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    Re: WW4 kicked off in Ukraine...?

    Some Russian perspective on the situation in Ukraine from a Russian Colonel -

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...704069121.html
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    Truthful Ukrainian/French woman got on French TV- said Zelensky is a puppet, why should we defend this puppet govt, also said people of Ukraine are poor, with costs going up (half of wages go toward heating/fuel--which is something Putin spoke about in his "Empire of Lies" speech:

    https://rumble.com/vw8uwb-march-2-2022.html


    Also, good thread here on all the top foreign policy strategists who warned about NATO expansion--our (((foreign policy establishment))) did this deliberately because they want war:

    https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/st...91107902062592
    Most fascinating thing about the Ukraine war is the sheer number of top strategic thinkers who warned for years that it was coming if we continued down the same path. No-one listened to them and here we are. Small compilation thread of these warnings, from Kissinger to Mearsheimer.


    The first one is George Kennan, arguably America's greatest ever foreign policy strategist, the architect of the U.S. cold war strategy. As soon as 1998 he warned that NATO expansion was a "tragic mistake" that ought to ultimately provoke a "bad reaction from Russia".
    Then there's Kissinger, in 2014 ⬇️

    He warned that "to Russia, Ukraine can never be just a foreign country" and that the West therefore needs a policy that is aimed at "reconciliation".

    He was also adamant that "Ukraine should not join NATO"


    This is John Mearsheimer - probably the leading geopolitical scholar in the US today - in 2015: "The West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path and the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked [...] What we're doing is in fact encouraging that outcome."


    This is Jack F. Matlock Jr., US Ambassador to the Soviet Union from 1987-1991, warning in 1997 that NATO expansion was "the most profound strategic blunder, [encouraging] a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threat [...] since the Soviet Union collapsed"


    This is Clinton's defense secretary William Perry explaining in his memoir that to him NATO enlargement is the cause of "the rupture in relations with Russia" and that in 1996 he was so opposed to it that "in the strength of my conviction, I considered resigning".


    This is Noam Chomsky in 2015, saying that "the idea that Ukraine might join a Western military alliance would be quite unacceptable to any Russian leader" and that Ukraine's desire to join NATO "is not protecting Ukraine, it is threatening Ukraine with major war."


    Stephen Cohen, a famed scholar of Russian studies, warning in 2014 that "if we move NATO forces toward Russia's borders [...] it's obviously gonna militarize the situation [and] Russia will not back off, this is existential" Whole video worth watching: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uE9jUL


    This is famous Russian-American journalist Vladimir Pozner, in 2018, who says that NATO expansion in Ukraine is unacceptable to the Russian, that there has to be a compromise where "Ukraine, guaranteed, will not become a member of NATO."


    More recently, right before war broke out, this is famous economist Jeffrey Sachs writing a column in the FT warning that "NATO enlargement is utterly misguided and risky. True friends of Ukraine, and of global peace, should be calling for a US and NATO compromise with Russia."

    thread keeps going...

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    Re: WW4 kicked off in Ukraine...?

    US embassy just REMOVED all their Ukraine BIOWEAPON LAB DOCUMENTS from the website… Here they are…

    https://strangesounds.org/2022/02/us...-they-are.html
    DON'T TAKE THE VACCINE!

    THE SHIT HAS HIT THE FAN!

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    Though the (((MSM))) likes to tell the sheep that the whole world condemns evil Putin, apparently, much of the world sees through the BS and knows that the US is responsible for this Ukraine/Russia mess

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/0...ay-7.html#more

    he crisis, and especially the reaction of the 'west' to it, is much worse than I had feared.
    The U.S. government and 'western' media claim that the World condemns Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
    That is however far from reality. It is only true if true if you believe 'the world' solely exists of the 5-eye spying cooperation (U.S., UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand), the European Union, Switzerland, Japan and Singapore.
    The view differs when you zoom out.

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/11i/ukrnarrative-s.jpg
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    The much bigger 'rest of the world' has not condemned Russia but understands how the conflict came about. They blame, like political scientist John Mearsheimer, the U.S. for causing the crisis. This includes, as far as I can tell, all of Africa (54 states), South America, Central America, the Middle East, and all of Asia ex Japan and Singapore.
    This rest of the world that did not condemn Russia includes several notable U.S. allies and 'partners' like Turkey (Nato's second biggest army!), India, Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Israel.

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    More worth reading (IMO) at the link, including interesting predictions on where all this is going from a former US citizen,now Russian citizen.


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    And on the never-ending hypocrisy from the west, Russia went to the UN and dropped a truth-bomb, saying that the US govt overthrew Trump:



    Russia Invokes Trump's Stolen Election Claim in U.N. Speech

    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-invokes-trumps-stolen-election-claim-un-speech-1684280

    Russia tried on Wednesday to delegitimize United Nations criticism of its invasion of Ukraine by calling into question the actions of other countries, including the United States' "overthrowing" of former President Donald Trump.
    The U.N. passed a resolution Wednesday that condemned Russia's invasion and called for an immediate and complete withdrawal of all military forces from Ukraine. Russia forcefully rejected the resolution, calling claims the country was targeting civilians "fake" and saying other countries were hypocritical for supporting the resolution. Vassily Nebenzia, Russia's ambassador to the U.N., even said the United States, which supported the resolution, was "where the legitimately elected president of the country was overthrown."


    This guy also calls out the sickening hypocrisy:



    US / NATO Never Been Sanctioned for Starting Wars. Why?

    https://geopolitics.co/2022/03/02/us-nato-never-been-sanctioned-for-starting-wars-why/
    The reaction to Russia’s attack on Ukraine, no matter what you think about it, has exposed the West’s double standards.

    The West has taken an extreme stance against Russia over its invasion in Ukraine. This reaction exposes a high degree of hypocrisy considering that US-led wars abroad never received the punitive response they deserved.
    If the current events in Ukraine have proven anything, it’s that the United States and its transatlantic partners are able to run roughshod across a shell-shocked planet – in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria, to name a few of the hotspots – with almost total impunity. Meanwhile, Russia and Vladimir Putin are being portrayed in nearly every mainstream media publication today as the second coming of Nazi Germany for their actions in Ukraine.

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    And apparently the US is now out there calling on Putin to "stop the blood shed"--says the criminal govt that's been slaughtering millions for decades!!

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    Luongo: Opening Salvos Thrown, What Are Putin's Next Steps In Ukraine?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...-steps-ukraine

    In a post for my patrons on February 25th, responding to an excellent article by Alistair MacLeod I wrote the following:
    MacLeod: Both sides probably do not know how fragile the Eurozone banking system is, with both the ECB and its national central bank shareholders already having liabilities greater than their assets. In other words, rising interest rates have broken the euro system and an economic and financial catastrophe on its eastern flank will probably trigger its collapse.
    I’ve been banging my shoe on this table for 3 years now. If the US/NATO respond with some kind of guerilla war here to hang Ukraine like an albatross around Putin’s neck, as we should expect, then Europe is in big trouble financially.
    Because the financial war will keep escalating as Putin responds militarily. Remember, he’s openly threatened the ‘decision makers’ here. And no amount of mealy-mouthed CIA/MI6 disinformation will deter him from action anymore.
    This is always what I meant by “spooks start civil wars, militaries end them.” There is no more War for Ukraine.
    I still believe that. This isn’t a war for Ukraine, it’s a war for the future of the entire world. Ukraine represents the hill both Davos and Russia have chosen to live or die on.

    The Afghanistan Gambit

    Davos has refused to let President Zelensky surrender because if he does then legally there is no more war to sanction Russia with. It’s not Putin’s War at that point, it is a settled conflict and terms negotiated.

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    I don't really trust VeteransToday, but this seems to be some interesting info on that Ukrainian Jew puppet Zelensky:



    Blockbuster: ‘Drag Queen’ Zelensky found a billion dollars and a villa in Miami

    Who knew Ukraine was run from a bagel shop in Miami Beach?
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/03/02/blockbuster-drag-queen-zelensky-found-a-billion-dollars-and-a-villa-in-miami/

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    Economic Warning! Russia & Energy = Imminent Financial/Economic Disaster


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    "US / NATO Never Been Sanctioned for Starting Wars. Why?"

    To be fair to the NATO war criminals destroying non-western countries,
    as a now older adult, my entire life living in a western country has been witness to direct public servant and politician policy and action of lowering most all quality of life indicators the entire time here at home as well.
    They went to war with Human Nature, Cold and Flu Season and the Weather!
    Corporation, a fiction legitimized by government, is part of big government
    Their men were like women and their women were like Jews

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    jta.org: Ukraine’s Zelensky to world’s Jews: ‘Do not remain silent right now’
    MARCH 2, 2022
    (JTA) — The morning after Russian bombs fell at the site of a 1941 massacre of Ukrainian Jews, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky called on the world’s Jews to speak out about what is happening in his country...

    “Addressing all the Jews of the world: Don’t you see why this happening? That is why it is very important that millions of Jews around the world do not remain silent right now. Nazism is born in silence,” Zelensky said. “So shout about the killings of civilians. Shout about the killings of Ukrainians.”...

    In the eight-minute address, which his office published with English subtitles and in Hebrew translation, Zelensky did not mention that he himself is Jewish or that his own family members were killed by Nazis.

    But his anguish over seeing a Holocaust killing site attacked was palpable, as he described how a TV station and sports complex had under Soviet rule been “built on the bones” of people murdered there “to erase the true history of Babyn Yar.”

    To Russia, he said, “You are killing Holocaust victims for the second time.”...

    The bombing appeared to center on the TV tower, knocking out state broadcasting. According to the museum’s Facebook page, it also resulted in damage to the memorial complex, although an Israeli reporter broadcasting from the site Wednesday said the monument was unscathed.
    jnews.uk: Facebook Allows Praise of Ukraine’s Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion
    February 25, 2022
    According to internal policy materials reviewed by The Intercept, Facebook will “allow praise of the Azov Battalion when explicitly and exclusively praising their role in defending Ukraine OR their role as part of Ukraine’s National Guard.” Internally published examples of speech that Facebook now deems acceptable include “Azov movement volunteers are real heroes, they are a much needed support to our national guard”; “We are under attack. Azov has been courageously defending our town for the last 6 hours ”; and “I think Azov is playing a patriotic role during this crisis.”

    The materials stipulate that Azov still can not use Facebook platforms for recruiting purposes or for publishing its own statements and that the regiment’s uniforms and banners will remain as banned hate symbol imagery, even while Azov soldiers may fight wearing and displaying them. In a tacit acknowledgment of the group’s ideology, the memo provides two examples of posts that would not be allowed under the new policy: “Goebbels, the Fuhrer and Azov, all are great models for national sacrifices and heroism” and “Well done Azov for protecting Ukraine and its white nationalist heritage. ”

    In a statement to The Intercept, company spokesperson Erica Sackin confirmed the decision but declined to answer questions about the new policy.
    They went to war with Human Nature, Cold and Flu Season and the Weather!
    Corporation, a fiction legitimized by government, is part of big government
    Their men were like women and their women were like Jews

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    Anyone else getting a bad case of Jew Fatigue? I know, it's going to get alot worse.
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    Good to see Syria stand with Russia.
    I'm so sick of the 24/7 propaganda and all the stupid sheep who immediately fall for the BS.
    "Syria condemns the campaign organised and led by the West and its media against Russia"


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    Did you see all the abstentions? China abstained, the Money Powers are that powerful.
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