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    Re: Blagojevich convicted of lying to feds

    Quote Originally Posted by osoab View Post
    I know it was an extreme example.

    So, how about the guy in Alaska that had FBI come in and take another guy with no warrant. They opened the door and they walked right in.
    This just occurred. Alexander was the guy the feds were looking for I think. Jammed their cell phones prior to the raid.
    Again, not a Blago prison event.

    As to what to do at the time of an event like this ... remember ... contract law runs through everything. Three things to ask for

    1) ask for a business card
    2) ask if they are a public employee
    3) notice them that they are going to hold them in a position as public trustee.

    Now as to them giving YOU notice ... notice is the opening salvo in due process. Notice endows you with the right to inquire. Forget staying silent. Inquiring means you ASK QUESTIONS. I have some interesting questions already lined up for the FBI concerning their involvement in a local affair a couple years back. ANYONE showing up at my door noticing me that they are FBI are going to be SHOWERED with many questions. Failure to answer any of them means due process is incomplete. You don't go to hearing until all your questions are answered. If hearing is premature the judge gets put on notice that due process has not been given, a constitutional violation under both the 14th amendment and amendment V.

    When you inquire you do not make statements. The first statement you make ("I need a cup of coffee") and your due process is complete and off to hearing you go.

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    Re: Blagojevich convicted of lying to feds

    Free at last.

    Wonder if Rod sings or does he meet an untimely demise?
    He is singing a bit in his welcome home speeches.
    “Democracy is also a form of worship. It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses. It is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”
    H.L. Mencken

    "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
    H. L. Mencken

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    Re: Blagojevich convicted of lying to feds

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    When he stood up to Bank of America, I was willing to give him every benefit of the doubt and leniency, too.

    He was arrested the day after he said the State of Illinois would no longer do business with BofA.

    I was always wondering if this (saying Illinois would no longer do business with Bank of America) was really what this was about....This whole thing seemed strange to me--all of these politicians are dirty in some way, so I always assume that the only reason any of these "scandals" become public is b/c the politician crossed a line somewhere or started to do something for the American people.

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    Re: Blagojevich convicted of lying to feds

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda View Post
    I was always wondering if this (saying Illinois would no longer do business with Bank of America) was really what this was about....This whole thing seemed strange to me--all of these politicians are dirty in some way, so I always assume that the only reason any of these "scandals" become public is b/c the politician crossed a line somewhere or started to do something for the American people.
    This sort of thing gives them an excuse to sacrifice somebody occasionally. It helps to maintain solidarity.
    " If you are on the wrong road progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road and in that case the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive man. There is nothing progressive about being pig-headed and refusing to admit a mistake. And I think if you look at the present state of the world it's pretty plain that humanity has been making some big mistake. We're on the wrong road. And if that is so we must go back. Going back is the quickest way on.” ---C. S. Lewis

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