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    OFF-GRID SURVIVOR ARRESTED! IS SELF-SUFFICIENT LIVING NOT ALLOWED?

    OFF-GRID SURVIVOR ARRESTED! IS SELF-SUFFICIENT LIVING NOT ALLOWED?


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    Re: Off-grid survivor arrested! Is self-sufficient living not allowed?

    This wasn't simply just an issue of someone living off grid on his own land. However this elderly gentleman was squatting, which I don't see an issue with if the property owner doesn't mind. In this particular case the property owner did mind and wanted the squatter off his property.

    Years ago I helped a friend remove a mentally ill squatter from a property he had just started leasing. It was very unpleasant and again the Sheriff had to be called to carry the squatter off to jail for criminal trespass while we filled a couple of roll off dumpsters with the many years worth of shit he had packed in there. There were literally hundreds of plastic five gallon pails he collected rainwater in.

    Again, the issue in the OP was squatting on someone else's property, NOT living off grid.
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    Re: Off-grid survivor arrested! Is self-sufficient living not allowed?


    Happy ending to the story of River Dave

    go to 6:10 to see the happy ending

    I posted this story because it seemed to me that someone in the community should have let him live on a part of their own land for free. I am well aware he was breaking the law and the owners of the land, after 27 years of him living peacefully on their land, needed to push him off their land. JJ youtube show host suggested that the government ought to give a small plot of land for these kind of people to live on for completely free, no charge at all. That seems reasonable and goad on the surface but whenever the government starts giving out "free" things, our sovereign republic gets rapidly ruined for everyone.


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    OFF-GRID SURVIVOR ARRESTED! IS SELF-SUFFICIENT LIVING NOT ALLOWED?

    OFF-GRID SURVIVOR ARRESTED! IS SELF-SUFFICIENT LIVING NOT ALLOWED?


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    Re: Off-grid survivor arrested! Is self-sufficient living not allowed?

    I know of a fellow locally who was squatting for years on some ranch land in the hill country (a large ranch I just happened to live on over 35 years ago, when this fellow was squatting on that the ranch it had changed hands since I lived there as a caretaker). He was not mentally ill however he was a very hardcore independent fellow who absolutely refused to participate in the beast system, he'd sooner die than do so (he endured a heart attack out there and refused to seek medical attention when it happened). He did have an automobile but no DRIVER LICENSE. He had a small travel trailer he was squatting in, he used solar panels and had to pack in his water. I know the land well there and it's very hard, rough terrain, typical of the hill country. The owners of the ranch at the time were ambivalent about him squatting there until they weren't.
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    Re: Off-grid survivor arrested! Is self-sufficient living not allowed?

    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    I know of a fellow locally who was squatting for years on some ranch land in the hill country (a large ranch I just happened to live on over 35 years ago, when this fellow was squatting on that the ranch it had changed hands since I lived there as a caretaker). He was not mentally ill however he was a very hardcore independent fellow who absolutely refused to participate in the beast system, he'd sooner die than do so (he endured a heart attack out there and refused to seek medical attention when it happened). He did have an automobile but no DRIVER LICENSE. He had a small travel trailer he was squatting in, he used solar panels and had to pack in his water. I know the land well there and it's very hard, rough terrain, typical of the hill country. The owners of the ranch at the time were ambivalent about him squatting there until they weren't.
    Further info: long story but some asshole set this fellow up for capture by state agents (SOME people get very jealous of those who are totally free). He spent SIX weeks in county jail without ever seeing a magistrate (in ultra liberal Travis County). Then one day when an assistant county attorney was interviewing him it came to light that this fellow was COMPLETELY off-grid, i.e. with NO utility easement, and at that point the assistant county attorney leaned back in her chair and said, "I think I can get you off on this." Within 24 hours he was out of jail and he never saw a magistrate. So apparently the key is not having any utility easements.
    "A man is to be held accountable for the thoughts he chooses to entertain." --Richard Alan Miller

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    Re: Off-grid survivor arrested! Is self-sufficient living not allowed?

    "He spent SIX weeks in county jail without ever seeing a magistrate ... it came to light that this fellow was COMPLETELY off-grid"

    It's a question of status.

    The first night in jail he was a stranger.

    The second night he became a guest.

    Successive nights his status became aghenhine or, as far as I can decipher, a member of the household.

    Yes you can be a member of a household called a jail. Or you might avoid this trust relationship by not accepting the hospitality of the jail. I suspect if he had turned down the hot dogs and beans he woulda been cut loose in 72 hours

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