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    Re: Supreme Court Rules: Police can search you ANYTIME, ANYPLACE, for ANY REASON

    One thing I have learned here is to find a precise meaning of words. Something I have to do regularly when reading Palani's posts:

    Definition of INSURGENT

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    : a person who revolts against civil authority or an established government; especially : a rebel not recognized as a belligerent
    From Merriam-Webster's Dictionary.

    I think Palani is suggesting we not revolt against our civil government, but to play by its rules to our advantage. And, of course, to do that, you need to know the rules.

    Perhaps the underlying assumption here is that "If you can't beat them, join them". I don't think that extends to helping them oppress others, but to just protecting yourself.


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    Re: Supreme Court Rules: Police can search you ANYTIME, ANYPLACE, for ANY REASON

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatha Sunahara View Post
    "If you can't beat them, join them".
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    Re: Supreme Court Rules: Police can search you ANYTIME, ANYPLACE, for ANY REASON

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatha Sunahara View Post
    I think Palani is suggesting we not revolt against our civil government, but to play by its rules to our advantage. And, of course, to do that, you need to know the rules.

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    Actually my reference to "insurgent" was taken from the 14th amendment. The first quote is verbatim from sec. II of that amendment. The second quote is after extra verbiage is eliminated.

    But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
    ...the right to vote at any election ... is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States,... except for participation in rebellion...
    In other words, only those willing to participate in rebellion against the organic constitution are permitted to cast ballots as citizens of the United States. Those who vote are insurgents to the principles that established the United States prior to the (un)Civil War. I didn't make this up. See if you can get your hands on a copy of The Red Amendment by L.B. Bork.

    Until this (un)Civil War gets resolved I suggest that it is best to maintain a low LAWFUL profile as an inhabitant of either an established federal territory (where Congress has ultimate authority yet rarely directs their laws at inhabitants) or as one of the several States of the union that formed the FEDERATION called The United States of America.
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    Re: Supreme Court Rules: Police can search you ANYTIME, ANYPLACE, for ANY REASON

    What a bunch of shit.

    Here we have members that have gotten ticketed for walking and and talking on a cel phone, and they are to blame?

    So Palani, when they make a law against breathing, are you going to stop?
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    Re: Supreme Court Rules: Police can search you ANYTIME, ANYPLACE, for ANY REASON

    Quote Originally Posted by Awoke View Post
    Here we have members that have gotten ticketed for walking and and talking on a cel phone, and they are to blame?
    You deviate from fact to attend argument. There has been no evidence of any of this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awoke View Post
    So Palani, when they make a law against breathing, are you going to stop?
    If they could pass such a law would it be consonant with Reason? Wouldn't a court of first impression have to consider such a law first?
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    Re: Supreme Court Rules: Police can search you ANYTIME, ANYPLACE, for ANY REASON

    Quote Originally Posted by Awoke View Post
    What a bunch of shit.

    Here we have members that have gotten ticketed for walking and and talking on a cel phone, and they are to blame?

    So Palani, when they make a law against breathing, are you going to stop?
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