This sounds like a phone conversation between Jerry DeLemus from the Pahrump jail to his wife. About an hour ago.
http://youtu.be/7VLOR6hAhbg
https://youtu.be/7VLOR6hAhbg
This is a screenshot of the video . . . . .
http://s19.postimg.org/b1808cecj/IMG_1381.png
We as regular people need to establish teams to work as groups in these situations to ensure over sight and review is carried out independently. So long as these guys are the only ones with oversight and review of their actions it will continue.
Difficult situation because, as the Bundy's demonstrates, as soon as you do this, you get infiltrated and overwhelmed. No effort is too small, no amount of resources is tool little or too much for them to muster and deploy against you. SO this makes things extremely difficult. They can get 3 or 4 people in place and poison the well or put up road blocks and people are just too inexperienced and trusting to know how to identify it, block it and secure against it. It's really a diabolical situation.
And of course in some situations it only takes one, who looks ok, sounds ok but who suddenly goes kooky and that becomes the one that stands out, the one that is used to justify blocking or closing out or shutting down the good people.
Any person should be able to join a cause for action. This is an inherent feature of the system. All they need is standing. But then they need to be able to hold their position and reinforce it. Some of that needs to use leverage to block bad actors from interceding. Attorneys general or state need to be blocked from exercising authority, real or imagined, to take over a prosecution initiated by an individual. People need to file in the correct venue.
Juries petite need to be established and held together against the bad actors and tricks. This takes a lot of knowledge. Ultimately mass revelation is required turn the tide and I'm not sure how that can happen. Is it happening? Can it happen soon enough?
And yes, lawfulness needs to reinstated, because civil action has no rules to protect the innocent, only the criminals and they will do what ever it takes to get the job done.
Bundy Story Part 3
http://youtu.be/RvxZzlF67_s
https://youtu.be/RvxZzlF67_s
But there are at least two United States.
Which one do you know?
Which one has a Constitution?
Which one is under a Constitution?
One of those United States is a private corporation pretending to be our Gov.
I believe the political prisoners are being held and mistreated for exposing this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigjon
I suspect the feds know their chances of a conviction aren't real high, so by keeping them locked up without a trial and subjecting them to cruel inhumane punishment will break their spirit and silence them as well as send a message to the masses . . . .
Yep law enforcement by scumbags teaching the masses that the law does not have to obey the law and can make it up as they go along.Quote:
Originally Posted by monty
Bundy Brothers are standing their ground, refuse to walk into courtroom.
http://www.whio.com/news/local/bundy...RLBiTKyrpdonJ/
Bundy brothers balk at attending US court hearing in Vegas
Updated: Friday, December 09, 2016 @ 7:05 PM
Published: Friday, December 09, 2016 @ 5:44 PM
By: Associated Press
A small group of protesters gather Friday, Dec. 9, 2016, outside the U.S. District Court building in Las Vegas where Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and 16 other defendants had a hearing before a federal magistrate judge scheduling their trials on charges they conspired to take up weapons against federal agents in an armed standoff in April 2014. (AP Photo/Ken Ritter)
LAS VEGAS — Two sons of Nevada cattleman Cliven Bundy refused to attend, and several co-defendants shouted an oath of defiance at the end of a Friday court appearance for 17 men accused of conspiring and taking up arms against federal agents near the Bundy ranch in Nevada in April 2014.
U.S. Magistrate Judge Peggy Leen decided not to order marshals to bring Ammon and Ryan Bundy to court by force, so the two Bundy sons remained in a nearby holding cell. Marshals were instructed to provide a speaker so they could hear audio of the court proceedings.
Another defendant, Peter Santilli, blurted out that the Bundy brothers didn't want to be shackled. Leen admonished Santilli that he didn't get to speak on their behalf.
So began a contentious three-hour hearing during which the judge didn't make immediate rulings on a range of arguments, including the government's request to have three trials and defendants' requests to be tried together or in groups of their choosing.
Trial is scheduled to begin Feb. 6. Leen called it "physically and logistically impossible" to try all 17 defendants together, and suggested it would be unfair for a 17th defendant to have to wait months or years to resolve his case if they were tried individually. She said she'll issue a written scheduling order soon.
Leen also is considering multiple requests to dismiss charges; a plea for a change of venue to Reno or another city; a suggestion that federal officials shredded documents that would be relevant to the case as they packed up and left temporary offices near Bunkerville; and Cliven Bundy's lawyer's insistence that the federal government has no jurisdiction in Clark County.
Santilli's attorney argued that he's a journalist, and that his calls in Internet postings for supporters to rally to the Bundy ranch to lawfully carry guns and protest federal Bureau of Land Management action were constitutionally protected free speech.
At least two defendants, Ryan Payne and Scott Engel, stood the moment court was adjourned and loudly declared, "Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God!"
Santilli chimed in that he expected that when Donald Trump becomes president, he'll intervene in the case on the defendants' behalf.
Several people among about three dozen family members and friends responded with words of love and support as they filed out of the courtroom gallery under watchful eyes of U.S. marshals.
The protest-by-absence of Ammon and Ryan Bundy echoed the refusal by their father last March to enter a plea to federal charges that he led the tense armed standoff that stopped a government round-up of cattle on public land about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. A magistrate judge entered a not-guilty plea for him.
No shots were fired, and no one was injured in the standoff. But images of Bundy backers with assault rifles on a freeway overpass forcing federal agents to back off in a dry river bed below have become iconic in an ongoing battle about states' rights and federal authority.
That dispute has roots a nearly half-century fight over grazing rights in Nevada and the West, where the federal government controls vast expanses of land. Calls for action have grown louder and more frequent in the Internet age, with bloggers protesting federal agency decisions to designate protected areas for endangered species and set aside tracts for mining, wind farms and natural gas exploration.
The Bundy case defendants face conspiracy, obstruction, weapon, threat and assault on a federal officer charges that could get them decades in prison if they're convicted. They and two others who have pleaded guilty in the case remain in federal custody in southern Nevada.
Federal prosecutors want three trials, with the first to start Feb. 6 for accused conspiracy leaders Cliven, Ammon and Ryan Bundy, Payne and Santilli.
A second trial would start in May for six alleged "mid-level" standoff leaders and organizers: Bundy sons Dave and Mel Bundy, Brian Cavalier, Micah McGuire, Joseph O'Shaughnessy and Jason Woods.
A third trial would begin in August for six accused "followers and gunmen." They are Gregory Burleson, O. Scott Drexler, Todd Engel, Ricky Lovelien, Eric Parker and Steven Stewart.
Woods' lawyer, Kristine Kuzemka, protested Friday that labeling defendants as "gunmen" is unfair because it suggests guilt or culpability.
Leen said a description used for now, during pretrial proceedings, might never be suggested to a jury.
Burleson's attorney, Terrence Jackson, asked again for the judge to consider releasing his client before trial for medical reasons.
Jackson said Burleson, 53, of Arizona, is blind, diabetic and uses a wheelchair.
Burleson told Leen he isn't getting medical treatment in federal custody.
"I don't want to end up dying in here," he said.