Thanks for the OP Pat, I will definitely look at this. A lot of your posts on here regarding The Roman Catholic Church are beyond baloney, crazy and inflamatory, we have discussed translations on here numerous times with exact names of works and their history, people like you are not students and do not care to learn, you have some sort of agenda on here. I'm done repeating myself, in general, trolls on here will just repeat nonsense without learning and studying, don't care to learn, real sources, issues. In the 2 plus years we have been here with noobs and known people going back to GIM this is more apparent as each day passes. Someone on here will tell me I am religious or a Christian posting about historical aspects, about translations, history, how it works, others on here will do the exact opposite and say, " you are not a Christian ", I am not in the middle of these two comments coming from different sides. People study the OT for historical purposes, not just religious, and I am no fan of the OT, the NT, that is where Christianity comes from, these bible thumping OTers lose me totally, you never see them outing the Jews for one, they seem to hate Europeans, European History, and do a good job of making Christians look bad, they play the role of dividers real good, ignore much of the related history I posted on here, deliberately clueless, they play dividers, many " protestants" play this role it seems, Anty Ep years ago was right about this, how Jews promoted it as division in Europe, exacerbating divisions, I always thought the Reformation/CounterR were good things, how did it work out for England and that base used against the rest of us, Cromwell history ? , Anty Ep was the giant of GIM, put us on to much of this hidden history. I count 5 trolls above on this issue regarding Christianity, OT, translations, maybe you can find my posts going back to translations, history of OT, and a more recent thread where we did it again, Awoke was involved and JohnQ, recently I got a couple of OT's, Awoke and I were in PM discussing this and sharing, buying books, links , etc, without speaking to line by line details of translations, translations have numerous issues, just reading classics you understand this clearly, this is always an issue, and discussed regularly, why would it be different for any work, the KJV has the most serious even though it's language is more poetic than some " more accurate translations " , here is what I am talking about, take the most original, invent a new " hebrew" language, Invent, yes, translate to that, nobody read or spoke "hebrew" it was a dead and lost language, think about that one, at about the same time the Kaballah and Talmud were written down, it's all Rabbi's, then from that OT in the new invented language, translate to older English, meanwhile the most original transcripts that went to " hebrew " exist, the main point of the exercise for me is to see what has changed where it is important, seeing the Jews have an agenda for us, this task is tuff for just a casual reader, you need direction, hence good OP and why we need someone like MJK on here. " White Nationalists " have been looking at this for years. I started this study on their forums. Ask anyone here to give you a history of the OT, and they will not do it, they don't care to know it, only Magnes has ever given it to you, why, because it pisses everyone off except the students of history, the Jews, the Christians, the OT thumpers especially, the Europeans even who don't like Christians like many Nordics. Jews actively lie about how the OT was created, mostly by omission, lead people to make assumptions, that is what I find the most interesting, they hate the Greeks and the Ptolemies and target them, posters on here do the same. This post is messed up and I banged it off quickly. Here's a simple exercise, go to amazon and look up OT's and NT's and the different versions, translations, have a look at the related books, read posts on amazon, I guarantee you that you will learn a lot just by doing this exercise, example, book " Learning NT Greek ", and that is the NT, one of the least problematic for translations relative to the OT and KJV. Be as student and do not rely on peoples posts on here. Your comments are very general, I have related comments above, and in the past more detail a few times. About stories, different people live in the same region and suffer the same events, they record them, it does not mean that they are ripping each other off, but I believe that is the case in some instances, depends on the story. People back then were more advanced than we give them credit for, they knew of each other and traded with each other and spoke each others languages to be able to travel and trade the way they did, 1200 BC there was advanced trade in the Med/BlackSea, the Iliad is about this, civil war, control of the seas and trade, an earth changing event recorded by everyone triggers this, Philistines are involved, OT " Jews " record how they wanted to ripp off the Philistines, same time period, Ptolemies saw the original version of the OT as the " Jews " History/Mythology/Beliefs 300BC.