Pizzagate

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Originally Posted by Jewboo

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/honeybee/

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I was browsing some of her past vids, and see this one which addressed the question we were batting around a week or so ago here, re the (((alleged))) "mass pedo arrests" story.

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Originally Posted by PatColo

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Originally Posted by Dachsie

Sounds plausible to me.

I have noticed we are not have very many false flags lately and all the web banter about big past false flags has disappeared.

Maybe your hypothesis, PatColo, is the new form of false flags - mass pedo arrests that are totally false events.

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^ yeah, hoaxed/staged "swamp drainings", with dissemination targeted at particular societal "truther" sub-groups mostly via internet... sounds like something (((they'd))) try to do!

Recall the big "press conference" associated with that supposed mass pedo ring arrest; where there were perhaps a dozen coppers in uniform, and DA types in their biz suits, taking turns at the mic? Did that get mass talmudvision fake news coverage, leading the top of news hours for days; and panel discussions by the beautiful tv people? I truly don't know! But I know I saw it in a YT clip, not on tv. http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/s...20%2824%29.gif

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These couple of mini rants from The HoneyBee, published Feb 2 and then Feb 4, seem to corroborate our "fake/hoaxed pedo-swamp-draining-arrests" suspicion above!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IylRodgK3CE/h...dsGwioVwDYs4pM
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Terrifying NON-Coverage of LA Child Sex Trafficking Scandal

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• 3 weeks ago

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4P6Hek5D7yE/h...I2Cl2VXjj1M_iY
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NON-COVERAGE LA Child Sex Trafficking Ring

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See 52 reader comments at the YT link, giving their impressions of the (((Fake News))) coverage, if any.



Separately, from Bad Guacamole:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NNZ_DBcdlto/h...ExYHGnNL2IU2mM
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Arizona Bay News is LIVE : Socore talks with me.

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  from vlogger martyleeds33, with his ~32K sub's

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_AR_c9AeL5s/h...nzAIt35ZliP5a4
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Buzzfeed, #pizzagate and the Conspiracy Industrial Complex
martyleeds33

• 6 hours ago
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Reply to PatColo comment 648

"But with my working hypothesis being TPTB were fully intent on installing Killary up until the PG iceberg threatened their whole game; my guess is they rigged the fake election outcome to hand it to DT, but by the narrowest "technical win" apparent margin, IE, "no mandate."

Guess the main difference between Dachsie and PatColo is in what we perceive is causing TPTB to be reeling, but we do agree THEY are reeling.

You make some good arguments for your working hypothesis but I still say 'close, but no cigar."

I think THEY did plan for DT to win, but for reasons of their big-picture overall plan for a one world death and slavery system for all. Don't much use NWO meme these days at it is definitely of THEIR created lexicon of terms we are to use. THEIR desire for DT to win really has not much to do with low-level operations like manipulating voters and outcomes though they certainly want to look like THEY think it is important for THEM to manipulate voters because 'we voters are a real force to reckon with' - more of the never-ending hustle. This technique is used in various ways over and over on us, especially in regard to making people disappear suddenly and making us think all sorts of things, and also in persecuting and "martyrizing" certain public figures - all manipulations that could be real but could also very well be just more Sunsteinian scams against we the people.

Dr. Fetzer uses the term that they want us to think that 'everything is believable but nothing is knowable." That does a splendid job of keeping our minds in overwhelmed confusion and boy, are we easily manipulatable and controllable when our minds are in that condition.

Agree elections / voting is a total wipeout. There does seem to be some ability however to expose, while manipulations in progress before final numbers, some of rigging. I kept hearing this "narrow margin" idea and I also keep hearing this "Hillary won the popular vote" idea. Don't lend much credence to any of that. I take it as fact that we just have no idea what the actual vote count was, but even if we did, that number itself no matter how valid and careful it could be made to appear, that number itself had many built-in invalidities. THEY made it clear to us all along that the illegal aliens were invited to the polling booths en masse and there would absolutely no effort to stop the huge numbers of illegal votes by those folk as well as those folk long six feet under. Saul Alinksky, may be not rest in peace.

They started moving Killary into meltdown much earlier than Oct. 2016 with her some-real and some very fakey public health problems, falling, coughing paroxysms, etc. and also with the succession of some very close match and some very fakey body double performers. It was almost mind numbing the wide variations between truthy versus fakey Hillary shows being peddled to us, and even THAT was part of the deception plan because that produces the desired "what am I to make of all this inconsistency and chaos?" Sunsteinianism at its best. THEY clearly have the ability to put out some very high-level genuine looking scenes in their play and then intersperce it with some incredibly, and I think deliberately, amateurish fakey scenes / displays.

Guess that's enough of my stream-of-thought self-therapeutics. It heps me, don't ya know.

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Originally Posted by Dachsie

Dr. Fetzer uses the term that they want us to think that 'everything is believable but nothing is knowable." That does a splendid job of keeping our minds in overwhelmed confusion and boy, are we easily manipulatable and controllable when our minds are in that condition.

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yeah I've used that quote myself before, lol. :D IIRC Fetz was quoting some CIA spook who'd said that line. It sure fits their apparent game well, don't it?

I'll just add to my case about the "elections" being completely fraudulent with "results" being completely controlled; recall how killaryCo actually cancelled her already scheduled & paid for "NYC fireworks show", on Mon 7 Nov?! :o DT even joked about it at one of his post election rallies, saying he offered killaryCo 5 cents on the dollar to buy all the fireworks, but killaryCo declined. And I read in a blog but was unable to independently verify, that she cancelled 3 campaign rally appearances in swing states, scheduled for the final Sat-Sun-Mon before Nov 8. (I believe...) word had come down from (((above))), that they were handing it to DT; my hypothesis being that their last minute change of plans stemmed from the threat to their whole bagel cart posed by PG.

Additionally, they rolled out their "Fake News" psyop during election week itself. Their new weaponized "Fake News" term began getting kicked around beginning at least by Wed Nov 9, as they scrambled not only to explain why DT won despite their prior months of aggressively gaslighting the public about EEEvil>:DTrump & the inevitability of Angelic:)&killary's installment, but also to try to snuff out PG. That was when PG was still in its infancy! How much bigger, as in "people who know and are following" is PG today, than in the week of last Nov's fake election? TPTB apparently knew even then, that their PG "control system" was going to so enrage the public, it was going to have legs, and they "reeled" and united all their tribes to (try to) snuff out PG... including throwing Angelichttp://gold-silver.us/forum/images/s...20%2866%29.gifkillary under the bus in favor of wildcard DT.

It hasn't worked... --H H--

I just throw that out there to evidence that the PG iceberg tip's emerging in late Oct did come as a curve ball to their well laid plans... also recall, published Thu Nov 10:
President Donald Trump: The Art of the Deal | Memory Hole
IMHO as always. :cool:


Moving on to Seaman updates; was trawling for the latest YT buzz on the matter, and happy to see some "sympathetic" voices upload vids in the past ~24 hrs. Of the few I watched, I'd say this guy prolly does the best job,

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SaXeXyKUg_Y/h...XqMW8dQnhQ5K9o
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David Seaman Shill EXPOSED ! #PIzzaGate
Wolves And Sheeple

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Published on Feb 26, 2017
Is David Seaman a paid shill? Is David Seaman a member of the controlled opposition? Is David being paid by the Zionists in Israel? Does David Seaman and Alex Jones work together as gatekeepers? Look at how hard I 100% confirmed exposed the disinfo shill government agent that i also Jewish and popular and has a lot of subs, and makes money. Case closed! 100% !

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^ His "message" is not what the title infers; that's apparently for clicks; trick people thirsting for "Seaman's blood" into watching it. Nice to see, coz that first ~day after Sat evening, YT was mostly saturated with vids with the same "Seaman SHILL EXPOSED!! DELETED ALL HIS CONTENT IN A PANIC!! MUST SEE!!" toned noise, matching the tone of that 5 hour anti-Seaman roundtable pod from Jeff C. And their "message" was vitriolic indeed... :rolleyes:

This YT search should pull up all "new" YT vids up'd in the past 24 hrs, with "Seaman" in their titles (or desc's):
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=se...IIAg%253D%253D

Really enjoyed Wolves and Sheeple's commentary. Much good and much help in it. Will try to watch his other videos.

One big problem "we in the conspiracy corner" have always had is the notion of "evidence."

Dr. Fetzer takes the objective scientific scholarly examination of what he calls "evidence."

Ah, there's the rub.

We just do not have evidence of the kind that is considered solid legal evidence. And that for a couple of reasons.

We do not have access the all the data. FOIA requests are increasingly not responded to for various "reasons", most all of them looking illegal.

The sophisticated, deep state fakery of everything, including what we call "evidence." is the matrix we have to live in and deal with.

We do have to uphold and cling to quality reasoning and true, not false, principles.

I think I have heard Dr. Fetzer, a philosophy, logic, scientific reasoning professor, say that sometimes you can calculate the sum of little irregularities / anomalies that by themselves do not constitute evidence, but a large number of irregularities appearing in short time frame taken together can equal real evidence.

I just am a deep skeptic by heart and will argue anything just to play devil's advocate and maybe get to more truth that way. I have skepticism about Dr. Fetzer's ideas to a fairly large extent too.

I even see some serious flaws in the Wolves and Sheeple YT channel commentator on this subject video about David Seaman, though I do appreciate his reasoned balanced approach.

I guess my traditional Catholic training and thinking is what makes me argue everything. I was raised up to believe " true Faith AND Reason " go together and do not contradict each other, which is a foundationally Catholic way of thinking. Faith to us is based on an intellectual ascent to the truths revealed to us by God as proposed to us by the magisterium of the Church. It is all about dogmas and doctrines for the traditional Catholic, not just about saying you accept the Lord as your personal savior and then you are "saved." (Of course, the Church via Vatican II and a long string of anti-popes has pushed the Church under ground and not apparently visible these days.)

We will never "move humanity forward" or make this planet a better place without true faith in the One Who is Truth. But the goal is not really about "moving humanity forward" -- it is about each individual living person being given the best shot at going to heaven.

One day in my office I had to leave to go serve on a jury. One of my co-workers yelled out to all of us something like ' Oh Geez, Dachsie's going to jury duty -- hung jury here we come! '

Dachsie, did you ever look at the thread,
Thread: Who Rewrote the Bible? Dr. Lorraine Day on Spingola

On Fetzer, he's concerned me for at least a decade. There've been little 'anomalies' in his shtick, stories which I won't type up in "proper detail" here; but in general there's something about his reciting his impressive resume (xx years uni prof re scientific reasoning/logic, xx book co/authors, etc), and then his getting so "emotional" in his stated beliefs in shows/interviews discussing the conspiracies du jour, or conventional politics.

Like, one minute he's deconstructing our fraudulent "elections", and the next he's singing the praises of xyz politician and why he's "voting" for them...:rolleyes:

I've heard him more than once profess how he was "duped" into voting for O'Bummer on '08, then how he was "duped again" into voting for him again in '12! And this past year+ he's been a full on Trump fanboy... where is DT on 911 Truth, or mideast wars for izzy, or all the FF/hoaxes, or JFK, or the holohoax... IE fetzer's core areas of CT interest/discussion/writing?! They're at odds! So, our esteemed logic/reason prof JF, assuming he's fully sincere & not compromised, has an apparent issue with letting his emotions get ahead of his logic/reason expertise.

Wouldn't proper logic have him drop all discussion of this vs that candidate, and just go full bore on discussing reforming our fake elections?! The fake outcomes from which we learn whether this or that candidate gets installed?! I feel his "playing both sides" of discussing/writing re CT world one minute, and then conventional blue-pill politics as if they were "real" the next, does his listeners a disservice! I haven't "voted" since '04! :cool:



Moving on, I just started playing this 50 min jobee, should be interesting. Recall Random Ryan did a short vid on this lady 1-2 weeks ago, see his 10 min: Pizzagate researcher Liz Crokin THREATENED/ASSAULTED! Make this go VIRAL!


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PkALgGQuod4/h...1JFCA7ANj5h8VQ
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Interview: Liz Crokin | Threatened and Assaulted for Covering Pizzagate & Clinton Corruption
The Liberty Columnist

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Published on Feb 26, 2017
Hollywood Journalist and Award Winning Author, Liz Crokin, gives an interview to The Liberty Columnist about the recent acts of assault against her since her decision to cover corruption into the Clinton Foundation and Pizzagate/Pedogate.

FULL INTERVIEW

Including...

Early Career
Accomplishments
Background
Passion
The Clinton Foundation
The Shadow Government
Hillary and Bill Clinton
Pizzagate/Pedogate
etc

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Well said regarding Dr. Fetzer. I have listened to and followed him since 2004 when this arch liberal came on as a guest on arch conservative Dr. Stanley Monteith's radio shows. I was attracted to both of these men's ideas because I regard them both as highly intelligent and it is one of my weaknesses that I get wowed by that trait. But I always felt intense uneasiness and sensed the incongruities in his presentations but never could express it as well as PatColo just did.

Those who live and breathe the typical liberal ideology in a convincing intelligent way never seem to perceive the elephant (no R elephant pun intended but nice anyway) in the living room, that is, their very tight reasoning and entire presentation style doesnt really make a lick of sense and is full of holes and incongruities.

I have withdrawn from following closely Dr. Fetzer's blog since my last comment was first posted and then deleted by whoever current moderator is. Still like the good articles he does post there. He has a really good one recently regarding Hillary body doubles. Dr. Fetzer's host site for his weekly shows has sort of changed often and floated all over the place. Best I can tell his Real Deal shows are part of Gary King YT channel and he does regular visits on Jeff Rense show but that may end soon as so many such relationships seem to end sooner rather than later.

I was going to order one of his recent books on Moon Rock books but see where he has gone Hollywood and you have to pay extra for a personal inscription / autograph of the inside cover of the book. May still order if they ever start selling e copies.

Again, still like his intelligent fast moving commentary and articles, and I like the way he breaks into laughter and seems to have a good sense of humor and be "a regular guy." I liked the way he was able to have nice nonconfrontational conversations with Dr. Stan, a person at the very opposite end of the political spectrum.

I always saw his Type A, quick temper thing but discounted that as something common in very smart people. They just lose patience with we common folk on the lower IQ rungs.

The few times I tried to argue with him or get through to him on something that seemed perfectly clear and logical to me, he absolutely just seemed to not get it at all.

To end on a more positive note, he has provided a large body of documentation and permanently preserved in writing and now in several hard copy books regarding every false flag event since 1963. That is invaluable.

^ well said. :)

speaking of killary's body doubles, vlogger Barry Soetero put this up overnight:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fgUACd3x18k/h...jSDCijVuQAPU2A
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Obama BODY DOUBLE (NYC) at Soho Dinner!

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A bit more on Fetzer: I was awake to (((9/11))) since late '03, and by ~'05 when Fetz emerged on the 9/11 Truth scene, I'd totally gotten over the left v right paradigm, and recognized it as an impedance to 911T... which completely transcended all "L v R politics."

Well JF was fast making the 911T interview rounds, and was even on FAUX News with Hannity (& Colmbs? don't recall). That appearance was suspect in itself! Thing was, at every appearance he made, he would by way of "introduction", and unsolicited, recite a several minute long spiel about his credentials as a dyed in the wool Librul.... cutting into the finite time available to discuss the facts of 911T! :( And I thought, he's here to infiltrate/disrupt! Coz his consistent & unsolicited LvR "framing" of 911T he was doing with his 'I'm a Super-Librul!' opening spiels, was only counter-productive to 911T, and JF was a big enough boy to know that!!

There've been a bunch of little incidents between then and now which made me question, even 'conclude' for a while, that JF was a spook, a "deep cover" infiltrator/disrupter. But after every such event which caused me cog-diss at best about him; he'd seem to slowly "rehabilitate", and I'd gradually, guardedly, allow him back into my house/brain.

His coming out on the right side of holohoax truth 2-3 years ago, and his leading & effective role in FF/hoaxed 'event' debunking since Dec '12's Sandy Hoax event, have him in pretty good standing with me at the moment. :) But I'm constantly wary of what he may pull out of his sleeve tomorrow. :rolleyes:


New from The HoneyBee;

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/P7Byj_VmIlI/h...0tNOY0mhLsLGPQ
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PEDOGATE: The Ties Run Deep - Clark, Humer, and Koons

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One Obama is one too many!

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Originally Posted by PatColo

^ well said. :)

speaking of killary's body doubles, vlogger Barry Soetero put this up overnight:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fgUACd3x18k/h...jSDCijVuQAPU2A
6:37
Obama BODY DOUBLE (NYC) at Soho Dinner!

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• 6 hours ago

A bit more on Fetzer: I was awake to (((9/11))) since late '03, and by ~'05 when Fetz emerged on the 9/11 Truth scene, I'd totally gotten over the left v right paradigm, and recognized it as an impedance to 911T... which completely transcended all "L v R politics."

Well JF was fast making the 911T interview rounds, and was even on FAUX News with Hannity (& Colmbs? don't recall). That appearance was suspect in itself! Thing was, at every appearance he made, he would by way of "introduction", and unsolicited, recite a several minute long spiel about his credentials as a dyed in the wool Librul.... cutting into the finite time available to discuss the facts of 911T! :( And I thought, he's here to infiltrate/disrupt! Coz his consistent & unsolicited LvR "framing" of 911T he was doing with his 'I'm a Super-Librul!' opening spiels, was only counter-productive to 911T, and JF was a big enough boy to know that!!

There've been a bunch of little incidents between then and now which made me question, even 'conclude' for a while, that JF was a spook, a "deep cover" infiltrator/disrupter. But after every such event which caused me cog-diss at best about him; he'd seem to slowly "rehabilitate", and I'd gradually, guardedly, allow him back into my house/brain.

His coming out on the right side of holohoax truth 2-3 years ago, and his leading & effective role in FF/hoaxed 'event' debunking since Dec '12's Sandy Hoax event, have him in pretty good standing with me at the moment. :) But I'm constantly wary of what he may pull out of his sleeve tomorrow. :rolleyes:


New from The HoneyBee;

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/P7Byj_VmIlI/h...0tNOY0mhLsLGPQ
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PEDOGATE: The Ties Run Deep - Clark, Humer, and Koons

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I received an email today from David Seaman from my signing up for a free one month subscription to his service.

Here is the text of the email...


Note From David

I got the word I would be attacked a lot this week. "Character assassination."

Let them do it. Let them say whatever they want. I helped get the word out in time, and that changes history. Fake News corporate media, owned by the people who lost the election, does not represent truth or knowledge or wisdom.

I just don't want to see it. I'm somewhere safe and will return to my usual media schedule next week sometime. It is tedious to reply to their made-up theories about me. They use the same playbook all the time- it's called Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals."

I don't recommend you read it. It will lower your energy level; it's a book about manipulating people and breaking people, rather than healing through love and insight. But, of course, many in the political class are still operating out of that old paradigm where they need to break and harm us, bend us to their will. I opt out of that paradigm, as should each of you.

Anyone with half a mind knows I did not go through what I went through over the last 4 months to promote an out of print Internet marketing textbook I wrote 9 years ago. Anyone with a half a heart knows I did not become one of the first US journalists to call out the ring's child trafficking in order to make money from a gold company's affiliate program. And anyone who is a friend knows I do not like George Soros. I've read his books, he has a legendary financial mind (or did until recently), and he has used his wealth and power to make our world less safe, less beautiful, and more fear-based.

That's not acceptable. Ironically, some of the groups calling me a Soros shill are likely financed by him. Why do that? Well, it's in Rules for Radicals- these are not nice people.

As for my YouTube, the videos have been deleted for legal reasons. I will be able to discuss this more next week, when I return to my regular public schedule.

God bless you all and thank you for being people of great integrity, people who aren't swayed by the flicker of dishonest people on TV and dishonest bloggers at Buzzfeed and elsewhere.

A new world is ahead. Not a new world order, as they intended. A free world.


-David Seaman

Jake Morphonios ~ EndTimesNewsReport Episode 2

http://youtu.be/CBdqTJi0eFA

https://youtu.be/CBdqTJi0eFA