Re: 12 shot dead at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Aurora, Colorado
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Originally Posted by
Dogman
Now that is interesting!
The press conference that was just broadcast, the chief of police said that the first responders were at the scene within 1-2 minuets, from the first 911 call.
They might have been there, but wouldn't/couldn't go into the theater because of the gas. (?)
Re: 12 shot dead at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Aurora, Colorado
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Originally Posted by
k-os
They might have been there, but wouldn't/couldn't go into the theater because of the gas. (?)
Good question! People had to be poring out of that place, once they clued unto what was going on. But I do not buy them doing nothing for 20-30 minuets. Will try and post the news conference that was shown on CNN less than one hour ago, once I can find it.
Text here/ says also video but can not find it yet.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1690270.html
Re: 12 shot dead at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Aurora, Colorado
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Originally Posted by
k-os
They might have been there, but wouldn't/couldn't go into the theater because of the gas. (?)
Isn't a gas mask standard SWAT equipment?
Re: 12 shot dead at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Aurora, Colorado
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Originally Posted by
old steel
It is being reported the shooter entered the the theater from an emergency exit.
How do you do that when emergency exits open from inside out?
Supposedly someone is saying there was a guy that took a call during the movie then went to the emergency exit and possibly signaled someone. Who knows....
Re: 12 shot dead at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Aurora, Colorado
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Originally Posted by
Dogman
Now that is interesting!
The press conference that was just broadcast, the chief of police said that the first responders were at the scene within 1-2 minuets, from the first 911 call.
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Yep, then if the police did show up that fast then they waited for him to finish shooting then walked out the back, gave himself up and was never shot at. Sounds very much like Columbine and like Virginia Tech.
Re: 12 shot dead at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Aurora, Colorado
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Originally Posted by
slvrbugjim
Yep, then if the police did show up that fast then they waited for him to finish shooting then walked out the back, gave himself up and was never shot at. Sounds very much like Columbine and like Virginia Tech.
It would not have taken long for the shooter to go through several magazines. You can pray and spray even being semi-auto, a bunch of lead in less than one or two minuets 20-30 round mags can be emptied very quickly.
Edit: One shot per second, time it yourself, one minuet and 60 shots semi-aimed down range easy to do.
Re: 12 shot dead at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Aurora, Colorado
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Originally Posted by
slvrbugjim
Yep, then if the police did show up that fast then they waited for him to finish shooting then walked out the back, gave himself up and was never shot at. Sounds very much like Columbine and like Virginia Tech.
??? Is this true? I know it's true about Columbine. I can attest, having gone through police training. Columbine changed active shooter response tactics. We were trained to go in asap and go directly to the active shooter to minimize loss of life. It's the most dangerous situation we were trained for.
Columbine was studied, what the police could have done better. Those changes became a standard (I believe) for law enforcement across the nation.
It's hard to imagine the first cops on scene would not go in immediately.
Re: 12 shot dead at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Aurora, Colorado
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Originally Posted by
horseshoe3
Isn't a gas mask standard SWAT equipment?
I would imagine that any organization that uses gas should have gas masks as standard equipment. So, my answer is that if it's not standard SWAT equipment, it should be.
Re: 12 shot dead at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Aurora, Colorado
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Originally Posted by
slowbell
??? Is this true? I know it's true about Columbine. I can attest, having gone through police training. Columbine changed active shooter response tactics. We were trained to go in asap and go directly to the active shooter to minimize loss of life. It's the most dangerous situation we were trained for.
Columbine was studied, what the police could have done better. Those changes became a standard (I believe) for law enforcement across the nation.
It's hard to imagine the first cops on scene would not go in immediately.
More than likely the shooter was done with his shooting and trying to leave by the time the cops got there. See my above post.
Re: 12 shot dead at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Aurora, Colorado
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Originally Posted by
slowbell
??? Is this true? I know it's true about Columbine. I can attest, having gone through police training. Columbine changed active shooter response tactics. We were trained to go in asap and go directly to the active shooter to minimize loss of life. It's the most dangerous situation we were trained for.
Columbine was studied, what the police could have done better. Those changes became a standard (I believe) for law enforcement across the nation.
It's hard to imagine the first cops on scene would not go in immediately.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...86J0AM20120720
:...Arriving on the scene within 90 seconds of the first emergency calls, officers immediately took the suspect into custody in the parking lot behind the cinema, where he surrendered without a fight, Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said...."
