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    Re: WW4 kicked off in Ukraine...?

    It is painful to watch...It is painful to watch.

    Holy shit! Idiocracy is officially here.
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    Video at link--Ukrainian woman says Ukrainian military firing on civilians, then try to blame Russia

    Witness Exposes Ukrainian Army False Flag Operation in Donbass

    March 12, 2022 By NEWS WIRE 2 Comments

    Recently, western political leaders and mainstream media have begun injecting a new talking point into their anti-Russian and wartime discourse: that Russia is planning an endless series of ‘false flag attacks.’

    Never mind the fact that, historically speaking, Russia has no visible track record of false flag operations.

    Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for either the US and Britain – both have an extremely long list of military and political deceptions which they’ve used to start and prolong various wars around the world.
    Currently, in the Donbass region, formerly in eastern Ukraine, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are firing indiscriminately into civilian towns and villages – and then attempting to blame their own violent actions on Russia. The shelling of civilian areas has been going on continuous there since the civil war began in 2014. This is extremely worrying, because in the current anti-Russian western media ecosystem, any accusations leveled at Russia are never questioned, before being beamed across all western global news networks. And that is exactly what is happening right now with mainstream media coverage in Ukraine.



    Independent journalist Patrick Lancaster is on the ground in Donbass region in the Luhansk and Donetsk People’s Republics, and has recently interviewed local witnesses who have confirmed these very war crimes, carried out by NATO-backed Ukrainian Army and their Nazi-Azov Battalions.

    Watch his stunning reportage here:

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    Re: WW4 kicked off in Ukraine...?

    Russian Minister Lavrov Answers Reporters Questions, March 10. The video is about an hour long.


    Sergey Lavrov’s Answers to Media - Antalya Diplomacy Forum - March 10, 2022 - English Subtitles

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    Press Conference with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov at Antalya Diplomacy Forum, March 10, 2022
    Topics covered include the ongoing conflict in Ukraine; the potential fallout of Russian sanctions;
    Russia's justification of the war;
    the bombing of the maternity hospital in Mariupol;
    the threat of biological and chemical weapons and research; the state of the Russian economy;
    and prospects for a ceasefire diplomatic settlement
    10 March 2022

    Full coverage in Russian with English subtitles.

    Press interviews:
    00:00 - Opening Address by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov
    04:35 - Anadolu News Agency - Question about the Current Status of the War
    09:56 - CNBC News - How do you Justify the War? (Hospital bombing and Economic Fallout)
    18:10 - Prvi Kanal - Prospects of a Diplomatic Settlement with Ukraine
    21:27 - TV Ukraina - Status of Crimean Tatars and Kidnapping of Officials
    24:43 - AGI News (Italy) - Question on Biological Weapons
    26:21 - Question on US-led Sanctions and Possible Russian Reciprocity
    28:20 - British Sky News - Why Should the World Believe Russia?
    33:52 - CCTV - Question on Ceasefire Possibilties
    36:45 - A News - US ban on Imports of Russian Oil and Gas
    40:21 - Wall Street Journal - Does Russia have any red lines regarding Countries that send Military Assistance to Ukraine?
    42:49 - Gazeta Kommersant - Do you believe a Nuclear War could Start?
    45:04 - Kazakh journalist - Kazakhstan as a Place for Peace Talks?
    47:11 - BBC News - Is Russia really serious about seeking a negotiated solution to this crisis? If so, what did you bring to the table today, what progress, if any, did you make? How can you talk of diplomacy, ceasefires and negotiations, when maternity hospitals are being struck, when so many civilians are dying?

    Full transcript can be found here - https://www.mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/...

    Russian Foreign Ministry website - https://www.mid.ru/en/
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    Re: WW4 kicked off in Ukraine...?

    Ukraine Army drops cluster bomb in center of Donetsk, the very same thing that's been happening for eight years, yet let's all cheer on Ukraine!

    https://twitter.com/PLnewstoday/stat...21952160780288
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    Re: WW4 kicked off in Ukraine...?

    3/14 update from Gonzalo, watch out for false flag with chemical weapons, 9 minute video -


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    Re: WW4 kicked off in Ukraine...?

    March 15 Update From Russian Ministry of Defense

    Reality Theories, Eva K Bartlett, [3/15/22 2:43 AM]
    [Forwarded from MoD Russia]
     Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

    ▪️ The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation took full control of the entire territory of Kherson region.


    ▪️ The grouping of troops of the Donetsk People's Republic, continuing offensive, broke through the defence of Ukrainian nationalists and took control of Panteleimonovka and reached Verkhnetoretskoye - Novoselovka-2 line.


     In total, over the past day, aviation and air defence of the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down 16 air targets: 1 Su-24 and Su-25 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force, 1 Mi-8 helicopter and 13 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles, including 6 Bayraktar TB-2.


    ✈️  Operational-tactical, army and unmanned aviation hit 136 military infrastructure assets of Ukraine, including: 7 command posts and communication centres, 4 anti-aircraft missile systems, 3 multiple launch rocket systems, 4 radar stations for reconnaissance, target illumination and targeting of S-300 anti-aircraft missile system, 1 electronic warfare station, 4 ammunition and fuel depots and 72 areas of military equipment concentration.


     Three hangars containing 4 Ukrainian Su-25 assault aircraft, 1 Mi-24 and 5 Mi-8 helicopters were destroyed at a military airfield near Kramatorsk.


     In total, 156 unmanned aerial vehicles, 1,306 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 127 multiple launch rocket systems, 471 field artillery and mortars, as well as 1,054 units of special military vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed during the operation.


     On the evening of March 14, units of the Russian Airborne Troops captured a strong point of nationalists and foreign mercenaries near Guta-Mezhigorskaya.


    ▪️Russian paratroopers seized 10 American-made Javelin anti-tank missile systems and a number of other weapons supplied by Western countries to Ukraine.


    ▪️All seized Javelin anti-tank missile systems and other foreign weapons are handed over to the units of the People's Militia of the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics.




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    Re: WW4 kicked off in Ukraine...?

    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    Ukraine Army drops cluster bomb in center of Donetsk, the very same thing that's been happening for eight years, yet let's all cheer on Ukraine!

    https://twitter.com/PLnewstoday/stat...21952160780288
    Much more here

    https://www.stalkerzone.org/terroris...re-of-donetsk/
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    “Democracy is also a form of worship. It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses. It is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”
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    "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
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    Re: WW4 kicked off in Ukraine...?

    This journalist is still over there now--further up on this thread, I posted a video of her saying that the Ukrainian military were killing Ukrainian civilians (no surprise there, Gonzalo also said the same thing, so they could use for PR and say "look what evil Putin did")

    Donbass - 2016. Documentary Anne-Laure Bonnel (subtitles EN FR SPA ITA)



    Dozens Killed by Ukrainian Tochka Missile Attack on Center of Donetsk

    The Donetsk forensic people have a lot of experience after so many years of this, so we will have a full postmortem report from everything they collected today

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/03/14/dozens-killed-by-ukrainian-tochka-missile-attack-on-center-of-donetsk/


    [ Editor’s Note: This is the worst combat footage I have seen so far from this war. Dead kids is definitely a bummer, but for the Ukie guys that fired the Tochka missile at the time of day when the old folks are out doing their shopping, a special place in hell awaits them.
    This appears to me to be an angry army commander wanting to get some licks in by targeting a “can’t miss” target like downtown Donetsk, and kill the parents and grandparents of those fighting Kiev.
    We see now why the two Republics evacuated the women and children earlier so that they would not be in this video. But as you will see, a lot of the old folks stayed.
    The good news about the Tochka is it leaves lots of evidence around, as the lower part with the engine and fuel can always be found with its serial number, as this one was.
    We have news the incoming missile was hit by anti-aircraft fire, hence the wreckage was spread out due to that. The early story mentioned cluster munitions, possibly due to no big single crater from a large warhead that I could see in Lancaster’s video.
    The Donetsk forensic people have a lot of experience after so many years of this, so we will have a full postmortem report from everything they collected today Jim W. Dean ]



    CrossTalk: ‘Ukraine’s Uncertain Future’ with guests Patrick Henningsen and Dmitry Babich

    https://21stcenturywire.com/2022/03/15/crosstalk-ukraines-uncertain-future-with-guests-patrick-henningsen-and-dmitry-babich/
    March 15, 2022 By NEWS WIRE 0 Comments

    The Russia-Ukraine conflict has entered its third week and still no sign that hostilities will be winding down anytime soon. Ukraine’s President Zelensky and his NATO member state backers are vowing to “fight to the end,” signaling that they will not accept any of Russia’s demands, and nothing short of an immediate withdrawal of Russian forces from Ukrainian territory. But that’s not likely to happen anytime soon.

    As a result, Ukraine’s fate is in the balance. No matter what happens, Europe’s security calculus has been changed forever.
    CrossTalking with host Peter Lavelle are guests Patrick Henningsen and Dmitry Babich. Watch: video at link


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    Re: WW4 kicked off in Ukraine...?

    nothing new here...just another jew trying to start WWIII

    Zelensky Invokes Pearl Harbor, MLK & 9/11 In Emotional Plea For "Humanitarian No Fly Zone"

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-live-zelensky-addresses-congress-emotional-plea-west-imposed-no-fly-zone


    Humanitarian flights for Ukraine loaded with weapons, protesting airport workers claim

    Samizdat | March 15, 2022

    https://alethonews.com/2022/03/15/humanitarian-flights-for-ukraine-loaded-with-weapons-protesting-airport-workers-claim/
    One of Italy’s largest trade unions has called for a protest outside the Pisa airport on Saturday, after receiving a tip from some employees that Ukraine relief flights were transporting weapons and ammunition, not food and medicine.

    Several workers at the Galileo Galilei airport refused to load one of the cargo flights advertised as carrying humanitarian aid to Ukraine. The crates did not contain food and medication but weapons, ammunition and explosives instead, the Unione Sindacale di Base (USB) said in a statement on Monday evening.

    “We strongly denounce this outright falsification, which cynically uses ‘humanitarian’ aid as cover to fuel the war in Ukraine,” the USB said.

    The union said the workers refused to load the military supplies as that would lead to the deaths of their colleagues in Ukraine – namely, those working at the bases targeted by Russian missile strikes, where the weapons processed through US and NATO bases in Poland get delivered.

    Francesca Donato, an Italian member of the European Parliament, commented on the union’s statement by calling on the government in Rome to “clarify” what is happening.
    Meanwhile, dockworkers at the nearby port of Livorno joined the protest on Tuesday, praising their airport colleagues for standing up for their values.
    “We stand alongside the Ukrainian peoples, the Donbass and Russia and we do not want to be complicit in this conflict,” the Porto Livorno chapter of USB said in a statement.

    USB is calling for air traffic control of the Pisa airport to “immediately block these flights of death disguised as humanitarian aid.” A protest under the slogan “bridges of peace, not flights of war” is scheduled outside the airport for Saturday, March 19.
    The union also called on all workers to refuse to load weapons and explosives, and for an immediate ceasefire and peace talks to end the conflict in Ukraine.

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