Originally Posted by
Glass
oh yes, these girls transported from their remote towns where people fall in love and get married and have children and build a family and a home and live naeive safe content lives are just oozing to have lots of fornication in every decadant way NOT Because their pimp beats them and starves them and hooks them on the junk. Its because they want to. And they are all budhists so clearly budhism doesn't care, obviously, because after all they are all budhists. HUH?
Crazy justification but it's whats to be expected from people. THey will use what ever to justify their own morally destitute souls.
These girls are doing it for survival. Not because they want to. If they are lucky someone might pluck them from this hell hole but will their pimp just let them go? And wear the income loss? Not likely.
Umm, a request, please live in Thailand for a few months before posting uninformed statements.
IMHO can reside in Hua Hin, Chaing Mai, Isaan, Song Kla or even Bangkok it does not matter - the story is the same.
Yes, Ya Bah (meth) is a problem throughout SE Asia, but not forced on girls (unlike the US). Granted, using meth allows girls to dance on stage longer, getting more tips and more "offers" but the down side is readily visible to everyone as the drug takes it toll. (Thais still have a death penalty on drug trafficking.)
As far as commercial prostitution, the US really started it (Vietnam war), though like many Asian cultures, the females are clearly second class citizens (technically third behind the water buffalo). The girls in the western bars are thrilled to make 8,000B (~$250 US) a month (about half is sent home). The Thai brothels are far worse in rural areas (both pay scale and lack of [western] condoms).
The Thai girls in general have a 4-6th grade education, and usually, at least one child who the (Thai) father abandoned shortly after birth, and no options - unless starving on a rice paddy in Isaan counts - (per capita income is far less than $100 US per month). The bar girls are in the bars hoping to get lucky - either marry a foreigner and live in Europe/US, or at least get a few $100 US a month in subsidy. This seems to happen often enough that the girls are willing to take the chance - literally the Thai lottery.
Do they have other options? Yes - work in a factory town for $200 a month - less the mandatory room rental fees and food (oh, btw rape is both frequent and not prosecuted), stay in Isaan (and be raped by an "uncle" continually) - that is about it. No education, no skills, no options.
My experience with the bargirls is that they want nothing more than security, and preferably, a good heart (meaning they will not be physically abused by their husband). These poor girls have no good choices and very little hope of a future.
The really sad part is that Thailand is way ahead of its neighbors - Myanmar, Laos, or Cambodia (all sh*tholes).
one of the guys at the local wireless Internet cafe used to come in at 6 AM to do Skyping with his ex-wife's relatives in Thailand to try and get his wife back.
he married the daughter of a crime gang. his ex-wife's mother in law is a Madam, and a retired prostitute. we'll call him John #1.
we often use the term "whore" as a derogatory term, but i don't think it is anything to be ashamed of. as people are pointing out, these girls don't have many choices. for many, prostitution is the least unpleasant of many unpleasant choices.
anyway, John #1 is about 55 years old. his ex-wife is in her 20's. the arrangement was, he was supposed to send his ex-wife's family - specifically, her mother - about $200 a month - every month.
he got tired of sending the money. he wasn't exactly Superman - about 5'5", 200 pounds +, and we're not talking a Franco Columbo build (one of Schwarzenegger's shorter bodybuilding colleagues).
anyway, he used the wireless at the Internet cafe because they had great bandwidth at 6 AM, 10 times faster than later in the day. and since he was Skyping, and the place was very un-crowded, and John #1 was quite distraught about the loss of his wife, i learned far more than i ever expected about the Thai sex tourism industry.
basically, although John #1 could offer his wife a home in the US, and was willing to support her while she went to college, she chose to go for a younger, wealthier, fitter, new husband, in Thailand.
of course, it took John #1 a while to let go. that's where we, the other early morning customers of the Internet cafe, came in. we got to hear the whole bloody mess. it went on for weeks. then John #1 took off for Thailand.
of course, his ex-mother-in-law is one of the chieftains in a major organized crime family. and John #1 stands out like a fat white man in a land of skinny Thai people.
if he actually did venture too far into his ex-wife's village and the surrounding region, my guess is, he'll be looking to come out with one kidney intact.
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