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    Ukraine info

    Thought Jim Stone's take on this was interesting:

    Here is a very short summary of why impeachment is being pushed against Trump:

    It is because a new government was put in place in Ukraine that intends to drain the Ukraine swamp the way Trump wanted to drain America's swamp, and if Trump is not ousted NOW, powerful people in the United States will go to jail for what Ukraine is going to reveal. In short: The Dems are throwing a hail mary in hopes of saving themselves from jail time. If they can get rid of Trump before all the investigations in Ukraine are finalized, they can take refuge behind whatever crony they manage to replace Trump with and then tell Ukraine to "go to hell". If they fail, Trump won't have to prosecute anything, significant enough investigation and prosecution will happen in Ukraine to majorly toast some very powerful Democrats. In short, corrupted people short circuited the American judicial process, but they can't short circuit that process in Ukraine and they are scared sh*tless because Ukraine is going to nail them. They therefore need protection here, like crooks that run off to Israel get from Israel and they can't get that protection with Trump as president.
    The Dems fired an impeachment scud, and Giuliani responded with a nuke on This Fox and Friends interview 22 minutes.

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    And Sundance over at conservativetreehouse, thinks it's all about going after crowdstrike:

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...d-crowdstrike/

    The completely over-the-top response by a Deep State embed whistleblower and his/her political allies withing the administrative state now makes sense; it had nothing to do with Joe Biden. President Trump asked President Zelenskyy about “Crowdstrike.”

    To understand how important this is, we must remember the foundation for the entire Russian election interference narrative, ‘Muh Russia – writ large, is built on the claim Russians hacked the servers of the Democrat National Committee (DNC), and subsequently released damaging emails that showed the DNC worked to help Hillary Clinton and eliminate Bernie Sanders.
    Despite the Russian ‘hacking’ claim the DOJ and FBI previously admitted the DNC would not let FBI investigators review the DNC server or cloud-based network. Instead the original claim was that the DNC provided the FBI with analysis of a technical review done through a cyber-security contract with Crowdstrike.
    According to the original FBI statements made by James Comey: Crowdstrike did the captured imaging of the DNC network (servers/cloud), then conducted analysis, then provided a report to the DNC with their findings; and that report was given to the FBI. At least that was the original 2017 claim. However, during court filings in the case against Roger Stone, the DOJ/FBI later admitted they never even saw the Crowstrike final report.
    Lawyers representing Roger Stone requested the full Crowdstrike report on the DNC hack. When the DOJ responded to the Stone motion they made a rather significant admission. Not only did the FBI not review the DNC server or cloud data, the FBI/DOJ never even saw the final Crowdstrike report

    Jim Stone linked to this as being very important:
    Democrats Wrote to Ukraine in May 2018, Demanding It Investigate Trump

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...stigate-trump/


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    Also, from reading the transcript, I saw that Trump said something about Zelinsky should contact the AG (so I guess Trump is still under the impression that Barr is actually looking into things)

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    Re: Ukraine info

    It is because a new government was put in place in Ukraine that intends to drain the Ukraine swamp the way Trump wanted to drain America's swamp

    Who believes this? lol

    This is meet new boss, same as old boss.

    So the statement is not far off. Both are zionist puppets or puppeteers as in Ukraine's case. And the new swamp will be worse than the old swamp.

    trump has the same zionist masters. And Ukraine is led by a jew. A saviour jew who will drain the swamp.

    This is comedy here. But go along and support your zionist flavor of the month.
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    Re: Ukraine info

    Quote Originally Posted by C.Martel View Post
    It is because a new government was put in place in Ukraine that intends to drain the Ukraine swamp the way Trump wanted to drain America's swamp

    Who believes this? lol

    This is meet new boss, same as old boss.

    So the statement is not far off. Both are zionist puppets or puppeteers as in Ukraine's case. And the new swamp will be worse than the old swamp.

    trump has the same zionist masters. And Ukraine is led by a jew. A saviour jew who will drain the swamp.

    This is comedy here. But go along and support your zionist flavor of the month.
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    Geo Carlin: It's a club and you aint in it.
    Well over 90 percent of the people Hitler locked up were Germans. Only 2 to 3 percent were Jews and most of those Jews were elevated to concentration camp kapos.

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    Re: Ukraine info

    I think he's right about Crowdstrike. The talking heads are avoiding talking about it to the best of their ability.

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    Re: Ukraine info

    THE TIDE TURNS: Democrats FREAK OUT After Transcript Reveals POTUS Trump Is on Crowdstrike Trail — He’s Going After Origins of Russia Hoax!
    Jim Hoft by Jim Hoft September 26, 2019 228 Comments

    On Wednesday the Trump Administration released the White House transcript of President Trump’s call with President Zelensky of Ukraine.

    In the transcript released today President Zelensky brought up Rudy Giuliani and his investigations with President Trump.

    It was Zelensky who brought up the Biden investigation and NOT PRESIDENT TRUMP!

    President Trump then asked Zelensky to look into the 2016 election including information on Crowdstrike.

    The President did not ask President Zelensky to investigate Joe Biden as was widely reported by the lying mainstream media.
    The transcript sent shock waves through the Democrat Deep State.

    The transcript revealed President Trump is going after the origins of the Trump-Russia witch hunt.

    Trump is going after the Deep State — Trump said he was going to clean the swamp and he meant it.
    Foreign Policy expert Tony Shaffer says this is what the left is most worried about.

    Rush Limbaugh focused on this bombshell from the transcript on his Wednesday show.

    Now, just a little bit more about CrowdStrike ’cause I have paid attention, there’s not a single — I haven’t seen a single report focus on CrowdStrike in this transcript. Now, I know why the Democrats are ignoring it. The Democrats are bent out of shape that Trump even knows about CrowdStrike. They think Trump’s an idiot. With Trump specifically zeroing in on CrowdStrike the Democrats have learned today, after reading that transcript, what Trump is really doing here.

    Trump is soliciting assistance from allies all over the world to help Barr prove the scam run against him. That’s what’s going on. That’s what the Democrats have learned today with that word “CrowdStrike” being in the transcript. CrowdStrike, the founder of CrowdStrike is a Russian emigre who hates Putin with a purple passion. It seems to color CrowdStrike’s security work.

    Prime example being when CrowdStrike claimed that the Russians had hacked the Ukraine artillery software during the time Russia was invading Ukraine. CrowdStrike claimed the Russian hack caused the Ukrainians to fire on their own troops, killing thousands of them. They were dead wrong about it! And that’s a massive thing to be wrong about. Because the only problem was Ukraine said there was no such hack and no such battle and there were no such casualties.

    They said that CrowdStrike had made all of it up. And guess what? CrowdStrike withdrew its report and admitted that it was wrong. Now, this, whether it sounds like it or not, don’t doubt me, this is highly relevant to this entire Russian collusion story, which is why Trump was asking about it and why the Democrats don’t want the Ukrainians to reinvestigate it.

    The reference to CrowdStrike, mark my words, is momentous in this transcript today. I know damn well the whistleblower didn’t tell the Democrats about that or they would have a different strategy laid out for this. Because another thing — don’t doubt me on this — what this really means, folks, is that Trump — he was asking for assistance on Biden, but it’s all related. What Trump actually was asking the president of Ukraine to do was to help the attorney general.

    President Trump is going after the criminal deep state.
    He’s going after the criminals who lied and put America through the Trump-Russia witch hunt.
    President Trump is going to clean the swamp.

    This has Democrats scared to death.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...f-russia-hoax/
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    Re: Ukraine info

    fwiw, people are saying the "whistleblower" (Not!!) is Susan Gordon, who was supposedly passed over for the DNI position (she was in the deputy position when Coats was director). Also heard she's another Israel firster jew.

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    Re: Ukraine info

    'He Had Help': Former CIA, NSC Official Questions 'Too Convenient' And 'Too Perfect' Whistleblower Report
    by Tyler Durden
    Thu, 09/26/2019 - 11:56

    In light of Thursday's public release of a 'whistleblower' complaint, who was "not a witness to most of hte events described" in their allegation that President Trump abused his office to request that Ukraine investigate former Vice President Joe Biden's dealings in the country, former CIA analyst and National Security Council (NSC) official Fred Fleitz has provided his take on the whole thing via Twitter.

    Notably, Fleitz - CEO of the Center for Security Policy - points out that "The way this complaint was written suggested the author had a lot of help," adding "I know from my work on the House Intel Commitee staff that many whistleblowers go directly to the intel oversight committees. Did this whistleblower first meet with House Intel committee members?"

    Fleitz then writes that "that this whistleblower complaint is too convenient and too perfect to come from a typical whistleblower," adding "Were other IC officers involved? Where outside groups opposed to the president involved?"

    Read the thread below (emphasis ours):

    1/ As a former CIA analyst and former NSC official who edited transcripts of POTUS phone calls with foreign leaders, here are my thoughts on the whistleblower complaint which was just released. . . intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/…

    2/ This is not an intelligence matter. It is a policy matter and a complaint about differences over policy. Presidential phone calls are not an intelligence concern. The fact that IC officers transcribe these calls does not give the IC IG jusrisdiction over these calls.

    3/ It appears that rules restricting access and knowledge of these sensitive calls was breached. This official was not on this call, not on the approved dissem list and should not have been briefed on the call.


    .3/ The way this complaint was written suggested the author had a lot of help. I know from my work on the House Intel Commitee staff that many whistleblowers go directly to the intel oversight committees. Did this whistleblower first meet with House Intel committee members?

    .4/ It is therefore important that Congress find out where this complaint came from. What did House and Senate intel committee dem members and staff know about it and when? Did they help orchestrate this complaint?

    5/ My view is that this whistleblower complaint is too convenient and too perfect to come from a typical whistleblower. Were other IC officers involved? Where outside groups opposed to the president involved?

    6/ This complaint will further damage IC relations with the White House for many years to come because IC officers appear to be politicizing presidential phone calls with foreign officials and their access to the president and his activities in the White House.

    7/ Worst of all, this IC officer -- and probably others -- have blatantly crossed the line into policy. This violates a core responsibility of IC officers is to inform, but not make policy.

    8/ This is such a grevious violation of trust between the IC and the White House that it would not surprise me if IC officers are barred from all access to POTUS phone calls with foreign officials.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...nd-too-perfect
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    Re: Ukraine info

    Based appearance by Rudy Giuliani here, it really exposes the globalist corporate shill Fredo.

    CNN Chris Cuomo 9/19/2019: Chris Cuomo 0ne-on-One with Rudy Giuliani - Chris Cuomo CNN
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    Re: Ukraine info

    You take on the intelligence community? They have six ways from Sunday of getting back at you" - Chuck Schumer.

    NYTimes 'Outs' Ukraine-Call "Whistleblower" As CIA Officer


    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...er-cia-officer

    Soon after the Ukraine-gate "whistleblower" complaint was made public, questions about the source's knowledge and background began to rise, as one former CIA officer noted very specifically:
    The way this complaint was written suggested the author had a lot of help. I know from my work on the House Intel Commitee staff that many whistleblowers go directly to the intel oversight committees. Did this whistleblower first meet with House Intel committee members?

    My view is that this whistleblower complaint is too convenient and too perfect to come from a typical whistleblower. Were other IC officers involved? Where outside groups opposed to the president involved?
    This complaint will further damage IC relations with the White House for many years to come because IC officers appear to be politicizing presidential phone calls with foreign officials and their access to the president and his activities in the White House.

    Worst of all, this IC officer -- and probably others -- have blatantly crossed the line into policy.
    And sure enough, if The New York Times is to be believed, the complainant is a C.I.A. officer who was detailed to work at the White House at one point, according to three people familiar with his identity.
    The man has since returned to the C.I.A., the people said.

    We wonder how many more ways they have left. The NYTimes, of course, puts its spin on the news, claiming that the whistle-blower's expertise will likely add to lawmakers' confidence about the merits of his complaint.

    However, given the current state of affairs, we suspect it will simply remind a deeply divided nation of the bias and prejudice that exists behind the President's back.
    https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b..._trump11_0.jpg

    As Chuck Schumer once warned Trump:

    "Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community - they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you... So, even for a practical supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this."


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