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    Re: How can you tell if you have COVID-19?

    Great video by Spiro, dunno if already posted, but check out what is noted starting at 16:28 - the PCR test can very easily be manipulated to give the desired results, depending entirely on which way the wind is blowing on any given day, e.g. if a sample is amplified 60 times then the results will always be 100% positive for COVID-1984 -

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    Re: How can you tell if you have COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    I never said anything about excess deaths, just saying that SOME of those who do come down with something generally get hammered more than just the seasonal flu. The bio-weapon isn't killing everyone who shows symptoms, IFR according to the WHO is 0.14% which is nothing, comparable to the seasonal flu.

    We NEED allies, not turning off people we can sway to our side by denying there's a weird new pathogen. In order to do this we need to be accepting of a bio-weapon having been developed and released. The easiest way to gain allies among the true believers (which at this point is the majority of the people) is to be accepting of this (regardless if you yourself believe it or not). I find that people are far more open to discussing the matter if I acknowledge that a bio-weapon was developed and released.

    As Sun Tzu wrote: "Change their colors" (i.e. don't kill enemy troops, bring them into your own ranks to be serving YOUR cause).
    Well, if there was a new bioweapon out there that was killing people, then it would show up in the death counts. The death counts show that there's nothing new under the sun.

    We're just going to have to agree to disagree. I don't want to waste any more of my time on this.

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    Re: How can you tell if you have COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda View Post
    Well, if there was a new bioweapon out there that was killing people, then it would show up in the death counts. The death counts show that there's nothing new under the sun.

    We're just going to have to agree to disagree. I don't want to waste any more of my time on this.
    I never said it was killing people. Where are you getting that??

    I repeat: WE NEED ALLIES! We don't gain allies by attacking their belief system head-on, that only turns them off and they will not listen to you. I've been pretty successful bringing people around by telling them upfront that a bio-weapon was developed and released (which they easily accept generally speaking) and then move the discussion onto WHO the players are that got us into this situation and why. OTOH if I start off immediately saying, "There's no virus, it's a total hoax" then I lose them literally the first rattle out of the box. I've also noticed that at whatever point in a conversation if I deny the existence of the bio-weapon pathogen I lose them at that point as well and they shut down.

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    Re: How can you tell if you have COVID-19?

    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    Parasite or pathogen?
    The best treatments are for malaria. Makes ya wonder.

    We know they love to play with bacterium (Anthrax). Why not malaria?

    Mask fearing/mandates help exacerbate the issues.
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    Re: How can you tell if you have COVID-19?

    In reply to the few previous posts by Amanda and Midnight: I am firmly in Amanda's camp. My thinking is that there is 'ALWAYS' a new pathogen going around; this is the way of life and the world. I can see no evidence of "Covid!9" and there is no evidence. The CDC and WHO don't even have testable specimens of said virulent virus. The test kits were available years prior to the supposed pandemic. All we are being fed is misinformation. As Amanda has noted, there is no rise in death statistics as there would be if a deadly virus was stalking the land and if there is not a 'deadly' virus then what are we even arguing about here? No deadly virus means no pandemic; means complete mis-representation of facts (read lies); means no such animal as Covid19. Why is it such a stretch to go from a complete mis-representation to complete fabrication? I understand your point MR; if people are to be reached then you can perhaps do it by stages. By accepting a virus as fact, you won't alienate the average person who is too mind-fucked to accept that the government and press would be party to such a huge lie. So meeting them halfway is perhaps a way to get them into the camp that at least believes it is partly hoax.

    Myself, I refuse to participate in any type of short selling the truth.
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