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    CIA can withhold records on Oklahoma City bombing

    http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14786362

    Federal court » Judge says documents are exempt from disclosure

    By Pamela Manson

    The Salt Lake Tribune

    Updated: 03/30/2010 05:43:38 PM MDT

    A federal judge in Utah says the Central Intelligence Agency can withhold documents on the Oklahoma City bombing investigation and prosecution, agreeing that the records were properly withheld for national security and other reasons.

    The ruling by U.S. District Judge Clark Waddoups reveals for the first time that the CIA worked with the Department of Justice on the bombing probe, according to Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue, who requested the records under the federal Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

    Twelve documents connected to the investigation were at issue, including an April 20, 1995, cable that outlines a prosecutor's attempt to extradite an "organized crime figure from another country." Other records include cables sent in April and May 1995 relaying information provided to a U.S. ambassador by a foreign official; information from a "foreign liason contact" that is classified as secret; and information from a foreign government about the possible identification of a suspect in the bombing.

    The general descriptions were provided by the CIA in refusing Trentadue's FOIA requests for documents on potential involvement of foreign nationals in the attack. The lawyer -- who received some documents with only the name of the agency to which they were directed and others that were withheld entirely -- argues in his suit that the dozen documents should have been released to him.

    The CIA says it complied with FOIA and that each
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    document falls under a category exempting it from release. The agency and Trentadue both filed motions asking Waddoups to find in their favor in the dispute, leading to the judge's ruling on Friday.

    Trentadue believes the records could provide information about the death of his brother in a federal prison cell in Oklahoma City a few months after the April 19, 1995, bombing that killed 168 people at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. Kenneth Trentadue, a 44-year-old convicted bank robber who was being held on an alleged parole violation, was found hanged in August 1995.

    Authorities say Trentadue committed suicide, but his family believes the inmate was mistaken for a bombing conspirator and that guards strangled him with a set of plastic handcuffs in an interrogation that got out of hand. To support that theory, Jesse Trentadue has filed several lawsuits over the years in Utah's federal court seeking records on the bombing investigation. The suit before Waddoups was filed in 2008.

    Timothy McVeigh was convicted of carrying out the bombing and executed in 2001. Conspirator Terry Nichols is serving a life sentence at the U.S. Penitentiary Administrative Maximum Facility in Florence, Colo.

    Documents requested by Trentadue include ones on Andreas Carl Strassmeir, a German national who he believes might have been an associate of McVeigh.

    On a separate issue, Trentadue on Monday filed a motion asking Waddoups to order the government to produce videotapes collected from surveillance cameras on the exterior of the Murrah Building on the morning of the bombing. The motion says the FBI has not responded to his requests for those tapes.

    pmanson@sltrib.com

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    Re: CIA can withhold records on Oklahoma City bombing

    this bullsh**t is sooo predictable.....

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    Re: CIA can withhold records on Oklahoma City bombing

    It's obvious that the truth of the OK City bombing is much more than the official Story.
    But nothing is done about it.
    There is no government agency that will investigate and bring forth the truth.

    This is the core situation in America today; Lawlessness by government and no prosecution of it.
    Item after item is brought out and again and again nothing comes of it.

    This can't continue.

    Is there a Sheriff or a Prosecuting Attorney or someone with authority anywhere who will call foul?
    The government never worked for us.
    It just used to have far less power to work against us.


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    Re: CIA can withhold records on Oklahoma City bombing

    Prof James Tracy podcast, 1 hr.

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    The bombing of the Murrah Federal Building on April 19, 1995 was one of the most horrific events in US history, resulting in the deaths of 168 individuals, 19 of whom were children. Despite the magnitude of the event the ensuing federal investigation raised many more questions than explanations of what took place on that fateful day. Close to ten years in the making, A Noble Lie tells a story that has been censored from official and popular recollections of Oklahoma City bombing.

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    Chris Emery is a film writer, director, and producer living in Oklahoma City. He is currently working on his seventh documentary film. Emery’s interest in the truth movement was spawned several years ago as he discovered a consistent pattern of lies and deception contained in the US government’s “official accounts” of the shootout at Ruby Ridge, the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, the Waco massacre, the Oklahoma City bombing, the downing of TWA Flight 800, and the 9/11 fiasco.


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    Re: CIA can withhold records on Oklahoma City bombing

    Israel's fingerprints.

    "National Security".

    yeah, like Clinton's pardon of Israeli Jew Marc Rich.
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    Re: CIA can withhold records on Oklahoma City bombing

    FBI wants judge to toss Oklahoma City bombing video case.

    In court papers filed in U.S. District Court and obtained by FOX 13, the FBI claims Jesse Trentadue “has put forward no credible evidence of any other location or search method likely to yield additional tapes or documents that match the parameters of Plaintiff’s request under the Freedom of Information Act.”

    FBI motion for judgment in Oklahoma City bombing evidence case

    A trial over Trentadue’s request for the videotape wrapped up earlier this month with a ruling anticipated before the end of the year.
    Trentadue sued the FBI, claiming it withheld information from him about the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168. He was seeking the information as part of a wrongful death lawsuit he filed against the government over the death of his brother.
    Trentadue claims the FBI mistook his brother, Kenneth Trentadue, for a co-conspirator and beat him to death during an interrogation. The FBI claims Kenneth Trentadue hanged himself in his cell.
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    Re: CIA can withhold records on Oklahoma City bombing

    This is a follow up to the post above this. I had forgotten...

    Came across this story on ZH.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...-w-okc-bombing

    Linked to this story on Mother Jones.
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...-city-bombing/

    Probably the best paragraph from MJ article.
    On July 6, 1996, more than 10 months after Kenney’s death, the grand jury was convened. Justice officials from Washington went to the trouble of commuting to Oklahoma City to oversee the proceedings. It was an election year, and President Clinton’s attorney general, Janet Reno—still under a cloud for her handling of the Waco siege three years earlier—was preparing to try McVeigh and Nichols. The last thing the doj needed was a trial, in Oklahoma City, accusing its employees of murder and obstruction of justice.
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    Re: CIA can withhold records on Oklahoma City bombing

    Quote Originally Posted by JDRock View Post
    this bullsh**t is sooo predictable.....
    Olie Dammegaard interviews Cody Snodgres about the OKC bombing and it has the ring or truth to it in my opinion. It's a good interview and is probalbly as close the the truth as you can come on this issue.

    Cody Snodgres is ignorant when it comes to who the real enemy was in WWII. AH was the good guy and knew who the real enemy of White christians was and still is.
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