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    Re: Ukraine info

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    Crowdsource the Truth with investigative reporter Lee Stranahan and former CIA whistleblower Kevin Shipp



    https://youtu.be/AM-T4GKeQf4
    Still making my way through this...

    Stranahan seems to think this whole this is coming from the CIA, first with that weird (fake) story, about Oleg Smolenkov (https://www.sott.net/article/420269-...sian-informant) where they tried to blame Trump for something connected to this guy, and now this new "whistleblower"/gossip blower also coming from CIA. Then Shipp suggests it's connected to bloody Gina Haspel--he adds that she's not giving Barr documents. Pretty sure the Larouchies thought that bloody Gina was in on the original coup (the Russia Hoax) since she was over there in London and close to nutjob Brennan.

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    Could you imagine a CIA whisteblower in the Clinton era? The body would hit the morgue before the best selling book I WAS A CIA WHISTLEBLOWER hit the market.

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    Re: Ukraine info

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    Still making my way through this...

    Stranahan seems to think this whole this is coming from the CIA, first with that weird (fake) story, about Oleg Smolenkov (https://www.sott.net/article/420269-...sian-informant) where they tried to blame Trump for something connected to this guy, and now this new "whistleblower"/gossip blower also coming from CIA. Then Shipp suggests it's connected to bloody Gina Haspel--he adds that she's not giving Barr documents. Pretty sure the Larouchies thought that bloody Gina was in on the original coup (the Russia Hoax) since she was over there in London and close to nutjob Brennan.
    if you subscribe to patreon.com/kevinshipp the entire episode is about an hour long.
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    Re: Ukraine info

    What Do the Jews Want In Ukraine? From RussiaGate to UkraineGate – The Raw Power of Ukraine’s Jewish Oligarchs

    https://www.abeldanger.org/what-do-the-jews-want-in-ukraine-from-russiagate-to-ukrainegate-the-raw-power-of-ukraines-jewish-oligarchs/

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    We’ve gone through a lot of news sources to see if we couldn’t figure out what is going on in Ukraine as to why the Democrats, led by Jewish congressional representatives Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) who leads the impeachment committee, Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) who is on the Judiciary Committee, Rep. Elissa Slotkin (D-Mich.), Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D-Fla.), Eliot Engel (D-New York) along with 21 other Jewish Democratic congressional representatives all calling for the impeachment of President Trump because of his phone call with President Zelensky of Ukraine.


    It should be apparent that these Jewish “US congressional members” prefer the ascendancy of Israel over America many being paid off by Jewish-American oligarchs. Ukraine’s ex-President Petro Poroshenko (there are claims Poroshenko is Jewish) essentially acted as a Jewish proxy for oligarchic Jewish interests in Ukraine pressured by western political interests over Ukraine. Now the Jewish oligarch Victor Pinchuk, who it is alleged along with ex-President Petro Poroshenko, are accused of diverting IMF funds to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. Fake news? Hard to say…

    (more interesting info at the link)

    includes this story https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...len-imf-money/

    also includes info from Wayne Madsen saying jews have a secret plan for a second "Israel"/homeland in Ukraine (probably actually makes sense since this is closer to where those khazars came from).

    How many homelands do they need?? Pretty sure I heard years ago about them in Patagonia (probably scoping that out in case they nuke the northern hemisphere) and they have that place in Russia somewhere that I think Stalin set up (that Lady Michelle Rounuf- sp? has talked about)

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    Re: Ukraine info

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    ... It seems like the jews have the whole system rigged and all the key positions are under control...

    So, what server is he talking about The DNC server?? So he's saying crowdstrike in Ukraine has it?? I saw someone over at the treehouse in the comment saying something like crowdstrike has a digital copy of it?? Anyone know the truth on this?


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    Re: Ukraine info

    Yes, all key positions under (((control)))

    latest from Trump: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...477118976?s=09

    Maybe all he can do is call attention to the criminality on twitter. DOJ is under swamp control, so nothing seems to be coming from Barr.

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    Re: Ukraine info

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...d-from-others/
    Breaking – ICIG Whistleblower Form Recently Modified to Permit Complaint “Heard From Others”…

    Posted on September 27, 2019 by sundance
    Folks, this “Ukraine Whistleblower” event was a pre-planned event. As we begin to understand the general outline of how the Schiff Dossier was assembled, we are now starting to get into the specifics. First discovered by researcher Stephen McIntyre, there is now evidence surfacing showing the ICIG recently created an entirely new ‘whistleblower complaint form’ that specifically allowed for the filing of complaints “heard from others“.
    https://theconservativetreehouse.fil...pg?w=640&h=543
    Prior to the current “whistleblower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 allowing for the EXACT type of complaint now registered from the CIA whistleblower.
    The IGIC revision was made at the same time HPSCI Chairman Adam Schiff was tweeting in August about President Trump, Rudy Giuliani and holding back funding pending assistance with political opponents. Note the Date: (link)
    https://theconservativetreehouse.fil...aine.jpg?w=640
    The timing here is far too coincidental. This was a set-up.
    Sean Davis from the Federalist is also hot on the trail.
    Sean Davis – Between May 2018 and August 2019, the intelligence community secretly eliminated a requirement that whistleblowers provide direct, first-hand knowledge of alleged wrongdoings. This raises questions about the intelligence community’s behavior regarding the August submission of a whistleblower complaint against President Donald Trump. The new complaint document no longer requires potential whistleblowers who wish to have their concerns expedited to Congress to have direct, first-hand knowledge of the alleged wrongdoing that they are reporting.
    The brand new version of the whistleblower complaint form, which was not made public until after the transcript of Trump’s July 25 phone call with the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky and the complaint addressed to Congress were made public, eliminates the first-hand knowledge requirement and allows employees to file whistleblower complaints even if they have zero direct knowledge of underlying evidence and only “heard about [wrongdoing] from others.”
    The internal properties of the newly revised “Disclosure of Urgent Concern” form, which the intelligence community inspector general (ICIG) requires to be submitted under the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA), show that the document was uploaded on September 24, 2019, at 4:25 p.m., just days before the anti-Trump complaint was declassified and released to the public. The markings on the document state that it was revised in August 2019, but no specific date of revision is disclosed. (read more)
    President Trump announced Joseph Macguire as the Acting ODNI on August 8th, 2019. (link) The CIA operative “whistle-blower” letter to Adam Schiff and Richard Burr was on August 12th (link). Immediately following this letter, the ICIG rules and requirements for “whistle-blowers” was modified, allowing hearsay complaints. On August 28th Adam Schiff begins tweeting about the construct of the complaint.

    As Stephen McIntyre notes: “it appears almost certain that, subsequent to the CIA operative “WB” complaint, the DNI introduced a brand new Urgent Disclosure Form which offered a previously unavailable alternative to report allegations with no personal knowledge.”
    The prior IGIC complaint form can be viewed via the Wayback Machine – SEE HERE and the new IGIC complaint form that allows hearsay can be compared HERE.
    The CIA whistleblower complaint is likely the VERY FIRST complaint allowed using the new IGIC protocol and standard. Taken in combination with the timeline of the August 12th notification letter to Schiff and Burr and the Schiff tweet of August 28th, there’s little room for doubt this Ukraine whistleblower impeachment effort was pre-planned.
    Additionally, this coordinated effort ties back-in Intelligence Community Inspector General, Michael K Atkinson.
    The center of the Lawfare Alliance influence was/is the Department of Justice National Security Division, DOJ-NSD. It was the DOJ-NSD running the Main Justice side of the 2016 operations to support Operation Crossfire Hurricane and FBI agent Peter Strzok. It was also the DOJ-NSD where the sketchy legal theories around FARA violations (Sec. 901) originated.
    The Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) is Michael K Atkinson. ICIG Atkinson is the official who accepted the ridiculous premise of a hearsay ‘whistle-blower‘ complaint; an intelligence whistleblower who was “blowing-the-whistle” based on second hand information of a phone call without any direct personal knowledge, ie ‘hearsay‘.
    Michael K Atkinson was previously the Senior Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General of the National Security Division of the Department of Justice (DOJ-NSD) in 2016. That makes Atkinson senior legal counsel to John Carlin and Mary McCord who were the former heads of the DOJ-NSD in 2016 when the stop Trump operation was underway.
    .
    https://theconservativetreehouse.fil...pg?w=565&h=363
    [Irony Reminder: The DOJ-NSD was purposefully under no IG oversight. In 2015 the OIG requested oversight and it was Sally Yates who responded with a lengthy 58 page legal explanation saying, essentially, ‘nope – not allowed.’ (PDF HERE) All of the DOJ is subject to oversight, except the NSD.]
    Put another way, Michael Atkinson was the lawyer for the same DOJ-NSD players who: (1) lied to the FISA court (Judge Rosemary Collyer) about the 80% non compliant NSA database abuse using FBI contractors; (2) filed the FISA application against Carter Page; and (3) used FARA violations as tools for political surveillance and political targeting.
    Yes, that means Michael Atkinson was Senior Counsel for the DOJ-NSD, at the very epicenter of the political weaponization and FISA abuse.
    Immediately after the Carter Page FISA warrant is approved, in the period where DOJ-NSD head John Carlin has given his notice of intent to leave but not yet left, inside those specific two weeks, the National Security Division of the DOJ tells the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) they have been breaking the law. The NSD specifically inform the court they are aware of contractors who have been using FISA 702(16)(17) database search queries to extract information on political candidates.
    DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz has looked into the FISA application used against U.S. Person Carter Page. Additionally, U.S. Attorney John Durham is said to be looking at the intelligence communities’ use of systems for spying and surveillance.
    If the DOJ-NSD exploitation of the NSA database, and/or DOJ-NSD FISA abuse, and/or DOJ-NSD FARA corruption were ever to reach sunlight, current ICIG Atkinson -as the lawyer for the process- would be under a lot of scrutiny for his involvement.
    Yes, that gives current ICIG Michael Atkinson a strong and corrupt motive to participate with the Schiff/Lawfare impeachment objective.
    Atkinson’s conflict-of-self-interest, and/or possible blackmail upon him by deep state actors who most certainly know his compromise, likely influenced his approach to this whistleblower complaint. That would explain why the Dept. of Justice Office of Legal Counsel so strongly rebuked Atkinson’s interpretation of his responsibility with the complaint.
    In the Justice Department’s OLC opinion, they point out that Atkinson’s internal justification for accepting the whistleblower complaint was poor legal judgement. [See Here] I would say Atkinson’s decision is directly related to his own risk exposure:
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    Within a heavy propaganda report from the New York Times there are also details about the Intelligence Community Inspector General that show the tell-tale fingerprints of the ICIG supportive intent (emphasis mine):
    […] Mr. Atkinson, a Trump appointee, nevertheless concluded that the allegations appeared to be credible and identified two layers of concern.
    The first involved a possible violation of criminal law. Mr. Trump’s comments to Mr. Zelensky “could be viewed as soliciting a foreign campaign contribution in violation of the campaign-finance laws,Mr. Atkinson wrote, according to the Justice Department memo. (read more)
    Does the “foreign campaign contribution” angle sound familiar? It should, because that argument was used in the narrative around the Trump Tower meeting with the Russian Lobbyist Natalia Veselnitskaya. More specifically, just like FARA violations the overused “campaign contribution” narrative belongs to a specific network of characters, Lawfare.
    The “Schiff Dossier”, aka “whistle-blower” complaint was a constructed effort of allied members within congress and the intelligence apparatus to renew the impeachment effort. The intelligence team, including the ICIG, changed the whistleblower form to allow the CIA to insert the Schiff Dossier, written by Lawfare.
    The Soft-Coup effort continues…

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    Re: Ukraine info

    thought this was interesting...

    Pelosi's Impeachment bluff hides real Ukraine story; CrowdStrike, Soros & Hillary servers in Kiev



    The Duran Quick Take: Episode 315. The Duran’s Alex Christoforou and Editor-in-Chief Alexander Mercouris discuss the release of a transcript between U.S. President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, which was the basis of a Democrat push for an impeachment inquiry and which does not reveal any type of 'quid pro quo' or other attempt to pressure Ukraine into investigating former Obama VP Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden.
    They still seem to have faith in Barr and Durham looking into origins of the Russia Hoax, which lead to Ukraine (I have serious doubts--I think they are slow-walking and dragging their feet in the hope that the coup works and they can get him out of there, and then all the evidence of Coup Plot #1 will be disappeared for ever)

    They also note how Laura Ingraham tried to cut off Guiliani when he talked about the money trail with Biden and all the evidence he has. Also noted that the corporate whore media is making sure to NOT mention the Neocon coup in Ukraine with Nuland, Biden and Obama

    They also say that Russia has bugs/spies all over Ukraine and they probably know everything that Ukraine knows about colluding with the Dems/Clinton, crowdstrike and the server

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    Re: Ukraine info

    I thought this video from Kevin Shipp on who he thinks the “whistleblower” is was pretty good.

    Mike ‘@Thomas1774Paine’ Moore, investigative reporter and editor of True Pundit https://truepundit.com/ is of the opinion “John Bolton’s fingerprints are all over the ‘whistleblower’ report”.

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    Re: Ukraine info

    Quote Originally Posted by monty View Post
    Mike ‘@Thomas1774Paine’ Moore, investigative reporter and editor of True Pundit https://truepundit.com/ is of the opinion “John Bolton’s fingerprints are all over the ‘whistleblower’ report”.
    Yes, I've seen others suggest the same about Bolton.

    I also wonder if this has to do with Trump NOT attacking Iran. It's obvious that is what the (((deep state))) wants--they kept having all of these staged events, saying "look Iran did it," and expecting Trump to take the bait and attack (I think one was the unmanned drone shot down by Iran, then another with those mines in the gulf, and then the latest Saudi oil attacks) . Can't help but wonder if this would be going on if Trump had in fact took the bait and attacked Iran.

    Also, does anyone here know if Q was the one telling people that Trump has the DNC server (or Hillary's server)?? I know I've heard that Dave @x22 report telling his followers that Trump and "we the patriots" have the servers (still can't believe what happened to Dave--he used to offer a good analysis of events until he got hooked on that Q crap--he's still telling his followers that "the patriots are in control"--well it sure as hell doesn't look like that to me). The reason I bring up the server is b/c Trump mentioned it in the phone call (so clearly he and the patriots DON'T have it)
    I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike… I guess you have one of your wealthy people… The server, they say Ukraine has it.
    Also, this guy is suggesting that some of those WHORES in congress helped the gossipblower write up the complaint:

    Skulduggery? Former NSA staff chief suggests 'whistleblower' may have had Congress members' help drafting complaint

    https://www.sott.net/article/421164-Skulduggery-Former-NSA-staff-chief-suggests-whistleblower-may-have-had-Congress-members-help-drafting-complaint


    Also, good summary of the whole Crowdstrike connection to this whole mess:
    Cyber Expert Explains the Theory of Crowdstrike's Connection to Ukraine, DNC Hacking Controversy

    https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201909271076898843-cyber-expert-explains-the-theory-of-crowdstrikes-connection-to-ukraine-dnc-hacking-controversy/

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