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So here's a podcast by Jeff Nodolny on the vanishing of people in the wilderness. Bill Cooper, Ross Perot, George Bush senior, Phil Schneirder, Harry Truman, Isenhauer and others are mentioned and played a roll in the story he tells.
You'll have to make of it what you will.
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This is the story of Travis Walton that vanished for five days in 1975. The Sherriff thought his co-workers must have murdered him but he showed up five days later. When he did show up he had a hell of a story to tell.
You may have to go to youtube to watch this since I'm having trouble getting It to show up here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXm1Hyc-EL0&t=27s
https://youtu.be/xXm1Hyc-EL0?si=zwA7Nn6BD56pO3j2
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Travis Waltons story has not been embellished or changed even ONE time. Very very credible.
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A death bed confession by a Federal Park Ranger in North Dakota.
He found two people dead that had been fed on.
He gets to looking around and hears growling.
Two dogmen show up and he shoots one dead with a 45-70.
He goes to jail for refusing to sigh a non disclosure agreement.
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Here's a story from Base Camp Chris and it kind of hits home with me. I've been in the Wyoming Badlands at night, on bad, narrow winding roads pulling a horse trailer.
This is the story of a woman in the Wyoming Badlands near Dubois, Wy. and her three dogs.
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Hmmm, im heading out for a combo elk/ fishing trip in a few weeks... in dubois .
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This is kind of an interesting story from Base camp Chris.
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Base comp Chris tells the story of a ranch hand in northwest Wyoming near Cody.
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Base Camp Chris again with another story about two young guys and two young girls hitchhiking in Canada.
All of them could have vanished in the wilderness pretty easily. It's not good to be hitch hiking and especially when it gets dark.
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Base Camp Chris has some stories from Yellowstone, the Tetons and the areas around them. I've been on pack trips in the Yellowstone back country in some of the areas he talks about. He tells some stories of things that were going on in the 80's and that's the time period I was in the park back country. I was also outside of the park in the early 80's in the Thouroghfare country when something came in to our camp at night. I've told that story I think in an earlier post.
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Base Camp Chris has some stories from Yellowstone, the Tetons and the areas around them. I've been on pack trips in the Yellowstone back country in some of the areas he talks about. He tells some stories of things that were going on in the 80's and that's the time period I was in the park back country. I was also outside of the park in the early 80's in the Thouroghfare country when something came in to our camp at night. I've told that story I think in an earlier post.
I can see GTNP from my deck. Let me tell you, the national parks are fracked up. There is something dark about them. My theory is that when isenhowerstein made that deal with the aliens that he granted them permission to use them as a base of operations. I stay in the natl forest and always go armed to the teeth and with a dog. Ive had enough strange things happen there, but GTNP there are small groups of aspens.. OLD ones twisted like you would a dandelion all the way from the base to the top. Yet NO branches broke.
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One of Steve Isdahls buddies has a channel I just came across.
He's in Canada and he gets a long ways off in to the wilderness at times.
He has an interesting story to tell of some people he ran into in the remote wilderness that spooked him. Starts at the 19:00 minute mark
He also has several stories of people that have written to him of encounters they've had that are pretty interesting too. Starts at the 38:00 minute mark
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I cant wait for spring! I need to get back in the woods!
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Fred is interviewed in this video by a woman that has a lot of good questions and this video has a lot of information.
Fred believes people who have vanished in the wilderness have run in to these things but there are other reasons people disappear also.
Some information included on killing and them eating people.
Interview begins at the 3:00 time mark.
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Fred Roehl takes you on a four wheeler tour of woods and a valley in Alaska.
Spectacular scenery in the valley where he ends up with close up views of glacier Ice and an ice cave.
The valley is infamous because it's a valley where a serial killer with a bush plane would take young women, turn them loose then hunt them.
It's said he killed 17 of them and maybe more before he was caught.
It's another way people have vanished in the wilderness.
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I'm going to put a video below of another interview of Fred Roehl. He adds to some of the things he's said in other interviews that are interesting;
The photography that rolls through the interview is spectacular and my guess is they are all photos of Alaska.
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I've about given up posting anything in this thread because so many of the stories on the net are fiction. So many people are trying to make a living with a youtube channel and they make shit up to get views.
There are only a few like Fred Roehl that I think are honest and actually retell the stories he gathers that are real accounts of what people have encountered.
I've got the feeling that Steve Isdahl is reading stories mostly for the money too, even though he claims not to be.
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I think they are all phony....JMO.
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I think they are all phony....JMO.
Lots of people think it's all phony then one day they see one and it scares the shit out of them and they apologize to everyone they made fun of and they never want to see another one. :)
Here's a David Paulides interview that's interesting.
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Its all phony.... until it isnt.
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The person that wrote this story is a good story teller but it's fiction. I've been fooled a few times because I didn't look long enough and some of the story tellers won't tell you it's fiction.
This is what I found on that site.
Any resemblance to real people, living or dead, or to actual events is purely coincidental. Our goal is to bring dark and chilling entertainment to those who love feeling that shiver down their spine. Do you enjoy dark narratives that awaken the deepest fears? Then dive into our collection
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Here's a David Paulides video with a story of a woman in the general area where I spend time.
The story of this disappearance begins at the 21:00 time mark.
She was on the South Dakota and Wyoming border.
Paulides says there are lots of disappearances on the Wyoming side of the line but not so many on the South Dakota side.
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Fred Roehl has a pretty good guest on his podcast with interesting stories to tell.
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I might disappear one of these days because it's getting harder to get logged in and I don't remember my password.
Here's a tale that Fred Roehl tells about a fellow he knows and his experience with some hairy men that wanted to kill him and his dog.
They got his dog and tried to use it to lure him in.
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This is a Fred Roehl story that takes three videos to tell. There's truth in these stories and I know because Indians work long enough to get some money to drink and then they're gone on a drunk as long as the money and liquor last. Sounds like the Indians are the same where I live as they are in Alaska;
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I've got a black 45-70 Henry lever gun with a side gate I was shooting this afternoon. It's shooting right on the money too.
If I have to put a round in a bigfoots eye I think I could do it with this gun and it would take the back of it's head off. {0}
one of the guys in the last three videos did that and it caused a lot of trouble. :o
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In Episod
e 514: Terror In The LBL we are joined by Martin Groves, a retired sheriff, who recently started speaking publicly about his horrific experience in the Land Between The Lakes (LBL) back in 1993. Martin and his hunting partner, who was also a police officer, went on a weekend hunting trip that was supposed to be fun and relaxing. After spending some time in the LBL on their hunts and as nightfall approached, things turn to anything but relaxing. Martin recalls being stalked on his way back to camp where his partner was waiting for him. Then that night through a series of dramatic events, Martin and his partner came to realize that they were being hunted by three upright-walking dogmen. As one dogman came walking into their camp to show itself to them, there were two taunting them from the shadows. They fired upon the creatures and ran for the truck where they encounter more unexpected beasts. Martin and his partner escaped with their lives that night but one hunter not far from their camp wasn't so lucky. After this experience, Martin spent the next 20+ years of his law enforcement career quietly investigating these encounters people were having in the LBL. He's connected a lot of dots and wants to share what he's learned with everyone today in this two-part Overtime episode!
He has a book out with his story. "Beasts Between the Rivers" by Martin Groves.
Here's an update from Martin Groves on Dogmen and Bigfoot from 2024.
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I've got a black 45-70 Henry lever gun with a side gate I was shooting this afternoon. It's shooting right on the money too.
If I have to put a round in a bigfoots eye I think I could do it with this gun and it would take the back of it's head off. {0}
one of the guys in the last three videos did that and it caused a lot of trouble. :o
I haven't shot my 45-70 for quite a while. My shoulder appreciates it! :D
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Tony Merkle interviewed Joe Barger and it's a long one but interesting all the way through. He says he believes you need to use copper or silver to kill one of these things and that would go along with episode 66 on Vic Kundiffs site.
The dogman stories took place in Michigan in the Upper Peninsula. The story of him shooting one I can sure empathize with him because he's headed up hill with a heavy load and can only go about tweety five miles an hour. I hauled loads of paper when I was driving truck over the road and it would be pretty scarey to have a dogman looking in your passenger side window and trying to get in.
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Joe Barger's encounters don’t just blur the line between myth and reality; they obliterate it. In this episode, he recounts the night he came face-to-face with a Dogman and made a split-second decision that ended the creature’s life, an act that still follows him years later. But that moment was only one chapter in a much larger pattern that includes repeated Bigfoot encounters, territorial aggression in the woods, and intelligent creatures that seemed to understand weapons, intent, and fear. Joe describes behavior that goes far beyond animals, strategic movements, government intimidation displays, and moments that felt deliberately personal. As the stories stack up, a disturbing question emerges: what happens after you cross the line from witness to participant? This conversation explores the cost of survival, the reality of predatory entities in the wilderness, and why some encounters don’t end when you leave the woods; they follow you home.