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Documentary: The Corporation Nation
Very eye opening and interesting doc on the exposing the true corporate nature of our government and the real assets and revenues that they take in. Exposes the differences between the commonly disclosed budget and the deficit(strictly from tax revenue) and the CAFR(comprehensive annual finance report) which would/should list real revenue of the United States Corporations(185,000 of them)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkfMuvVuETQ
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The Corporation Nation is the United States of America, U.S. Incorporated.
The United States is comprised of over 185,000 incorporated state, county, city, town, municipality, district, councils, school district, pension fund, enterprise operation, lottery, alcohol monopoly, and many other private and for-profit corporations, which have mistakenly been called our “representative government”.
The hidden wealth and investment totals for all of these “collective” 185,000 corporations (governments), when added together, equate to well over 100 trillion dollars, over 26 trillion in just pension fund investment assets.
A trillion dollars is a million million.
With these investments, the government owns controlling ownership interest in all Fortune 500 companies, most major domestic and international companies, and most of everything you see around you. Malls, mini-malls, strip-malls, golf courses, movie theaters, etc…
Federal lands include about 87% of all state land, 97% of Utah land, 95% of Nevada, etc…
This is all easily verifiable by looking at the general accounting system of government, as required by federal law, called the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report, or CAFR.
“The Corporation Nation” documentary proves all of this without a shadow of a doubt.
It is free, it will never be for sale, and needs to be seen by all Americans.
Within this documentary is the governments own admission of corporate governance and fascism. It will not only astound you, but it will also answer just about every question you ever had with regards to the question of why…
…why is every law and every bill passed in the legislature unconstitutional?
…why has the government deregulated all industries and allowed monopolies and corporate tyranny?
…why can banks charge as much interest as they want, despite state laws against usury?
…why was the “Obama-Care” health car bill passed, and who really profits from it?
…why is our infrastructure and land being sold off to private and foreign corporations?
All of these questions will be stunningly clear once you have watched this movie. And with the information you will now possess, you will never again be left to wonder why anything happens in government…
Because you will see first hand that government owns the corporations that it regulates through stock investment.
Government votes for each corporation’s board of directors.
Government votes on whether each company should merge with or acquire other corporations.
Government is the corporations, by controlling stock ownership.
Please watch The Corporation Nation, pass it on, download the film, make copies, and pass them out to everyone you can. For this is the only issue any of us should be focused on…
For this is the root of corporate fascism in America.
-Clint Richardson-
Tuesday, October 26, 2010
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Holy underwear the first 7 minutes is abosolutely explosive
There is David Walker getting skinned alive by the author
The man is litterally tounge tied and when he understands who he is facing ( an informed person) he quickly exits
I knew David Walker was full of shit but this absolutely clinched it for me.
You have nobody is the Halls of Power that represents you and the quicker you realize that the better.
It also Doesnt help that Mr Walker is a CFR member
T
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This is definitely a MUST VIEW video.
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dys
edit to add: for anyone reading this thread for the first time, the video does NOT quote the GAO as a relevant authority. The video actually exposes the GAO.
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I'd like to caution everyone to be especially suspicious of the GAO, they are one of the most corrupt organizations in the federal government (and that is saying a lot). As such, I'm also naturally suspicious of any video that quotes the GAO as a relevant authority on anything. Anyone that quotes the GAO as a reputable source is either ignorant or countintel (probably the latter). I've seen this tactic many times before and it never leads to anything good.
dys
dys, just watch the video before you judge its merit. The length and breadth of its indictment of broad scale corruption is huge and cannot be distilled into a single sentence.
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I'd like to caution everyone to be especially suspicious of the GAO, they are one of the most corrupt organizations in the federal government (and that is saying a lot). As such, I'm also naturally suspicious of any video that quotes the GAO as a relevant authority on anything. Anyone that quotes the GAO as a reputable source is either ignorant or countintel (probably the latter). I've seen this tactic many times before and it never leads to anything good.
dys
dys, just watch the video before you judge its merit. The length and breadth of its indictment of broad scale corruption is huge and cannot be distilled into a single sentence.
Ok, I'll give it a shot when I have the time. I only made it to the GAO quote, to be honest.
dys
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Over 600 mb to download...its big alright
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Fair enough... the video is huge, but it breaks down the system of government/corporation like nothing I've
seen before. In fact, the video indicts the Comptroller General of the GAO as the treasonous scum he is.
There is simply no separation between international/national/state and even local corporate government anymore.
It's all right there in the records and the combined profits and assets of this corporate government web are stupendous.
"Government IS the Corporations and Corporations ARE the government." That's not a left/right wing fantasy. It's the truth of the matter, but
when it's written in such a simplistic manner it sounds like a quaint notion... until you see the numbers.
The numbers are just staggering. Not just the profits being reaped at our( public taxpayers expense), but the shareholdings of the Fortune 500 and way beyond.
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Over 600 mb to download...its big alright
What software or website are you using to download it? I'd like to grab a copy for myself...
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Over 600 mb to download...its big alright
What software or website are you using to download it? I'd like to grab a copy for myself...
add on to firefox...video download helper...scroll down to top downloads.....here
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...ad-management/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...ownloadhelper/
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"There ain't no countries no more."
from the movie They Live
I haven't watched the video, but I have been screaming about the evils of limited liability for a very long time. The process of incorporation lays off accountability; that is why the bad guys get away with such severe and inexcusable exploitation. This is what is known as the 'corporate veil', it allows for the responsible parties to function in their communities without having to answer for their actions. There is no check on immorality, unkindness, and greed.
Management: "We have to do what's best for the company/shareholders, you are all fired and our operations are moving to Bangladesh."
Employees: "Who are the shareholders?
Management: "There are thousands of them."
Ever stop to think how much harder it would be to exploit people if the one responsible for the exploitation could be pinpointed and confronted? That person would have to face his community at work, in church, at the supermarket, at the bank...etc. Limited liability is just a clever scheme to circumvent consequence.
dys
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"There ain't no countries no more."
from the movie They Live
I haven't watched the video, but I have been screaming about the evils of limited liability for a very long time. The process of incorporation lays off accountability; that is why the bad guys get away with such severe and inexcusable exploitation. This is what is known as the 'corporate veil', it allows for the responsible parties to function in their communities without having to answer for their actions. There is no check on immorality, unkindness, and greed.
Management: "We have to do what's best for the company/shareholders, you are all fired and our operations are moving to Bangladesh."
Employees: "Who are the shareholders?
Management: "There are thousands of them."
Ever stop to think how much harder it would be to exploit people if the one responsible for the exploitation could be pinpointed and confronted? That person would have to face his community at work, in church, at the supermarket, at the bank...etc. Limited liability is just a clever scheme to circumvent consequence.
dys
good example of this is here.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWak_bUHDm8
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The process of incorporation lays off accountability; that is why the bad guys get away with such severe and inexcusable exploitation. This is what is known as the 'corporate veil', it allows for the responsible parties to function in their communities without having to answer for their actions.
I hear ya, and agree completely.
Remember Barnacle Bob? He had posted about CAFR and Walter Burien way back. I'd forgotten about it.
That's what the OP video is about.
Here's another shorter video with Burien.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/uy8tnC4xLX8
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I am almost embarrassed that I hadnt come to the obvious conclusion that they must take tax money and invest it...it is like a huge hedge fund that municipal, state and federal corporations dont have to pay investors on! Just take profits and accumulate assets.
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And the truly mind numbing part is every kep player in washinghtin knows this how it works
Knows that money is bursting from the seams
Yet still goes before the people and screams
WE ARE BROKE AND YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP MORE IF YOU WANT A "RECOVERY"
Only a Sociopath can hold two diametrically oppsosed contructs so massive in their head at the same time and sleep well at night in the knowledge of it.
T
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This video is in fact a MUST see. I'm 30 minutes through it...great stuff.
dys
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I neeed to dowload those PDF files on CalSTRS
I want those for future refernce should there ever be a information blackhole one day.
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Originally Posted by Santa
Remember Barnacle Bob? He had posted about CAFR and Walter Burien way back. I'd forgotten about it.
That's what the OP video is about.
Here's another shorter video with Burien.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/uy8tnC4xLX8
Are you talking about the CAFR thread on GIM1? I was just thinking that we need one here, too. I'll start one and people can add any other links they think is relevant.
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I can't overemphasize how important this video is. I think it might be the single most important video I've ever seen, and I'm not even half way through it. This thread needs to be stickied. The video articulates the situation much better than I ever could. I don't even want to undertake that mission except to say that the video discusses the TRUE financial position of various government entities like states, municipalities, counties, etc...they are NOT broke but filthy rich.
I'm emailing Gaillo to try and get this stickied. I am also going to try and verify the veracity of everything on this video (it might take me awhile I will update the thread as I verify).
Everyone on this forum needs to watch this video.
dys
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I've stickied this thread, for now.
-Gaillo
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Remember Barnacle Bob? He had posted about CAFR and Walter Burien way back. I'd forgotten about it.
That's what the OP video is about.
Here's another shorter video with Burien.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/uy8tnC4xLX8
Are you talking about the CAFR thread on GIM1? I was just thinking that we need one here, too. I'll start one and people can add any other links they think is relevant.
That sounds about right Lapis.
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This thread rocks, too (same subject matter).
http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/the-cafr-(comprehensive-annual-financial-report)-thread/
dys
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Originally Posted by dys
I can't overemphasize how important this video is. I think it might be the single most important video I've ever seen, and I'm not even half way through it. This thread needs to be stickied. The video articulates the situation much better than I ever could. I don't even want to undertake that mission except to say that the video discusses the TRUE financial position of various government entities like states, municipalities, counties, etc...they are NOT broke but filthy rich.
dys
I agree with the conclusions in the video, but it gets a bit boring sitting and listening to hi
reading the names and numbers of the stocks owned by Florida and the Californian teachers pension fund. It could have been way shorter and still exposed how much the state really owns. Another thing why does he examine what the Californian pension fund had in 2000. I think today the fund has bigger payouts, less contributions, and less capital...
I do think he makes a good point, but sometimes less is more!
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Originally Posted by dys
I can't overemphasize how important this video is. I think it might be the single most important video I've ever seen, and I'm not even half way through it. This thread needs to be stickied. The video articulates the situation much better than I ever could. I don't even want to undertake that mission except to say that the video discusses the TRUE financial position of various government entities like states, municipalities, counties, etc...they are NOT broke but filthy rich.
dys
I agree with the conclusions in the video, but it gets a bit boring sitting and listening to hi
reading the names and numbers of the stocks owned by Florida and the Californian teachers pension fund. It could have been way shorter and still exposed how much the state really owns. Another thing why does he examine what the Californian pension fund had in 2000. I think today the fund has bigger payouts, less contributions, and less capital...
I do think he makes a good point, but sometimes less is more!
I think the point he was trying to make is that each different investment is an outrage in and of itself. Just because there are hundreds if not thousands of these investments does not in any way dilute the significance of each one. The scope of this criminality is off the charts; possibly even approaching Federal Reserve, Fracitional Banking, and Fiat Currency status. That's how big this thing is.
dys
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Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports are readily available online. I have looked through some of them, this thing is for real.
On another note I had a very disappointing conversation with a friend of mine last night. I had convinced him to watch this video, and he had watched some of it.
Me: "What did you think of that video?"
Him: "I don't believe it."
Me: "Huh? The CAFR are available online, let's look at one of them right now..."
Him: "Politicians want to get reelected. If this was real, they would take the money and give it to people in order to buy votes."
Me: "What makes you think the people in charge would let that happen?"
Him: "There is nothing they could do about it....blah blah blah, politicians want votes."
Round and round we go, where we'll stop, nobody knows.
Bill Cooper used to say that no matter what evidence you stick in front of someone, until they are ready to believe it, they won't. No matter what.
Bill Cooper was right.
dys
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On another note I had a very disappointing conversation with a friend of mine last night. I had convinced him to watch this video, and he had watched some of it.
Me: "What did you think of that video?"
Him: "I don't believe it."
That's exactly what a friend of mine said. I thought she'd be more receptive to this information since she works for government, but no go.
I even showed her the Wikipedia page for CAFR, since it has some good information and most mainstream people take it as gospel. Nope, nada.
However, don't be discouraged; whether people believe it or not initially, the idea is planted. It's better than not having any idea at all.
I think this is one of the reasons that Google is trying to "discourage" websites/blogs that post aggregate content. This is the primary way that alternative news is spread, and some of it definitely leaks out to the MSM.
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b-b-b-but private entities can do anything they want.
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Bump. Why aren't more people discussing this?
dys
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AZ HB2572 Passes in Arizona - CAFR Transparency bill
CAFR1 NATIONAL POST
AZ HB2572 Passes in Arizona and was signed into law by Governor Brewer on April 14th 2011
http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument...Session_ID=102
HB2572 known as the CAFR Transparency bill of which I sent a prior post out on is a step in the right direction but it is deceptive in several areas. I made the suggestions to the sponsor of the bill for modification in text where it would then be truly transparent but my three suggestions were not implemented into the bill.
They were as follows:
1. The biggest deception government has played on the population was never mentioning the investment funds held by that local government. The bill focuses on a showing of expenditures and budgetary income. For transparency the first line focus should be on a clear listing of all investment funds held by that local government in any capacity. There is not one mention of investment funds in the bill as was my first suggestion.
2. I could put a 100 elephants on my property and if no one saw them, no one would know they were there. Or if I put one elephant on a corner in downtown phoenix millions could be talking about it by the end of the day. With that in mind I suggested that the following text be added on every city; county; and state tax bill that went out: "We strongly suggest that our taxpayers carefully review their local government CAFRs" giving the website link that the bill would implement where all local government CAFRs would now be listed on. There was no issue of cost on this suggestion being that the tax bill would be going out anyway and it is just a little extra ink but that would be putting the elephant on the downtown street corner in any light of transparency. My second suggestion was also not implemented into the bill.
3. The bill applied to local City; County; State; School Districts; and Universities. I mentioned that the Enterprise Operations of the same or stand-alone ones where the biggest holding grounds for specialty advance forward liability funds (a tactic used to turn an ongoing profit into a liability designated for future projects or paying for existing or presumed future debt). Some of these advance forward liability investment funds are massive and never being mentioned or discussed with the public hinges on severe fraud on the part of that lack of transparency. I strongly suggested that the enterprise operations be included in the responsible parties targeted in this bill. My third suggestion of including the Enterprise Operations was also not implemented in the text of the bill.
The good thing is that the bill was a step in the right direction. The great thing is all of the other states you now have a precedent to require they do the same "and" include the text as I have outlined above. With that being done you will now have a true CAFR transparency bill in effect for your state. So don't delay, make it happen...
Please share with those that you know.
Sent FYI and truly Yours,
Walter Burien - CAFR1.com
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Silence is deafening around here.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/the-cafr-(comprehensive-annual-financial-report)-thread/
dys
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Silence is deafening around here.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/the-cafr-(comprehensive-annual-financial-report)-thread/
dys
I agree dys... some of the most amazing eye opening useful information around here
and all we get are the birds tweeting.
I've been trying to figure out why. Maybe it's cognitive dissonance in that it threatens our pet delusions. You know. left/right...con/lib...dem/repub...capitalist/commie...all those dialectics...those dualistic diversions. Maybe people don't want to implicate the pension fund they collect a check from? It implicates the actual bureaucratic guts of our collective government.
Maybe it has a similar effect as pointing blame at our Military. Our troops. Our boys. Except of course we've been well trained to react in condemnation and anger at such an accusation. You know, patriotism, the flag and all that.
Maybe it's that we don't know who to raise our fists to? Ha! What fists, I know. Floridated fists maybe? Maybe it's that there are just so many people on the take that it would implicate even those in our own comfort zone?
Maybe it suggests we're not only being taken and hosed by a bunch of fascist pigs, we ARE a bunch of fascist pigs and this just brings it all home to roost, so to speak.
Ever hear the expression, "I won't hear another word of it?"
Maybe we just don't know what to think, God help us...
You're an expressive and passionate writer, what do you think?
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I'll go over there and post some stuff.
I haven't very much lately. I used to think this CAFR information was IT, but now I realize it's just another PTB technique as they hone the evil art of Enterprise Corruption, like they have for millennia.
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I'll go over there and post some stuff.
I haven't very much lately. I used to think this CAFR information was IT, but now I realize it's just another PTB technique as they hone the evil art of Enterprise Corruption, like they have for millennia.
You've been terrific, Lapis. A true searcher. Among the very top posters on this forum.
I've learned a ton form what you've put up. Thanks so much.
It's true that the PTB spend their clock time contriving methods to get the population to
do their bidding and grovel at their feet. This particular scam that the CAFR uncovers is a doozy though,
even if it isn't the only scam.
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I agree dys... some of the most amazing eye opening useful information around here
and all we get are the birds tweeting.
I've been trying to figure out why...
You're an expressive and passionate writer, what do you think?
From another post of mine...
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And then there are the things you can't say and the hints you can't drop and the stories you can't tell.
dys
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhkWu...C9369A235E0D00
Part 2 of this series, on pension funds.
'Corporate Governance' is a term this guy uses to describe the phenomenon of government corporations collectively owning so much stock that they actually have controlling interest in every major corporation in the US (and a lot of the minor ones for that matter). They control what these corporations do through what is called proxy voting. This particular eposide details CAFRs of pension funds, which are themselves their own corporations along with municipalies, cities, towns, townships, districts of all types, states, countries, courts, etc. Of course they are NOT underfunded but filthy rich, and on top of that they are mostly funded by the taxpayers and not the people that work for the corporations that have pension funds (example- teachers/CALPERS).
I've had some conversations with certain people that I respect regarding this conspiracy. The objection I usually hear is: "I don't see how we could pay off the national debt with these assets, there is no buyer." Fair enough, or more aptly from where I sit- MAYBE.
However, that is but one issue related to this conspiracy. Questions without answers:
1. If we the people own these assets, how come we don't have access to these assets? For example, why isn't every person given their own piece of property? These corporations have plenty of real estate holdings free and clear...assets paid for by the taxpayers.
2. If we the people own these companies, why are we allowing these countries to outsource? Furthermore, why aren't we given access to the products of these companies? For example, the US government is the largest holder of computer makers Apple and Microsoft. Why aren't we given computers?
3. Why aren't we given input into issues such as risk of investments, proxy voting powers and decisions, oversees investments, et al?
4. If we can't access these investments, why can't we opt out?
5. What about the obvious conflict of interest that arises when government that owns a corporation is charged with enacting legislation related to the same corporation that they own?
And there are a million more related questions as well.
dys