Flat earthers are a real hoot

[ziero0]

All you flat-earth deniers need to do is simply show me photographs of earth from outer space. With all the missions sent out, you would think it is not so hard... but we find it is impossible. Why is that?

Why are you presuming space travel isn't done with mirrors?

[Ares]

All you flat-earth deniers need to do is simply show me photographs of earth from outer space. With all the missions sent out, you would think it is not so hard... but we find it is impossible. Why is that?

That's been done multiple times. Hell you can look up Bing, Yahoo, Google, etc. and look for Earth from space images. Even from the international Space station.

Flat Earthers just deny it and state that all the nations that have gone to space are just liars perpetuating a con.

https://gprivate.com/64gaq

Here, feel free to search and lay out all of the conspiracies of why the images are fake.

[ziero0]

Helps to know a little set theory when reading the following. Sets are collections of objects that share certain traits. The symbol at the beginning represents all the elements in the set, the squiggly brackets are the boundary markers, x is any individual element in the set and the colon is read "such that" followed by a description of the trait discussed.

A = { x : an event real or imagined } describes the set of all events that might be discussed

B = { x : a real event } and C = { x : an imaginary event } are subsets of the first set and the union of these two subsets will equal A. The intersection of B and C is the null set (signifying that all events can be classified either real or imagined).

D = { x : an event past}
E = { x : an event present }
F = { x : an event future }

Now the moon landing and the Boston marathon bombing are elements of sets D and A. Either event may be considered a member of B or C but at this point we really have insufficient evidence to assign a B/C determination. But we can rule out these as belonging to sets E or F. The reason is our senses determine our present and our imaginations create our future.

All future events may be assigned to sets C and F. These events are speculation. Global warming is such an event.

The events you have to worry about are B/E events. A tornado at your front door is a B/E. A hurricane, a fire, your car having an accident while you are driving is a B/E. Putin knocking on your door announcing he wants to be your friend is a B/E.

You broke your arm 30 years ago. This is a B/C member. It was real and you can still feel the bump.

A Flat Earth is a mathematical concept that involves geometry. Think of a pyramid. This is a three dimensional object (and maybe more). When viewed from directly below it appears as a 2d square object. FLAT Now imagine there is a point in space where a sphere may be observed where it appears FLAT. Anywhere on the surface would fit this concept. Above it appears as a sphere. Below the surface and you become part of the object.


G = { x : it occupies a position on the surface of a sphere }.

G represents any object real or imagined that is not above or below the surface that defines the sphere. G describes a Flat Earther's view. The Living belong to G. The Dead do not. Their view is from 6 ft below the surface and they become Earth.

Biden isn't president on Flat Earth. Just ask him. His view is Earth is a sphere. He is saying he is above the Earth and not on the Earth. His view is from somewhere off in space. The perfect definition of an ALIEN!

[Spectrism]

That's been done multiple times. Hell you can look up Bing, Yahoo, Google, etc. and look for Earth from space images. Even from the international Space station.

Flat Earthers just deny it and state that all the nations that have gone to space are just liars perpetuating a con.

https://gprivate.com/64gaq

Here, feel free to search and lay out all of the conspiracies of why the images are fake.

First, the space station is NOT outer space. It is near earth orbit, not unlike what helium balloons do. The link you posted is showing pics which are staged/edited to fit the narrative. Where are the stars in any of them? The curved edge of the earth matches the curve of the straight arms of the station, which means the earth curve is a lens artifact.

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/f...earth_moon.png


Here is one supposedly from the Apollo 17 mission to moon landing.
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/f...-148-22727.jpg

Where are the stars? If they actually had stars, we could triangulate positions. Very hard to get them exact without high power computers. It is not a photo. Geometry. If Africa and the Indian Ocean take up half the earth surface, how do you fit North America, the Pacific Ocean and the Atlantic Ocean on the other side?

Here is another of that vintage... no color. Hmm... was the other one "color-added"?
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/f...00013_orig.jpg

Again, where are the stars?

Here is one of Lucy... how cute using a shortened name for Lucifer.
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/f...earth_moon.png

Again, where are the stars?

When the astro-nots were asked about seeing stars while on the moon, the answer given was: "I don't remember seeing any." LOL... of course not when they are in a filming studio.

Show me ONE picture you think is legitimate of earth... not a near earth photo, but go out at least half way to moon... which is supposedly around 275,000 miles away.

Do a search of space, stars, moon... photos... MOST of them are "artist renderings" or copy-paste-paint... raw photos seem to be a rarity.

I can take pics of moon and sky with a cheap camera and see stars & Mars, Jupiter, Venus, constellations... but for some reason, the NASA pics have no stars. You have to start wondering how much of Hubble pics are CGI. Most of those are obvious composites at best.

[Spectrism]

It seems they have been scrubbing the internet of most of their early "photograph" blunders. The liars are hiding their obvious lies.

See anything wrong with this photograph?
https://images.fineartamerica.com/im...space-nasa.jpg

I remember for the longest time (1990s and earlier) that this was the only picture used in so many publications. I wondered why Africa?
Maybe you can figure it out.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/201...29eb-s1200.png

[keehah]

space.com: Geocentric model: The Earth-centered view of the universe

December 17, 2021
According to a 2012 survey conducted by the National Science Foundation of 2,200 people in the United States, when asked "does the Earth go around the sun, or does the sun go around Earth?" a quarter answered incorrectly.

This antiquated view was once our only perspective of the cosmos. The ancient Greeks were the first to suggest a geocentric view of the universe. According to NASA, Eudoxus was the first to create a model of the geocentric universe around 380 BCE. Aristotle then came up with a more detailed geocentric model, which was later refined by Claudius Ptolemaeus (also known as Ptolemy) in his treatise Almagest, which was released in the 2nd century CE according to the Mathematical Association of America...

Despite the complexity of the model, this view was widely accepted for many years. And most of the time the model worked.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?87032-Flat-Earth-PsyOp-Trending-on-BeforeItsNews

academic.oup.com: CHAPTER 2 The Talmudic View of the Universe

May 2013
This chapter describes the talmudic model of the universe. The rabbis of the Talmud believed that the world was flat, and that the sun revolved around the Earth every day. There is a debate about the length of the solar year in the Talmud, and its consequences and the rare Jewish ceremony of the Blessing of the Sun (Birkat Hahammah) are discussed. The view of the talmudic rabbis is contrasted with that of the contemporary Greek astronomers. While the rabbis of the Talmud argued about the size of the flat Earth, the Greeks had determined the Earth to be a sphere, had calculated its circumference and had moved on to consider other questions.

wikipedia.org: Biblical cosmology

The ancient Israelites envisaged the universe as a flat disc-shaped Earth floating on water, heaven above, underworld below. Humans inhabited Earth during life and the underworld after death; there was no way that mortals could enter heaven, and the underworld was morally neutral...

The idea that the Earth was a sphere was developed by the Greeks in the 6th century BCE, and by the 3rd century BCE this was generally accepted by educated Romans and Greeks and even by some Jews.

[osoab]

Fidelito is fascinated by us.
Skip to 1:08:00


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0UCoTEZCAQ

[midnight rambler]

No, he's exploiting flat earther antics as a distraction and as a means of discrediting anyone saying/writing anything which is in contrast to the official narrative. They have a term for such people who provide cover for the usual suspects - useful idiots.

[Spectrism]

I ask for real photographs and I get:
1. Cry baby answers of "they are everywhere"
2. References to different models
3. Diversions with Talmud crap, and feigned history lessons
4. Aspersions of false conspiracies to sidetrack the brilliant independent true thinkers (sarc)

I will leave you with this: YOU have the power of choice and with your choices you get consequences which you have NO power over. Each false choice you make leads you deeper into a hole. With pride and careful false direction you will be unable to see the truth, and delusion will be given to you so that you can believe the lies you cherish.... all the while you think you are doing good.

[midnight rambler]

I can make a much better case the earth is a toroid* than your case that's it flat.

Kindly explain why Polaris cannot be seen far south and why the Southern Cross cannot be seen far north, as well as why the stars rotate in opposite directions north vs. south. You flat earth zombies have NO explanation for that.

*the torus is nature's perfectly balanced dynamic energy flow process, tori are found everywhere in nature so there's every reason to believe that the earth is toroid...this would account for 'inner earth' (as well as in harmony with Admiral Byrd's observations) AND the heavens rotating in opposite directions N and S, as well as why a BS 'flat earth theory' has been propagated, to confuse everyone and distract them from the truth of a toroid earth