Why are Feminists Surprised Their Daughters are Sl#ts?

by Henry Makow, Ph.D.

http://www.henrymakow.com/why_are_fe...prised_da.html

In a recent article "Outraged Moms, Trashy Daughters" by Anne Kingston, (Macleans, Aug 16, 2010) mothers lament that their daughters now see "empowerment" in terms of pleasuring males.

While the feminist mothers saw power as financial independence and rejected female "objectification," their daughters accept the pornographic message of pop music and advertising. In the words of one mom, they "believe their purpose in life is to be sexual beings who please men."

"A blow job is like shaking hands," said another mom. "Their attitude is: 'We're emancipated, we're liberated, we're in control. They see [it] as power; I see it as giving their power away."

Yes but: Who taught girls they could have sex outside of courtship, love and marriage?

Feminists did. Feminism brainwashed young women to see husbands as oppressors and family as bondage. There was no longer any reason to restrict sex to love and marriage.

Understandably, feminists don't want to admit their teachers have betrayed them. Feminism was created by elite social engineers to reduce population and undermine marriage and family.

Even while they wring their hands, feminists are blinded by their ideology. (The article veers off into a discussion of how feminism is still relevant.)

The words "love," "marriage," "husband" and "family" do not appear in the article. No wonder they can't understand the problem and what to do about it.

Both mothers and daughters are victims of deliberate social subversion. A woman's career used to be wife and mother. She consecrated her sexuality for the man she loved, the father of her children, her protector and provider.

Young women today are up a creek. They don't know how to be women and men don't know how to be men. But one thing that hasn't changed is - men don't marry sluts. These girls are going to be left high and dry once their sex appeal has faded.

They obsess on looking beautiful but don't know that true beauty comes from within, from a spiritual purity. This means rejecting all coarse influences and behavior. It means focusing on what is good, true, human and inspiring.

In the past, men had to prove their love and commitment before they could have sex. As a result, women were cherished and given a lifelong role (mother, wife) that satisfied their deepest emotional needs.

Now they have been reduced to amateur prostitutes and corporate widgets.

"I don't meet many girls who feel good about themselves, even though they are totally gorgeous," one social worker says.

How could they ... giving their bodies to strangers who dump them?

Girls figure they must give away sex or boys will get it from other girls. That's like saying, "if I don't let muggers rob and beat me, other girls will."

The other word totally absent from this article is "father." Girls could get love, self respect and guidance from their fathers. But I'm guessing their feminist mothers drove their fathers away.

It's not too late for girls to learn to be women again. There can be no sex without courtship and love. If other girls want to give it away, let them suffer the consequences.

Girls can become feminine again by making marriage and family their first priority. If they refocus, they can regain the path to fulfillment and happiness.

I just read that and wanted to post here too. That one is out of the ball-park.

none of these women were giving out handshakes when i was growing up. what bad timing for me. :boohoo

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Originally Posted by chad

none of these women were giving out handshakes when i was growing up. what bad timing for me. :boohoo

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Better to be STD free.

I completely agree. I see this all the time. And then these girls wonder why they cant find a decent guy. Or that they all treat em like crap.

I have a 20 yr old Daughter, and Ive told her since she was a little girl that "you cant demand respect, ya have to command it". Just look at the way the majority of these girls dress, act and talk. Bottom line? Ya act like a whore, you'd better be ready to be treated like one, and then don't bitch about it when you are.

So Paris Hilton is not a good role model?

:sarc:

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Originally Posted by Shorty Harris

I completely agree. I see this all the time. And then these girls wonder why they cant find a decent guy. Or that they all treat em like crap.

I have a 20 yr old Daughter, and Ive told her since she was a little girl that "you cant demand respect, ya have to command it". Just look at the way the majority of these girls dress, act and talk. Bottom line? Ya act like a whore, you'd better be ready to be treated like one, and then don't bitch about it when you are.

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Dude, I am soooooooooooo using that one liner.

I'll mail you Three Mercury Dimes for the royalty rights

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Originally Posted by Shorty Harris

I completely agree. I see this all the time. And then these girls wonder why they cant find a decent guy. Or that they all treat em like crap.

I have a 20 yr old Daughter, and Ive told her since she was a little girl that "you cant demand respect, ya have to command it". Just look at the way the majority of these girls dress, act and talk. Bottom line? Ya act like a whore, you'd better be ready to be treated like one, and then don't bitch about it when you are.

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So true. When you fish for bottom feeders you use skank bait. Dress and act like a skank-the sorry excuses for men you will attract will be bottom feeders...

It is getting almost impossible to find a woman who doesn't have self esteem or self respect issues. Or daddy issues.

Isn't it ironic that what used to be common sense to everybody 50 years ago is now 'fringe'?

Anyone with a little foresight saw what feminism would become.

there's a word for these girls in college...sorostitutes

I can't even stand next to most of these girls because of how many chemicals these girls drench themselves in to smell "pretty". It is absolutely disgusting!

http://www.blogs.com/palin.jpg

http://www.zimbio.com/Levi+Johnston/...hnston+Mayoral

The unmarried daddy of this kid is now running for mayor in Alaska...lol.

:D

Dear Feminists...

I am a thirteen year old girl... Is it a prerequisite for me to have an online webcam porno video available for viewing?

Thank you

Well,

Just as a data point from the other side,

I am a non-feminist woman happily married to my kids' biodad -- and, shockingly, I know, we were already married when they were conceived.

I have a lovely 19 y o daughter who keeps her knees together and her mouth shut who just got tossed by a guy she really thought was great, because he found a girl who not only shakes hands, but embraces with legs.

So where are all the young men who want nice girls?

*Actually that's not true about keeping her mouth shut. She talks too much. Maybe that's the REAL issue?

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Originally Posted by shakinginmyshoes

I have a lovely 19 y o daughter who keeps her knees together and her mouth shut who just got tossed by a guy she really thought was great, because he found a girl who not only shakes hands, but embraces with legs.

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Your daughter should be looking for a decent guy like her own father. Show her how you found him.

:)

I dunno, Book,

I've always said I got the last good guy in California.
How does one repeat a stroke of luck like that?

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Originally Posted by shakinginmyshoes

I have a lovely 19 y o daughter who keeps her knees together and her mouth shut who just got tossed by a guy she really thought was great, because he found a girl who not only shakes hands, but embraces with legs.

So where are all the young men who want nice girls?

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As a single guy, I'll answer this question. It's not that men don't want nice girls, we do. It's that nowadays, the natural progression of courtship, ie relationships, is so out of wack, that it's confusing for men.

A lot of women do use sex as a reward, ie prize to be given, to men...and thus, men get wrapped up into allowing that to affect their 'value' as men. It's hard not to fall into this trap.

For example, say a man starts dating a woman, and after a month or so things progress into sexual relationship...if that same gal slept with a guy in the past after one date. Doesn't that make that guy 'better' than the guy who had to wait a month? The guy she slept with after one date was a better man, a more high value man, who was rewarded sooner, than the other guy.

The sex is the prize to be won. The sooner the better. This seems to be the mentality in the singles dating game these days.

It's not right, it's not a healthy balance between men and women.


Say I meet a gal and things go great...how do I know she didn't sleep with the whole football team before?

It's confusing for men, we don't know anymore who the good gals are, and who the gals that are just using sex as a way to gain respect.

I don't want to be with a gal that thinks I will respect her more because of a long wait for sex. I want to be with a gal that respects that sex is between two people that love each other, and if I am that guy, fantastic.

Sex is a big part of any healthy relationship, for both men and women. For a woman, I'm sure it's hard to tell the men just out for sex, and for men, it's hard to tell the women who try to use sex as a reward, or a way to gain respect.

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Originally Posted by shakinginmyshoes

I dunno, Book,

I've always said I got the last good guy in California. How does one repeat a stroke of luck like that?

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Seriously shakinginmyshoes...most single guys here and elsewhere are looking for a wife raised like your daughter. She is only 19 and can afford to be very very very picky. Remind her that she is looking for a decent guy just like her father.

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Originally Posted by shakinginmyshoes

Well,

Just as a data point from the other side,

I am a non-feminist woman happily married to my kids' biodad -- and, shockingly, I know, we were already married when they were conceived.

I have a lovely 19 y o daughter who keeps her knees together and her mouth shut who just got tossed by a guy she really thought was great, because he found a girl who not only shakes hands, but embraces with legs.

So where are all the young men who want nice girls?

*Actually that's not true about keeping her mouth shut. She talks too much. Maybe that's the REAL issue?

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Which is all the more reason for a young lady to wait till she is more "womanly", as a man matures, so will his standards in a WOMEN But then again, that is dependent on how he was brought up.

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Originally Posted by Liquid

Say I meet a gal and things go great...how do I know she didn't sleep with the whole football team before?

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[img width=600 height=393]http://static.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/sex-and-the-city-wedding.jpg[/img]

Um...because she is a virgin and is saving it for her husband? You know...like most women did not that long ago before the recent Sex In The City teevee con job....lol.

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Originally Posted by Shorty Harris

I completely agree. I see this all the time. And then these girls wonder why they cant find a decent guy. Or that they all treat em like crap.

I have a 20 yr old Daughter, and Ive told her since she was a little girl that "you cant demand respect, ya have to command it". Just look at the way the majority of these girls dress, act and talk. Bottom line? Ya act like a whore, you'd better be ready to be treated like one, and then don't bitch about it when you are.

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Dude, I am soooooooooooo using that one liner.

I'll mail you Three Mercury Dimes for the royalty rights

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No Need TT, It was told to me when I was a lil boy. I'm just the messenger.

Thanks, Book,

I DO chalk the credit up to her dad for raising her well.
Dad's love for daughter is what gives us women the strength to say no.

Still, meeting other young people is a problem for young people. Always has been. Bars? Bad idea.
We live in a medium-sized town. The smart guys in her high school graduating class all went off to college out of state (because ours is not highly rated.) But we, her parents, being White and therefore not aided by Affirmative Action / gov't help, could only afford to send her to the jr. college in this town, where there aren't that many young men (mostly girls). She met one boy that she thought was great, and then he...

Anybody got suggestions for how to meet people online, while avoiding predators?

I agree she ought to wait to look for a husband. Tell HER that.

Shakinginmyshoes,

You are Phoenix's wife, aren't you?

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Originally Posted by sirgonzo420

Shakinginmyshoes,

You are Phoenix's wife, aren't you?

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That might explain why she's 'shakinginhershoes'. ;D

Kidding...only light-hearted fun. :)

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Originally Posted by shakinginmyshoes

Still, meeting other young people is a problem for young people. Always has been. Bars? Bad idea.
We live in a medium-sized town. The smart guys in her high school graduating class all went off to college out of state (because ours is not highly rated.) But we, her parents, being White and therefore not aided by Affirmative Action / gov't help, could only afford to send her to the jr. college in this town, where there aren't that many young men (mostly girls). She met one boy that she thought was great, and then he...

Anybody got suggestions for how to meet people online, while avoiding predators?

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http://www.avianweb.com/images/birds...tingRitual.jpg

Her hunt for a husband must be done in person. Face to face. Eye to eye. Men fall in love with their eyes...women with their ears. No way getting around this fundamental truth. She must go to the Man Hunting Ground in person...wherever that is...lol.

:)

just an opinion here, but at 19, she is a baby. i'd say she has more important things to figure out both about herself + life than be worried about finding a man at age 19.

"You are Phoenix's wife, aren't you?"

Heh.

I agree with much of what he says, but no.

My husband doesn't post on the internet too much. He's too busy running his business. *I* have time to post because what I do, I'm self -employed too, with a home business, (lactation consultant) but my work tends to come in spurts. (Pardon the pun. "Spurts." Mother's milk spurts... heh heh..er...ahem. Sorry)

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Originally Posted by Book

http://www.avianweb.com/images/birds...tingRitual.jpg

Her hunt for a husband must be done in person. Face to face. Eye to eye. Men fall in love with their eyes...women with their ears. No way getting around this fundamental truth. She must go to the Man Hunting Ground in person...wherever that is...lol.

:)

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LOL, indeed Book. The sooty grouse method is how a lot of dudes put on an act to impress women.

Wise advise though, however you can use online to meet people face to face. I've done that before. The best method seems to use online to first talk to someone over the phone. Then meet them face to face in a public setting, coffee shops are perfect. I've met a few gals that way, and it made them comfortable that I wasn't some crazy predator. I don't prefer to meet people online, but it can be used if done wisely.

I also agree with Chad, at 19 she's just a baby.

Thanks, Liquid,

Agreed she's a baby, but she's lonely.

It's good to know that non-crazies online are willing to do the things like talking on the phone first, then meet in a public place, so she can feel comfortable.

It seems kind of cruel to use as a default assumption that the guy might be a whackjob. Hate to hurt a good guy's feelings by being assuming guilty until he proves his innocence, so to speak, but what can you do?

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Originally Posted by shakinginmyshoes

So where are all the young men who want nice girls?

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In church.

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Originally Posted by Liquid

I also agree with Chad, at 19 she's just a baby.

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[img width=600 height=395]http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/2006/mitcannon/rradez-coed.1.jpg[/img]
MIT Coeds

Nah...19 is the natural prime age for mating and having children. Women who instead go to college and start their "career" in their prime have basically rejected natural motherhood for promiscuity, debt, and corporate slavery. Then at age 35 they finally try and compete with the younger ripe women for husbands...lol.

:D

Thanks,
Horseshoe.

We, her parents, screwed up just one thing raising her. We admitted our agnosticism and never joined a church.


Liquid,


if that same gal slept with a guy in the past after one date. Doesn't that make that guy 'better' than the guy who had to wait a month? The guy she slept with after one date was a better man, a more high value man, who was rewarded sooner, than the other guy.

I'll answer you with what I saw when I was single. I am 47, the first gen of women who grew up post-sexual revolution. I had good morals,but many of my women-acquaintances didn't. They bought the whole baloney.

Here's what I saw: If she slept with a guy after one date, then waited for a month with the next one, it's because the guy she waited with was BETTER. She discovered that sleeping together on the first date is disastrous for a long-term relationship. So the NEXT guy, she waited, and found out that THAT's the way to make love grow.
Sadly, today too many young women are INCAPABLE of love because they have "daddy issues" from feminist mom's poisoning her mind. So bedhopping sounds like fun.

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Originally Posted by shakinginmyshoes

It seems kind of cruel to use as a default assumption that the guy might be a whackjob. Hate to hurt a good guy's feelings by being assuming guilty until he proves his innocence, so to speak, but what can you do?

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Cheers, I wouldn't worry about hurting a guy's feelings, I've never taken it that way personally.

I should add, I have not had good success meeting people online. Women can be crazy too. Last gal I exchanged numbers with, I got busy and didn't call. I guess she took that the wrong way. She called me 5 times in one day, not counting massive text messages...each call got progressively more and more obscene.

Of couse I didn't return her calls, and for about a week after that, I recieved several calls and hang-ups a day. It finally tappered off and I was able to regain my sanity. ;D

I haven't tried online since. I have meet some decent people, but you really do have to be careful out there.

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Originally Posted by shakinginmyshoes

...So where are all the young men who want nice girls?
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I think this line form the article covers that (my underline):

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But one thing that hasn't changed is - men don't marry sluts.

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Who they date is another story all together. Guys will tell themselves the girl's past does not matter UNTIL it comes time to consider marriage.

In Europe many (most?) don't even bother to get married anymore. The institution has been ruined.

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Originally Posted by Liquid

I also agree with Chad, at 19 she's just a baby.

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[img width=600 height=395]http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/2006/mitcannon/rradez-coed.1.jpg[/img]
MIT Coeds

Nah...19 is the natural prime age for mating and having children. Women who instead go to college and start their "career" in their prime have basically rejected natural motherhood for promiscuity, debt, and corporate slavery. Then at age 35 they finally try and compete with the younger ripe women for husbands...lol.

:D

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who's that guy in the back on the far right side? lucky sob ;D

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Originally Posted by shakinginmyshoes

Here's what I saw: If she slept with a guy after one date, then waited for a month with the next one, it's because the guy she waited with was BETTER. She discovered that sleeping together on the first date is disastrous for a long-term relationship. So the NEXT guy, she waited, and found out that THAT's the way to make love grow.
Sadly, today too many young women are INCAPABLE of love because they have "daddy issues" from feminist mom's poisoning her mind. So bedhopping sounds like fun.

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Thanks for answering my question, and I agree. I should see it that way, it's a healthy way to look at it.

I think I've been single too long, and have too many really mess-up stories regarding gals I've met and dated...that I honesty have some trust issues with women.

I appreciate your insights, wish more women thought that way. ;)

Liquid,

I wonder about something:

What if, rather than being of the mindset, when will SHE reward YOU with sex, if you took leadership with a lady you've just met and held her at arm's length with a wry smile and said, No, you're going to have to wait.

I can imagine a lot of women getting weak in the knees at such a masterful approach (and it's WHAT she WANTS)

(Something like the movie Love at First Bite where Susan St. James tells George Hamilton, let's have sex. He says, no, I don't have time. She says, just a quickie? He says, For you, no quickies. Only Longies)

Along the mindset that people want what they can't have. A woman who is being DENIED sex with you is going to want you far more.

should add, I have not had good success meeting people online. Women can be crazy too. Last gal I exchanged numbers with, I got busy and didn't call. I guess she took that the wrong way. She called me 5 times in one day, not counting massive text messages...each call got progressively more and more obscene.

YIKES!

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Liquid,

I wonder about something:

What if, rather than being of the mindset, when will SHE reward YOU with sex, if you took leadership with a lady you've just met and held her at arm's length with a wry smile and said, No, you're going to have to wait.

I can imagine a lot of women getting weak in the knees at such a masterful approach (and it's WHAT she WANTS)

(Something like the movie Love at First Bite where Susan St. James tells George Hamilton, let's have sex. He says, no, I don't have time. She says, just a quickie? He says, For you, no quickies. Only Longies)

Along the mindset that people want what they can't have. A woman who is being DENIED sex with you is going to want you far more.

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In my experience, telling her she has to earn it is also an effective technique.

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In my experience, telling her she has to earn it is also an effective technique.

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My experience has been different.

That's actually what I usually do, and try and take things slow.

However, I'll tell ya, life is not like the movies. Maybe it's just been my experience. I usually try to take things slow, yet a lot women are so programmed that the greatest thing they can offer men is sex...even an flirty let down like that in the movies is not taken very well. They either assume something is wrong with the guy, or their own insecurities show and they think something is wrong with themselves, or they tend to turn their emotions more towards friendship, etc. IE, the "nice guy" syndrome.

It's expected of men to pursue sex as soon as possible these days. If a man doesn't, he must not be interested.

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Originally Posted by shakinginmyshoes

"You are Phoenix's wife, aren't you?"

Heh.

I agree with much of what he says, but no.

My husband doesn't post on the internet too much. He's too busy running his business. *I* have time to post because what I do, I'm self -employed too, with a home business, (lactation consultant) but my work tends to come in spurts. (Pardon the pun. "Spurts." Mother's milk spurts... heh heh..er...ahem. Sorry)

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Haha, I figured you'd say that (about him not being your husband, but that you agree with him).

Anyway, I was just wondering.... (hehe, I like puns too ;) )