Bohica

[Ares]

I think the stolen election illustrates that the states have great power. So much power that they can individually cheat their citizens, and the federal gov nor courts will even address it. The constitution states that the state legislatures determine how a president is elected. It does NOT state that they are elected through democratic elections in the states. That means that nominally honest states are being punked by a few corrupt states. The Union itself is in danger of disintegrating.

Agreed, the compact that created the union has been compromised 6 ways from Sunday. I honestly do not know how this country moves forward with a cheat and provable one at that occupying the white house.

Pennsylvania alone had over 200,000 more votes that registered voters. That was EASILY provable, and yet the state certified it and Congress with Pence's blessing certified it to make it official.

We essentially no longer have a country, or union for that matter. States openingly violated their own laws. Thousands of sworn affidavits attesting to election fraud in multiple states, and every single Constitutional safe guard failed.

How we move forward I'm not sure, I don't want conflict but I also don't see the state allowing people to withdraw consent either. They will continue to censor speech, and will go after weapons next.

They'll create a false flag a conservative will get the blame and will use that as a pretext to clamp down even harder on either the weapons themselves or more likely the ammunition. Elections will get more difficult as Beijing Biden opens the flood gates to illegal aliens, works to modify current voter laws all the while the illusion of choice becomes as clear that there isn't one.

[midnight rambler]

more likely the ammunition

As of this post -

CCI Mini Mag .22LR - $0.44/round and up (I loaded up last summer for $0.08/round for the exact same ammo)
5.56 - $1/round and up
9mm, the low end crap that used to sell for $0.16/round - $0.69/round and up, the better stuff yet still range ammo, i.e. Federal/CCI/Speer/etc. pushing $0.90/round
.357 magnum - $1.80/round and up
.380 auto - $1.50/round for brass cased and up

All prices plus S&H and in many cases plus tax, and what I listed are FMJ and not even decent self defense rounds. Who can practice at those prices??

[EE_]

As of this post -

CCI Mini Mag .22LR - $0.44/round and up (I loaded up last summer for $0.08/round for the exact same ammo)
5.56 - $1/round and up
9mm, the low end crap that used to sell for $0.16/round - $0.69/round and up, the better stuff yet still range ammo, i.e. Federal/CCI/Speer/etc. pushing $0.90/round
.357 magnum - $1.80/round and up
.380 auto - $1.50/round for brass cased and up

All prices plus S&H and in many cases plus tax, and what I listed are FMJ and not even decent self defense rounds. Who can practice at those prices??

This is killing the shooting industry. Most people will be shooting a lot less. I would think indoor ranges will soon see little business.
Most indoor ranges I've been to don't let you pick up your own brass. Used reloading brass will become even more scarce.
I'm glad I don't have to pay these prices, but new shooters are pretty much screwed.

[Tumbleweed]

I don't waste much ammunition practicing. I have dummy rounds to practice getting my sights on target and squeezing them off.
When I'm hunting I've studied the behavior of what I'm hunting and getting real close so I don't miss.
I think that's what everyone needs to do now that the communists have taken over this country.