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Bingo. The movie exposes them. A lot of scientists realized we were making this movie and decided to get on the right side of history. In their circles they are talking about the new discoveries. Cosmology is in a crisis, but they put forward a unified face, but it is breaking down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hatha Sunahara
This is going to go viral.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neuro
Who are 'we'?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnQPublic
Linky?
Lnky to whaty? The trailer is linked. The controversy is in the movie (coming spring 2014).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cebu_4_2
If you want some background, see this thread: http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...20-Geocentrism
Anything that gives Michio Crapoo top billing is ALWAYS suspect.
He is liberal Globalist bootlicker.
Did you notice the propraganda in the trailer
Anytime they mention that god made a mistake what are the images that you see ?
Churches and Jesus statue.
What in the subliminal message : it is the christian god that is in error.
Michio is ultimately on the other side in the movie, but he is very popular and very entertaining, so he does play well in the trailer. This is real Hollywood, but believe me, the Christian view gets a fair shake in this movie. Even the geocentrists sit at the same table as the establishment big bang relativists. No establishment control in this film. Believe me, there is going to be a firestorm around this movie. Movie trailers are designed to rile people to get them to go to the movie. Obviously it worked with you. http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/cool.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Titan
Did you catch the theme "Are you significant"? YES you are, no matter what Carl Sagan or Lawrence Krauss says. George Ellis is also in the movie, and he has a definite Christian perspective (though he is not formally a geocentrist).
Let me add, John Hartnett ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ha...28physicist%29 ) has a lot to say also, and he is a staunch Christian and creationist. So the movie represents a broad Christian view around these issues.
Did you catch the quotes I posted yesterday? Max Tegmark is an establishment scientist, and read what he said. The first two quotes represent the reaction to what is happening in cosmology (largely behind the scenes). This is very significant. I believe the big bang model is dead, even in establishment circles. Inflation has become untenable (due to the signal pointing back to the earth from the farthest reaches of the universe), and without inflation, the big bang would have been dead 20 years ago. Establishment scientists are beginning to publicly jump ship (such as Dagan Hutterer). I believe knowledge this movie was filmed has accelerated the pace.
"There is a crisis in cosmology..."
Michio Kaku
"It's an exciting time in cosmology, because everything has changed..."
Lawrence Krauss
"Life is extremely rare, ..., we are in fact the only life in our entire universe and I actually think we are very significant..."
Max Tegmark
When a complete trivialization is needed, all sides will be required to participate in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnQPublic
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Originally Posted by JohnQPublic
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Originally Posted by Neuro
back up for later
Gravity is a push.
http://keelynet.com/gravity/wright.htm
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Originally Posted by Bigjon
Very possible.
Ahh yes, I see the universe is meant to rotate about such other monstrous egos...^ ^ ^ ^
Are you a producer of this movie, or are you working on the set? Why don't you answer my questions?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnQPublic
I have been working with the producers of the film for years especially around the idea of geocentrism. I am involved in the project in more of an advisory role plus do a lot of internet work. Sorry, Neuro. I am not trying to ignore you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neuro
for those who don't want to see the ad every time a new page opens, if you use a Flash-blocker with your web browser, there is no preview.
Firefox Flash Blocker -
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...on/flashblock/
You also can use adblock and totally block the frame, Poof = Gone , and things are back to what could be called normal. (Whateverinthehellthatis)
Here is Krauss (and Dawkins) in The Unbelievers. Lovely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Titan
http://youtu.be/ZxDLkoK8vQQ
For the record, I am not trying to force the film on all of you. I have already presented it. You can take it or leave it. I put it there for passers by. Who can resist playing a youtube?Quote:
Originally Posted by gunDriller
How about some Death Metal next week?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnQPublic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uRyaYkymJY
Got bored after 8 minutes of self promotion! Synopsis?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnQPublic
It talks about the movie, shares some clips, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neuro
Did you at least get past the promotions for Michael Voris (he runs the website)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neuro
In the eight minutes I watched nothing was said re Geocentrism...Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnQPublic
Egoic expansion is an integral part of Geocentrism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neuro
Interesting happenings.
It started with Lawrence Krauss who came out and said "he did not recall" doing the interview. This prompted Kate Mulgrew (Captain Janeway), who studied the script for 2 weeks then read the entire narration into a microphone to say that she did not know what the movie was about (go figure)! After that there was a media fury including Time magazine blog, Huffington Post, PopSci, etc. During this other scientists distanced themselves. Max Tegmark, who was interviewed twice and had a consulting contract with the movie and a long email chain discussing the Copernican Principle and implications for it relative to the CMB anisotropies, complained that he and others were tricked into making a "non-normal" cosmology movie! Poor Max (Mad Max?). The producer was very disappointed, because he really liked Max Tegmark.
"The Principle" Has A Major Announcement To Make!
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014, at 8pm Eastern, on Michael Voris' "Mic'd Up" show streaming worldwide on ChurchMilitant TV, the Executive Producer and Producer of "The Principle" will officially announce our release date and additional particulars concerning our upcoming theatrical distribution!
Heads up!- we will also be addressing in delicious and hilarious detail the various claims which have been advanced concerning our alleged preternatural powers to hypnotize the smartest guys in the world into interviews so we could cleverly edit them into saying they are all geocentrists, and to somehow manage to have Captain Janeway read the entire script of the film into the microphone without ever having understood what the film was about.
Also, we will address just who might have…you know…sort of "pushed the button" on this comical media narrative, which spread throughout the internet in twenty four short hours.
Who was behind this amazing example of media buffoonery?
(HINT: It Ain't The Jews!)
Do.
Not.
Miss.
This.
One!
Tally-ho and away we go!
I think this is the first time in my life I've be afraid of asking a question. lol!:)
Be afraid. Be very afraid. --)Quote:
Originally Posted by Horn
The Conspiracy Theorist Who Duped The World's Biggest Physicists
Popular Science spoke with Rick DeLano, whose movie The Principle shows the world's most famous cosmologists promoting the idea that the Earth is the center of the universe.
OH THANK GOD: Kate Mulgrew Is Mad About the Geocentric Documentary, Too
All you people who called her "too stupid to live" should probably apologize.
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"Yesterday, we ended the day on a major bummer when we learned that Kate Mulgrew, the actor best known for playing Captain Kathryn Janeway in Star Trek: Voyager, would be narrating a documentary backed by geocentrists and Holocaust deniers. Today, she’s set the record straight."
I can tell you how Lawrence Krauss ended up in our film. He signed a release form and cashed a check
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"This week, The Raw Story created a small avalanche of publicity for a forthcoming movie that was otherwise struggling in obscurity. Called The Principle, it has Star Trek actress Kate Mulgrew as its narrator, and it also features the participation of noted scientists Lawrence Krauss (pictured above) and Michio Kaku.
But it was brought to our attention that one of the film’s executive producers is a controversial man named Robert Sungenis, a dedicated Catholic who is convinced that his church was right and Galileo was wrong when they clashed several centuries ago over the ideas of Copernicus, the Renaissance astronomer who promoted the idea that it was the Sun, not the Earth, at the center of the universe, with the Earth revolving around the Sun. (Later, of course, we realized that the Sun also isn’t the center of the universe — our solar system isn’t even near the center of our own galaxy.)"
The Sun Revolves Around You? Narcissism on a Cosmic Scale
Huffington Post
"Lawrence Krauss, a cosmologist at Arizona State university who directs the "Origins" project, discovered that some public-domain video clips of himself had been co-opted for the film. He was less tactful in describing Sungenis' geocentrism and holocaust denial: "It is tempting to say that both claims are obscene nonsense, but I believe that does a disservice to the word 'nonsense'."
Note the bolded statement is an outright lie. JQP
The Rachel Maddow Show / The MaddowBlog
This Week in God, 4.12.14
"By all appearances, the film is a pretty slick production, narrated by Kate Mulgrew (yes, Captain Janeway from “Star Trek: Voyager”). It wasn’t long before lots of confused people started asking why notable figures from the worlds of science and entertainment would want anything to do with this fringe “documentary.”
The answer, it turns out, is that they didn’t do so knowingly. Krauss, for example, wrote a Slate piece this week explaining, “I have no recollection of being interviewed for such a film, and of course had I known of its premise I would have refused. So, either the producers used clips of me that were in the public domain, or they bought them from other production companies that I may have given some rights to distribute my interviews to, or they may have interviewed me under false pretenses, in which case I probably signed some release. I simply don’t know.”
Several other actual scientists featured in the film soon followed, saying they had been misled into participating in the project. For her part, Mulgrew this week issued a statement through Facebook, forcefully rejecting geocentrism and explaining that she’d been “misinformed” about the true nature of the film. The actor added that she “would most certainly have avoided” the project if she knew the truth about the filmmakers’ intended agenda."
Kate Mulgrew Speaks Out Against Geocentrism Film
TrekCore
"Bottom line: nobody panic. Captain Janeway doesn't really believe that modern science is all wrong... she just booked the wrong gig. While her overall role in the film is yet to be determined, remember that when it comes to voiceover work, participants can often have no idea of the overall tone or purpose of a production outside of their own area of participation."
Of course, the fact that she had the script 2 weeks before, and read the narration into the microphone might have some impact on her knowing what the film [that she, ummm, narrated] was about. But, hey don't let facts get in the way of a good Trek story!
The Cosmological Principle and geocentrism
"You may have heard of the documentary film “The Principle” written and produced in the US by Rick DeLano, which is to be released in the Spring of 2014. It features interviews with a line-up of notable cosmologists including Michio Kaku, Laurence Krauss, and Max Tegmark. Many are big bang cosmologists who support the standard paradigm, whose proponents hold to a worldview which assumes there is no privileged frame of reference in the Universe. Others interviewed hold to alternate cosmological worldviews, notably those who hold to the idea that the Earth is in a privileged place in the Universe. I am interviewed in the film."