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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

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    I was disappointed with this latest TUT show- host Hesham Tallawi, guests M.C.Piper & Mark Glenn. The 3 of them criticize S.Hook skepticism, esp among those who are familiar names for their 911 Truth work... coz the ZSM will conflate all the "crazies" together. You have to hear it, their logic didn't really work for me. S.H. is "the 9/11 of gun control", with disarming Americans the obvious driving agenda. Disarming populations always precedes democide. James Fetzer calls in and spends about 1/2 the show with them, defending S.Hook skepticism. 47 mins, 11 MBs.

    Current Issues with Hesham Tillawi Jan 13, 2013


    The kookery of the various Sandy Hook conspiracy theories and how it is being exploited by the JMSM to label all ‘truthers’ as crazies. Great interview with Hesham Tillawi, Michael Collins Piper and Mark Glenn.

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    edit- been reading the comments on this Tillawi show, both at grizzom
    http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/01/...llawi-jan.html
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    http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/20...i-jan-13-2013/

    happy to see majority opinion at both sites is not falling in line with the Tillawi/Glenn/Piper view. here's one @ TUT (where we'd expect a more biased, TUT supportive readership), if you read the others you'll find this is representative,
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    again from Dr. Tracy:

    February 21, 2013
    Unanswered Questions From Europe 16


    This letter was received from a reader in central Europe and relates provocative insights on Sandy Hook, particularly with the backdrop of several new PBS-sponsored “documentaries” addressing the incident. The text is reproduced in its entirety below with minor editing. The name and other identifying information of the writer have been withheld to preserve their anonymity.

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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    I wonder for the open casket funerals, could they have used wax dummies instead of a body?

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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Newtown seeks to deny newspapers access to death certificates

    http://digitaljournal.com/article/343981


    Makes you wonder if there really are any death certificates.



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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Quote Originally Posted by PatColo View Post
    again from Dr. Tracy:

    February 21, 2013
    Unanswered Questions From Europe 16


    This letter was received from a reader in central Europe and relates provocative insights on Sandy Hook, particularly with the backdrop of several new PBS-sponsored “documentaries” addressing the incident. The text is reproduced in its entirety below with minor editing. The name and other identifying information of the writer have been withheld to preserve their anonymity.

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    There are some brilliant observations in that letter. In fact, we have no direct evidence or proof of a mass shooting at Sandy Hook. Everyone who believes it is basing it entirely on faith in the veracity of the MSM reporting it. None of the videos or interviews broadcast constitute direct proof or eyewitness-level evidence of a mass shooting. No objective person can deny that at a bare minimum, we do not know what if anything happened at Sandy Hook.
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

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    Newtown seeks to deny newspapers access to death certificates


    http://digitaljournal.com/article/343981


    Makes you wonder if there really are any death certificates.



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    That would be an excellent reason for the authorities trying to wiggle out of giving death certificates. I think the reason given "not to cause further harm to the victims (the dead children)", is a particularly weak excuse...

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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

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    That would be an excellent reason for the authorities trying to wiggle out of giving death certificates. I think the reason given "not to cause further harm to the victims (the dead children)", is a particularly weak excuse...
    I had always assumed that a death certificate was a public record. Why should a death certificate need privacy?
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Quote Originally Posted by mamboni View Post
    I had always assumed that a death certificate was a public record. Why should a death certificate need privacy?
    Certainly I can't see a need for a death certificate that is only accessible to the close family. They would know with certainty whether the person was dead or not anyway. In this particular case I can only see that either there are no death certificates, or that they are trying to protect the parent actors...

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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

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    Newtown seeks to deny newspapers access to death certificates


    http://digitaljournal.com/article/343981


    Makes you wonder if there really are any death certificates.



    Hatha
    [...] Death certificates are part of vital public records, which also include birth and marriage certificates. They are public domain documents used, ultimately, to determine official recognition of presence or past presence in civil society. They also serve as a mechanism for upholding the integrity of information in which there is a public interest, as it relates to voting, citizenship, and receiving public benefits. Abuses of voting processes involving voters who, unbeknownst to the public, are actually dead, are legendary. [...]
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    also from Tracy,

    February 23, 2013
    PBS Defies Basic Journalistic Standards to Push Sandy Hook Official Narrative 34

    Home • Tags: journalism, propaganda, Public Opinion, Sandy Hook Elementary
    This past week the Public Broadcasting Service presented its viewership with a flurry of reportage and commentary on the Newtown tragedy, taking special care to closely associate the incident with the issues of gun control, mental health, and school safety. Specific programs have included Washington Week, PBS NewsHour, NOVA, and FRONTLINE. This degree of coverage from an outlet with significant credibility among the educated professional class is especially unusual.
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