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    How Silver Turns People Blue

    How Silver Turns People Blue
    ScienceDaily (Oct. 29, 2012) — Ingesting silver -- in antimicrobial health tonics or for extensive medical treatments involving silver -- can cause argyria, condition in which the skin turns grayish-blue. Brown researchers have discovered how that happens. The process is similar to developing black-and-white photographs, and it's not just the silver.

    Researchers from Brown University have shown for the first time how ingesting too much silver can cause argyria, a rare condition in which patients' skin turns a striking shade of grayish blue.

    "It's the first conceptual model giving the whole picture of how one develops this condition," said Robert Hurt, professor of engineering at Brown and part of the research team. "What's interesting here is that the particles someone ingests aren't the particles that ultimately cause the disorder."

    Scientists have known for years argyria had something to do with silver. The condition has been documented in people who (ill advisedly) drink antimicrobial health tonics containing silver nanoparticles and in people who have had extensive medical treatments involving silver. Tissue samples from patients showed silver particles actually lodged deep in the skin, but it wasn't clear how they got there.

    As it turns out, argyria is caused by a complex series of chemical reactions, Hurt said. His paper on the subject, authored with Brown colleagues Jingyu Liu, Zhongying Wang, Frances Liu, and Agnes Kane, is published in the journal ACS Nano.

    "The particles someone ingests aren't the particles that ultimately cause the disorder."Hurt and his team show that nanosilver is broken down in the stomach, absorbed into the bloodstream as a salt and finally deposited in the skin, where exposure to light turns the salt back into elemental silver and creates the telltale bluish hue. That final stage, oddly, involves the same photochemical reaction used to develop black-and-white photographs.

    From silver to salt and back again

    Hurt and his team have been studying the environmental impact of silver, specifically silver nanoparticles, for years. They've found that nanosilver tends to corrode in acidic environments, giving off charged ions -- silver salts -- that can be toxic in large amounts. Hurt's graduate student, Jingyu Liu (now a postdoctoral fellow at the National Institute of Standards and Technology), thought those same toxic ions might also be produced when silver enters the body, and could play a role in argyria.

    To find out, the researchers mixed a series chemical treatments that could simulate what might happen to silver inside the body. One treatment simulated the acidic environment in the gastrointestinal tract; one mimicked the protein content of the bloodstream; and a collagen gel replicated the base membranes of the skin.

    They found that nanosilver corrodes in stomach acid in much the same way it does in other acidic environments. Corrosion strips silver atoms of electrons, forming positively charged silver salt ions. Those ions can easily be taken into the bloodstream through channels that absorb other types of salt. That's a crucial step, Hurt said. Silver metal particles themselves aren't terribly likely to make it from the GI tract to the blood, but when they're transformed into a salt, they're ushered right through.

    From there, Hurt and his team showed that silver ions bind easily with sulfur present in blood proteins, which would give them a free ride through the bloodstream. Some of those ions would eventually end up in the skin, where they'd be exposed to light.

    To re-create this end stage, the researchers shined ultraviolet light on collagen gel containing silver ions. The light caused electrons from the surrounding materials to jump onto the unstable ions, returning them to their original state -- elemental silver. This final reaction is ultimately what turns patients' skin blue. The photoreaction is similar to the way silver is used in black and white photography. When exposed to light, silver salts on a photographic film reduce to elemental silver and darken, creating an image.

    Implications for nanosilver

    Despite its potential toxicity, silver has been valued for centuries for its ability to kill germs, which is why silver nanoparticles are used today in everything from food packaging to bandages. There are concerns however that this nanoparticle form of silver might pose a unique health threat all its own.

    This research, however, "would be one piece of evidence that you could treat nanoparticles in the same way as other forms of silver," Hurt says.

    That's because the bioavailable form of silver -- the form that is absorbed into the bloodstream -- is the silver salt that's made in the stomach. Any elemental silver that's ingested is just the raw material to make that bioavailable salt. So ingesting silver in any form, be it nano or not, would have basically the same effect, Hurt said.

    "The concern in this case is the total dose of silver, not what form it's in," Hurt said. "This study implies that silver nanoparticles will be less toxic than an equivalent amount of silver salt, at least in this exposure scenario."

    The National Science Foundation and the Superfund Research Program of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences funded the research.

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    Re: How Silver Turns People Blue

    Lots of people bring up "The Blue Man" when discussing colloidal silver.



    The blue man did not ingest colloidal silver. He developed argyria because he made silver chloride. It's different. I'll explain how.


    The blue man added salt to his CS brew because "someone told him it would make it better."

    Salt is NaCl, or sodium chloride. The NA and CL are attached by an electric bond. The electricity in the colloidal silver recipe undid this bond. The chloride became free from the sodium. The chloride bonded with the silver. The blue man ingested SILVER CHLORIDE because he FAILED to follow the exact recipe.

    He NEVER INGESTED COLLOIDAL SILVER because he never made colloidal silver. He made silver chloride.


    On top of that, he ingested several liters per day.


    On top of THAT, he put his incorrectly made silver chloride on his skin and then got into a TANNING BED to fix it to his skin.



    There isn't a documented case of correctly made colloidal silver giving someone argyria that I am currently aware of.


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    Re: How Silver Turns People Blue

    Off to find me a Smurf village to melt down... should be worth a few hundred ounces anyway!
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    Re: How Silver Turns People Blue

    That's why they were called "Royal Blue Blooded"......in the old days royalty used to drink only fro silver cups in order to kill germs and poison.......they didn't know about germs but they knew that those drinking from silver cups used to get less sicker.
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    Re: How Silver Turns People Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by Ponce View Post
    That's why they were called "Royal Blue Blooded"......in the old days royalty used to drink only fro silver cups in order to kill germs and poison.......they didn't know about germs but they knew that those drinking from silver cups used to get less sicker.
    Good point. Same as the old saying "born with a silver spoon in his mouth." The wealthy ate off of actual silverware not because it was pretty but because of the health benefits.

    Also, people would put a silver dollar in the bottom of their milk bottle to prevent spoiling.

    If there was really an issue with CS, you would see hundreds of documented cases. Millions of people use this stuff all over the world. They choose to promote the one man who fuct himself up because they need to demonize the miracle water you can make at home so they can perpetuate the prescription drug scam.
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    Re: How Silver Turns People Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNocturnalEgyptian View Post
    Lots of people bring up "The Blue Man" when discussing colloidal silver.



    The blue man did not ingest colloidal silver. He developed argyria because he made silver chloride. It's different. I'll explain how.


    The blue man added salt to his CS brew because "someone told him it would make it better."

    Salt is NaCl, or sodium chloride. The NA and CL are attached by an electric bond. The electricity in the colloidal silver recipe undid this bond. The chloride became free from the sodium. The chloride bonded with the silver. The blue man ingested SILVER CHLORIDE because he FAILED to follow the exact recipe.

    He NEVER INGESTED COLLOIDAL SILVER because he never made colloidal silver. He made silver chloride.


    On top of that, he ingested several liters per day.


    On top of THAT, he put his incorrectly made silver chloride on his skin and then got into a TANNING BED to fix it to his skin.



    There isn't a documented case of correctly made colloidal silver giving someone argyria that I am currently aware of.


    Science. It works.

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    Of course I saw this man before from old GIM, but reading this really made me laugh. I don't think anyone who intentionally wanted to have blue skin could have done it better than him. Anyway he is a healthy blue man. LOL!

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    Re: How Silver Turns People Blue

    Be interesting to see if aside from the blue-ness if this guy has any other health problems. He is older than most, unless his hair turned white very early.

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    Re: How Silver Turns People Blue

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNocturnalEgyptian View Post
    He looks happy though! He could own the smurf Santa market if he wanted to.
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    Re: How Silver Turns People Blue

    Jew source Science daily makes a big issue out of the remotest of side effects from colloidal silver yet remains silent on the many (and much worse) side effects from taking Jew pharma medications.

    This is a fine example of how the media takes advantage of peoples lack of sense of proportion.

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