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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...port-says.html

    Spreading anti-vaxx conspiracy theories should be a CRIME, top scientists say amid fears bogus claims will damage uptake of coronavirus jab

    Report from the Royal Society and British Academy called for regulation
    Groups spreading misinformation are 'skilled' and 'feed on fear', expert warned
    Concerns about vaccine safety should be addressed not amplified, they said
    Results yesterday claimed Covid-19 jab made by Pfizer is 90% effective

    By Sam Blanchard Senior Health Reporter For Mailonline

    Published: 10:51 EST, 10 November 2020 | Updated: 13:11 EST, 10 November 2020

    Spreading anti-vaccine conspiracy theories online should be a crime, according to some of Britain's top scientists.

    The Royal Society and British Academy institutions have together called for laws to be drawn up about spreading bogus claims about vaccination on the internet.

    A huge leap forward in the fight against coronavirus was announced yesterday when it emerged that a Covid-19 jab being developed by Pfizer and BioNTech appears to be 90 per cent effective and could be given to members of the public next month.

    But experts fear lies about the vaccine spreading online will put people off getting the jab, and surveys have found that more than a third of Brits already say they are unlikely to have it.

    A vaccine is seen as the only way to end the Covid-19 pandemic, but high uptake - ideally 80 per cent of the population or more - is needed for it to work.

    Wild and untrue claims made about vaccines online include that they have been created by Microsoft founder Bill Gates to inject microchips into people, and that the coronavirus isn't even real but has been made up as part of a 'plot to enforce vaccination'.

    GCHQ in the UK has already started a campaign to tackle theories being spread on social media by Russian meddlers, and the Royal Society and British Academy said most people who are drawn in by anti-vaxx theories don't realise they're spreading lies..

    The report by Professor Mills and colleagues said a vaccine won't immediately bring the pandemic to an end and scientists and officials must be honest about how long it will take to roll one out and get life back to normal.

    Eight out of 10 people may need to have the jab before it becomes effective and getting this done will be a massive task for medical workers.

    The report has called for realistic timescales to be laid out for the public about how long it might actually take to vaccinate enough people to thwart the spread of Covid-19.

    And even if take-up is good, lockdowns and social distancing will still have to continue to keep the virus under control while medics scramble to get the vaccine to millions of people.

    There is also the chance that that the jab won't work perfectly - experts have warned that the first vaccines may not be totally effective, meaning other measures might still be needed.

    Professor Mills said: 'There needs to be a frank conversation with the public about just how long it will take and that things will not immediately go back to normal when vaccines arrive.

    'We need to move away from the one-way provision of information and generate an open dialogue that addresses misinformation and does not dismiss people's real vaccine concerns and hesitancy.

    'And, critically, when the time comes, we need to make vaccination itself convenient.'

    Professor Mills aired her concerns about plans to vaccinate everyone against Covid-19 in a report published by the British Academy scientific institution.

    She said that two of the main problems that a vaccination programme will face are difficulties reaching everyone and doing the jabs, and persuading people to actually get the vaccine.

    ather than blaming anti-vaxxers, Professor Mills said officials should tackle their worries head-on and help them to understand the truth about vaccines.

    People unlikely to get the jab, she explained, are 'largely characterised by what has been termed conservative libertarians and those who ascribe to natural health solutions and are sceptical of medical research'.

    Professor Mills said it would be more effective to embrace those people's worries and try to address them, instead of criticising them.

    'It is important to address the need for information, rather than becoming embroiled in refuting groundless internet theories,' she wrote.

    The British Academy report found that 36 per cent of people in the UK say they are not likely to get a coronavirus vaccine when one is created.

    Surveys show 27 per cent of people are 'uncertain' about whether they would get one, while nine per cent said they are 'very unlikely' to - equating to some 5.9million people.

    If more than a third of people refuse to get vaccinated, developing a jab is unlikely to stop the outbreak at all.

    For one to work it must achieve herd immunity, in which so many people have had the vaccine that the virus cannot find enough un-vaccinated people to spread between.

    Even if the eventual vaccine cannot stop Covid-19 infection completely, it could reduce the severity of the disease and slash the death toll, squashing the virus to be something more like a cold than the deadly illness it is now.

    Professor Mills also warned that getting the vaccine out to tens of millions of people in the middle of an epidemic will be a logistical challenge.

    Local councils will need support to encourage people in all groups to get the jabs, she said, and the public must be given a good understanding of who should get the vaccine first and why.

    People most at risk from Covid-19 will be at the top of list when a vaccine becomes available, the Government has confirmed.

    This will start with the extremely vulnerable or those most likely to spread it, such as care home residents, the elderly or people who are shielding, and health and care workers.

    The jab will then likely trickle down through vulnerable age groups, people with serious health conditions, and then to healthier, younger people at the end.

    During this time, 'non-pharmaceutical interventions' - such as social distancing rules and lockdowns - will have to continue to keep the virus under control.

    'Vaccines and vaccination are two very different things,' Professor Mills added.

    'To achieve the estimated 80 per cent uptake of the vaccine required for community protection, we need a serious, well-funded and community-based public engagement strategy.'

    The report comes as sources revealed GCHQ has launched a cyber counter-attack against anti-vaccine propaganda spread by Russia.

    The spy agency has begun its cyber operation targeting hostile states and is using a toolkit developed to tackle recruitment material shared by Islamic State.

    The activity being targeted is linked to Moscow, which is thought to be attempting to exploit the chaos caused by the pandemic to undermine the West and strengthen its own interests.

    It is the latest step in the government's bid to tackle a rising tide of fake information being spread about a vaccine.

    The need to shutdown such information is growing increasingly more important as scientists close in on a reliable vaccine against Covid-19.

    UK AT 'FRONT OF THE PACK' TO GET PFIZER VACCINE AS DATA SUGGESTS IT IS 90% EFFECTIVE

    Boris Johnson promised the UK will be at the 'front of the pack' for a new coronavirus vaccine yesterday after a massive breakthrough - but appealed for Britons not to 'slacken our resolve' yet.

    The PM tried to cool hopes of an early end to lockdown after Pfizer and BioNTech revealed that initial results from a massive clinical trial suggest nine out of 10 people who get their jab are protected by it.

    The UK could now get 10million doses of the vaccine by Christmas - enough for five million Britons - with experts raising expectations that life could be 'back to normal' by the Spring.

    The FTSE 100 index enjoyed its best day since March on the back of the bombshell, with shares in airlines and hospitality firms spiking globally - although Zoom saw its value plunge.

    At a press conference yesterday evening, Boris Johnson said the UK was 'towards the front of the pack' to get the critical jabs. However, he warned that the biggest mistake the country could make now was to 'slacken our resolve'. 'Now it is more important than ever to follow the rules,' he said.
    Boris Johnson, pictured at a press conference tonight

    Boris Johnson, pictured at a press conference tonight

    Mr Johnson referred to his previous comments about the 'distant bugle of the scientific cavalry coming over the brow of the hill' to salvage the situation. 'I can tell you that tonight that toot of the bugle is louder, but it's still some way off, we absolutely cannot rely on this news as a solution,' he said.

    'The biggest mistake we could make now would be to slacken our resolve at a critical moment.'

    He added: 'I just don't want to let people run away with the idea that this development is a home run, a slam dunk, a shot to the back of the net, yet. There's a long way I am afraid before we have got this thing beaten.'

    Deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam voiced excitement about the Pfizer announcement, saying it boded well for other trial vaccines as they used the same broad approach, targeting the spike proteins of the virus - which it uses to invade cells.

    But he also cautioned that 'one swallow' did not make a summer and there could not be an easing of social distancing measures yet.

    MailOnline understands safety and efficacy data from Oxford University and AstraZeneca's coronavirus vaccine is on track to be published next week, meaning the actual approval process for the jab could begin weeks ahead of Pfizer - offering Britain a second shot of getting a jab before Christmas.

    Pfizer's chairman hailed the breakthrough a 'great day for science and humanity' while independent experts said the results were 'excellent' and 'really impressive'.

    However, in America controversy is brewing over the timing of the announcement, with supporters of Donald Trump raising suspicions that it was held back until after the knife-edge election - something the company denies. The firm had originally said it expected to know the results of its trial in October.

    Pfizer and BioNTech are expected to apply for approval to give out the jab in the US as soon as possible, but they must wait for long-term safety data to be completed. There are also concerns about the logistical challenges of distributing huge numbers of doses, which must be stored at around minus 70 degrees centigrade.

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    Re: Coronavirus

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...port-says.html

    Spreading anti-vaxx conspiracy theories should be a CRIME, top scientists say amid fears bogus claims will damage uptake of coronavirus jab

    Report from the Royal Society and British Academy called for regulation
    Groups spreading misinformation are 'skilled' and 'feed on fear', expert warned
    Concerns about vaccine safety should be addressed not amplified, they said
    Results yesterday claimed Covid-19 jab made by Pfizer is 90% effective

    By Sam Blanchard Senior Health Reporter For Mailonline

    Published: 10:51 EST, 10 November 2020 | Updated: 13:11 EST, 10 November 2020

    Spreading anti-vaccine conspiracy theories online should be a crime, according to some of Britain's top scientists.

    Professor Mills said it would be more effective to embrace those people's worries and try to address them, instead of criticising them.

    Realistically impossible, just as questions that arise concerning the Holohoax cannot be addressed because truth would prevail in open discussion. So vaccine denial will probably become another jailable offense in Brittain. These holy issues must not be assailed.
    " If you are on the wrong road progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road and in that case the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive man. There is nothing progressive about being pig-headed and refusing to admit a mistake. And I think if you look at the present state of the world it's pretty plain that humanity has been making some big mistake. We're on the wrong road. And if that is so we must go back. Going back is the quickest way on.” ---C. S. Lewis

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    Re: Coronavirus

    I'd normally post this in my chemtrails/morgellons thread, but I suspect morgellons disease is intimately linked to the demons' plans re the pending vax.

    New Cliff Carnicom presentation,

    Carnicom Institute Disclosure Project - Overview with Clifford Carnicom

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    Re: Coronavirus

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...port-says.html

    Spreading anti-vaxx conspiracy theories should be a CRIME, top scientists say amid fears bogus claims will damage uptake of coronavirus jab

    also dailymail.... go figure!

    What they DON'T tell you about Covid: Fewer beds taken up than last year, deaths a fraction of the grim forecasts, 95% of fatalities had underlying causes... and how the facts can be twisted to strike fear in our hearts


    • Despite the fearmongering, the number of Covid-19 deaths is significantly lower than the peak back in April
    • Latest ONS estimate shows that in the week ending November 14, new infections were already levelling off
    • GCHQ has embedded a team in Downing Street to provide Boris Johnson with real-time updates of Covid-19
    • Analysts will sift through vast amounts of data to ensure Boris Johnson has the most up-to-date information



    By ROSS CLARK FOR THE DAILY MAIL
    PUBLISHED: 17:23 EST, 20 November 2020 | UPDATED: 21:51 EST, 20 November 2020

    moar https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ar-hearts.html
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    Re: Coronavirus

    Scientifically and medically, there is no such thing as "Covid-19."

    There are no ordinary influenza cases reported or counted for several months.

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    Re: Coronavirus

    "Desperate efforts to control COVID surge across U.S. "

    Here are a couple of recent video clips telling about hospitals in El Paso TX and South Bend Indiana.

    The El Passo Mayor, Dee Margo, Tells story of overwhelmed hospitals because of outbreak "spike" with flood of COVID patients and dead bodies.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIQ37o0TTZ0 5 minute video

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    Same filthy lies to effect communist lockdown of America coming from hospital administrator in South Bend Indiana told by E. Michel Jones.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/W9AeX30wFc1v/ 59 minutes

    Truth is the people they are admitting to hospital are not sick enough to be hospitalized and they have many empty beds in the hospital and people with more serious conditions which require hospital care are being shut out by fake covid pandemic.

    Truth is there is no flood of seriously ill patients. Sick people deprived because of fake theatrical politial play being put on for the media.

    Same nonsense at several hospitals all over USA to deal with emergency level "spike" in "covid."

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    Re: Coronavirus

    a curfew is a military protocol
    NOT a medical protocol

    this tweeter fails The Hitler Test but whatever, open for 35s vid,
    https://twitter.com/AMErikaNGIRLLL/s...31371387940864

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    CALIFORNIA DEFIES 10pm curfew and sends a message to their Gov Gavin Adolf Newsom☆
    WE WILL NOT COMPLY



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    Re: Coronavirus

    "Pandemic is Over" - Former Pfizer Chief Science Officer Says "Second Wave" Faked On False-Positive COVID Tests



    by Tyler Durden
    Sun, 11/22/2020 - 23:00

    This video provides one of the most erudite and informative looks at Covid-19 and the consequences of lockdowns. As AIER notes, it was remarkable this week to watch as it appeared on YouTube and was forcibly taken down only 2 hours after posting.
    The copy below is hosted on LBRY, a blockchain video application. In a year of fantastic educational content, this is one of the best we’ve seen.

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    https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/pandemic-over-former-pfizer-chief-science-officer-says-second-wave-faked-false-positive
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    Re: Coronavirus

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    "Pandemic is Over" - Former Pfizer Chief Science Officer Says "Second Wave" Faked On False-Positive COVID Tests



    by Tyler Durden
    Sun, 11/22/2020 - 23:00

    This video provides one of the most erudite and informative looks at Covid-19 and the consequences of lockdowns. As AIER notes, it was remarkable this week to watch as it appeared on YouTube and was forcibly taken down only 2 hours after posting.
    The copy below is hosted on LBRY, a blockchain video application. In a year of fantastic educational content, this is one of the best we’ve seen.

    moar @
    https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/pandemic-over-former-pfizer-chief-science-officer-says-second-wave-faked-false-positive
    Yeah, better late than never, but I've been dropping links to that "Ex-Chief Science Officer says second wave faked, pandemic is over" story for 2 months. It was out back in Sept, on hubpages, sott.net and globalresearch.ca

    Here's what I've been sending out on him:

    Ex-Chief Science Officer, Dr. Michael Yeadon, says the second wave was faked with false positives from the PCR test and that the pandemic is over: https://www.globalresearch.ca/chief-...c-over/5724753 And from his twitter: "Look, I can’t be more direct. We can’t have a lethal pandemic sweeping the land, killing thousands of people & it NOT show up in the total mortality charts…It’s MISDIAGNOSES. Please wake up. It’s not even new. PCR false positive pseudo epidemics exist. We’ve got one. When in a pseudoepidemic everyone thinks it’s a real epidemic. But we don’t have extra deaths The fascinating thing about test related pseudo epidemics is that they vanish as soon as the aberrant test is halted. Nothing else changes because nothing else is happening.” He noted this example of a pseudo epidemic: https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html (false epidemic of whooping cough because of false positives from a PCR test).

    And there's Dr. BhakdiDr. Sucharit Bhakdi, world-renowned microbiologist, who wrote the book, “Corona: False Alarm?” also says this is a PCR pandemic rather than a true pandemic. “The more tests are performed, the more COVID-19 cases are found during the epidemic. This is the essence of a laboratory-created pandemic.” Dr. Bhakdi says “this virus is no more deadly than a seasonal flu and for people under 70, it is even less deadly than the seasonal flu (https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-...vid-19/5729661)





    The truth is out there, but anyone who get their "news" from the MSM won't get it.

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    Re: Coronavirus

    interview w Quantas Airlines CEO yest sparked reaction from alt media re imminent de facto travel ban for the un-666-vaxxed peeps. TruNews discussed, & I see these 2 new pieces this morning:

    New Max, 26m:

    SAY GOODBYE TO INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL



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    New Underworld Order is Corralling the Deltas and the Epsilons, and How to Resist

    November 24, 2020 Russ Winter Articles by Russ Winter, Business, Culture, International News, Politics, US News, Winter Watch Articles 1

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    I received the following news flash from my son along with his comment: “You will never fly again.”

    Sydney, Nov 24, 2020 (AFP) – International air travelers will need to be vaccinated against Covid-19 to fly with Australia’s Qantas, the airline’s CEO has said, adding the rule was likely to become “common” across the industry. Qantas CEO Alan Joyce said late Monday the Australian flag carrier would implement the measure once a coronavirus vaccine was made available to the public.

    Joyce predicted the rule would likely become standard practice among airlines around the world, with governments and airlines currently considering the introduction of electronic vaccination passports.

    The question of whether I will ever fly again is up in the air, so to speak, since other countries aren’t as draconian as Australia. But I have already made the decision to never set foot in or spend a penny on extreme Satanist-controlled nations like Australia that mandate Covid-1984 vaccines and impose heavy fines for mask “violations.”

    All this for a country that claims to have recorded a mere 907 Covid-1984 attributed deaths since the scamdemic began.

    However, ultimately, companies like Qantas will collapse, a self-inflicted casualty of their own hubris and paranoia. Already Qantas has grounded more than 200 planes and fired 8,500 staff as it attempts to offset a US$1.9 billion loss caused by the collapse in demand for air travel.

    I would characterize this as a mutual boycott. And I am in John Galt mode. Let the authoritarians go bankrupt.



    “This is John Galt speaking. I’m the man who’s taken away your victims and thus destroyed your world.”

    If you’ve understood what I’ve said, stop supporting your destroyers. Don’t accept their
    philosophy. Your destroyers hold you by means of your endurance, your generosity, your
    innocence, and your love. Examine your values and understand that you must choose one side or the other. Any compromise between good and evil only hurts the good and helps the evil.



    We will need to appraise how this shakes out, but avoiding Australia and its ilk as a tourist destination for thinking people looks obvious. Only delta/epsilon masochists who enjoy being herded like pasture animals would think otherwise.



    Incredibly, among those not willing to take a Covid vaccine, only 37% of Americans say the rushed timeline for the development of the vaccine is the main reason they would not be vaccinated. Another 26% say they want to wait to confirm the vaccine is allegedly safe.

    The latest Gallup poll now shows 58% of these delta and epsilon lemmings don’t really care, will hurry to be vaccinated and will rely on the word of known liars. The people are not even allowed to weigh in the issue, as the Crime Syndicate is busy censoring any reasonable debate. The trend of lemmings has been steadily increasing as the vaccine hype builds. Look for more zombies and epsilons once the vaccines commence.





    Of course, the big question is how the Crime Syndicate deals with the 42% who decline. It looks increasingly like sanctions will be applied, such as travel restrictions and BS like health passports. Bring it on. It’s a game of chicken. Let the authoritarians and their 58% lost cause lemmings collapse themselves. For the rest of us on board the Titanic it is now all about self-preservation.

    CS bots have worked over social media with false rumors that Ticketmaster will require proof of vaccination to attend their venues. This lie has been denied by the company, but it’s an example of neuro-linguistic programming that sticks in the clown-world minds of authoritarian followers.

    In the interim, PCR testing is all the rage.

    Who are these people? What triggered these people to get in line and wait hours in line for this? Assuming they’re not paid crisis actors…https://t.co/MzFIhYITAp
    — Jon Rappoport (@jonrappoport) November 23, 2020




    Here we see people being cuffed by authoritarians for mask violations at Costco. In thinking out our strategy for dealing with big box retailers, the issue for me is that it requires too much time shopping there with unhealthy masks on. Therefore, the Costcos, and Walmarts should be avoided and boycotted.

    Police and military are the enemy of actual liberty and deserve no sympathy for any misfortune that befalls them.
    Change my mind.pic.twitter.com/TAfMJ9ntq1
    — Machineguns&Drugs ❼ (@DrugMachineguns) November 23, 2020

    I now stick with Tesco, Marks & Spencer, Dr. Max (pharmacy) and the corner deli as they are smaller, more compact stores that one can get quickly in and get out. Other small grocers are now closing. The other option is delivery services.



    I drop my mask down to my chin, and on occasion am asked to “wear it properly.” For some reason, I am hardly ever hassled by anyone as I go about my business. It must be my age and demeanor – been that way for years. I just act like it’s still 2019, and I’m never rude.

    I recommend a maskless Eddie Haskell approach for our times. I’m also a known regular at Dr. Max and the deli, and they never enforce my half-assed sloppy mask wearing. Other than the entrance, Tesco doesn’t enforce either. If they did, I would walk with my wallet. Instead, I get a knowing grin from the female pharmacist at Dr. Max. I really think about half the people are in on the John Galt protest and are compliant with these routines. As long as they let me be, I will be a loyal customer – otherwise they don’t get a cent.

    If you have trouble at a Costco, I might recommend having a calm polite word (don’t make it personal) with the manager as to why you won’t be returning until conditions are normalized.

    The race industry and white demonization agitprop is nominal here, but in the US and UK the same boycott mentality and not a dime approach applies to any business and corporation that plays in that turd sandbox.

    Cultural Marxist Echo Chamber Infiltrates Gillette and Creates Toxic Ads

    There are other ways to resist; but primarily, walking with my wallet is more effective than giving store staff a hard time. So I comply, finish up and get the hell out of there. I don’t use a car and walk for my shopping. I give other people their 2-meter space, as doing so doesn’t cause the same self-inflicted harm that mask wearing does. Common sense.



    Finally, there is the concept of becoming a gray man. This is difficult for me in my locale, as I’m too dependent on American-accented English. Also, my friends universally tell me I look and act American. I am dressing down more, using Puma sweat pants and a plain jacket and a black or gray European-style beanie cap.

    Still, here are some tips on the gray man strategy, which is becoming increasingly important and might work well for others. Unfortunately, not wearing a mask pulls one out of the gray man baseline and makes you noticeable. You can use the mask to counter against surveillance. Just make sure your mouth and nose are uncovered, and use the mask to cover you cheeks and chin.


    https://www.winterwatch.net/2020/11/...how-to-resist/


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