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    Re: Anna: Lawful Persons differ from Legal Persons.

    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    https://www.etymonline.com/word/person

    "Legal use" = anytime a term is used in 'a court of law' (i.e. the state church/belief system)
    This is from the Oxford dictionary of Law on my NAS.

    juristic person (artificial person) An entity, such as a *corporation, that is
    recognized as having legal personality, i.e. it is capable of enjoying and being subject
    to legal rights and duties. It is contrasted with a human being, who is referred to as
    a natural person.

    legal person A natural person (i.e. a human being) or a *juristic person.

    Seems they disagree with your statement.

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    Re: Anna: Lawful Persons differ from Legal Persons.

    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    You're so enamored with Anna you're unable to think objectively. lol
    Well it seems the shoe fits the other way around. You so hate Anna, you're unable to think objectively. LOL.

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    Re: Anna: Lawful Persons differ from Legal Persons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigjon View Post
    Well, is she lying?

    Seems she is telling the story like it is supposed to be.

    And she has been making it clear about all the legal pitfalls that so many in the patriot community have stepped in.
    That list is very long with a whole bunch of them still in jail.

    You talk smart, but you keep it pretty close to your vest. That's ok. It is your business.
    But the smart talk makes you an xxx. You fill in the blanks.
    Honestly it doesn't matter. The issue with both, is that they require a government who understands and differentiates the two. This government does not. Under this government you are assumed property, no matter if you're a legal or lawful person. Good luck trying to convince them of your status.
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    Re: Anna: Lawful Persons differ from Legal Persons.

    The key to comprehension is that a person* is a creation of the state.

    *for the flesh and blood living soul this is done via the BIRTH CERTIFICATE
    "A man is to be held accountable for the thoughts he chooses to entertain." --Richard Alan Miller

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    Re: Anna: Lawful Persons differ from Legal Persons.

    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    The key to comprehension is that a person* is a creation of the state.

    *for the flesh and blood living soul this is done via the BIRTH CERTIFICATE
    Doesn't matter, you're an "assumed" person to this government and convincing them of anything otherwise is likely going to end up with you in prison or dead.

    The courts will do everything in their power to drop whatever case you come up with due to "lack of standing".

    The only way to beat them is to not even bother playing their game. It's rigged against you 10 different ways from Sunday.
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    Re: Anna: Lawful Persons differ from Legal Persons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ares View Post

    Honestly it doesn't matter. The issue with both, is that they require a government who understands and differentiates the two. This government does not. Under this government you are assumed property, no matter if you're a legal or lawful person. Good luck trying to convince them of your status.

    Dumb Goyim allow jews to define who and what they are.

    I'm the infamous Fred of GIM - Jewboo kindly turned over his account to me.

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    Re: Anna: Lawful Persons differ from Legal Persons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ares View Post
    Honestly it doesn't matter. The issue with both, is that they require a government who understands and differentiates the two. This government does not. Under this government you are assumed property, no matter if you're a legal or lawful person. Good luck trying to convince them of your status.
    Our interface with the govt is through their contract courts. If you have no contract, they have no case.

    Basically those govt courts are not our courts. IF you have established yourself as a state national and shed all the USA INC contracts they leave you alone.

    But most have not done that and then complain when they are hauled into court because they do have a Drivers License.

    Richard McDonald says they obey their law.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvzWF8f-R9U


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    Re: Anna: Lawful Persons differ from Legal Persons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ares View Post
    Doesn't matter, you're an "assumed" person to this government and convincing them of anything otherwise is likely going to end up with you in prison or dead.

    The courts will do everything in their power to drop whatever case you come up with due to "lack of standing".

    The only way to beat them is to not even bother playing their game. It's rigged against you 10 different ways from Sunday.
    McDonald says you have to figure out which of the courts in your state are common law courts. Most of the courts are for fictions and they can't "see" you.

    He says he had a subscription to West Law and pulled down all the cases involving common law and that told him which courts addressed men instead of legal person's.

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    Re: Anna: Lawful Persons differ from Legal Persons.

    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    The key to comprehension is that a person* is a creation of the state.

    *for the flesh and blood living soul this is done via the BIRTH CERTIFICATE
    Anna's advice is to take control of your trade names and surrender the Birth Certificate by making the secretary of Treasury the fiduciary of the NAME.

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    Re: Anna: Lawful Persons differ from Legal Persons.

    I think Anna is full of shit since anyone who works the commerce side is full of shit.
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