A site that actually has ammo!!!!!

[Ares]

A buddy I work with was just allowed to buy some guns (wife was anti-gun for a LONG time). The Sandy Hook incident and the politicians response is what convinced her to let her husband buy some guns. She's a teacher by the way.

Anyway he came across a site that has ammo in stock and they have nothing on back order. Goes against their policy. So if it's listed on the site they have it in stock and ready to ship.

www.luckygunner.com

I just ordered 250 rounds for the glock as I was running low on some carry ammo.

Awesome site so wanted to pass it along to my friends here.

[midnight rambler]

I just took a look, and just like almost everyone else they are out of stock (or extremely thin) on the most popular calibers. Plus they are higher priced than most.

Always good to have alternatives though.

[Ares]

I just took a look, and just like almost everyone else they are out of stock (or extremely thin) on the most popular calibers. Plus they are higher priced than most.

Always good to have alternatives though.

Supply and Demand dictates price these guys are cheaper than the range I go too even factoring in shipping. Hopefully this gun control debate is a non-starter and prices for popular calibers / guns will go down. But until then probably not. I've got plenty for my AR, and Siaga 12, but I like to practice with the hand guns often (try to hit the range 2 times a week) so was getting low. Also need to cycle through some of my hollow points as most are over 3 years old. I try not to keep em longer than 2 years.

Anyone know the "shelf life" is on ammo kept in a cool dry place?

[Son-of-Liberty]

Anyone know the "shelf life" is on ammo kept in a cool dry place?

A long time.

I came into some 22LR and 12 gauge bird shot awhile ago that is at least 20 years old. The 12 gauge shells are waxed paper instead of plastic. Both still work good no malfunctions.

[Ares]

Thanks, I would think it would be just as good if not better with brass casings. I'll hold off on cycling the hollow points through and leave them in storage for a while longer.

[midnight rambler]

I've got some .45 ACP ball ammo in Winchester brown box (SE Asia war games bring back) that's probably 45 years old. Works just fine.

[gunDriller]

i asked a San Diego County sheriff at the Internet cafe about his gun.

i told him i had read that 60% of police carry 9 mm. he said they are using .40 caliber because 9 mm was too small.

i wisely avoided the subject of Dorner.

not to hijack the thread or anything.

[midnight rambler]

he said they are using .40 caliber because 9 mm was too small.

Texas DPS exclusively issues Sig DAO .357 Sig pistols to DPS Troopers.

9mm = .35 caliber

Before jacketed hollow points were developed to the point they are now, 9mm was in fact 'too small' when FMJ was used - now 9mm is very effective when something like Speer Gold Dot HP or Winchester Ranger T series (Talon w/o the coating) is is the load. I bet you that the deputy you talked to had some LE hollow point load like GDHP or Ranger T series loaded in his service pistol.

I have Glocks in both .40 and .357 Sig since all it takes to change calibers is a quick barrel swap. Other brands of pistols can be swapped out likewise. While .40 is more common, I'm kinda fond of the .357 Sig when using Speer GDHP. FMJ or TMJ - forget it in the .357 Sig, over-penetration is an issue.

[gunDriller]

Texas DPS exclusively issues Sig DAO .357 Sig pistols to DPS Troopers.

9mm = .35 caliber

Before jacketed hollow points were developed to the point they are now, 9mm was in fact 'too small' when FMJ was used - now 9mm is very effective when something like Speer Gold Dot HP or Winchester Ranger T series (Talon w/o the coating) is is the load. I bet you that the deputy you talked to had some LE hollow point load like GDHP or Ranger T series loaded in his service pistol.

I have Glocks in both .40 and .357 Sig since all it takes to change calibers is a quick barrel swap. Other brands of pistols can be swapped out likewise. While .40 is more common, I'm kinda fond of the .357 Sig when using Speer GDHP. FMJ or TMJ - forget it in the .357 Sig, over-penetration is an issue.

i also asked him if there was a 9 mm equivalent of the .357 Magnum. e.g. 38 special is 80% the size of 357 Magnum, but has only half the velocity, indicating a different mix of gunpowder, since they're both spec'ed at .379 diameter.

said he didn't know.

[midnight rambler]

said he didn't know.

Most LEOs are pretty fucking stupid, which is why they're LEOs.

they're both spec'ed at .379 diameter

You're thinking of the case diameter. Both .38 Special and .357 magnum projectiles are 0.357"; 9mm projectiles are 0.355". This is why most folks refer to all three as '35 caliber'. The root of this goes back to blackpowder pistols which were commonly 0.36 caliber (as well as .44 caliber being common, just a larger frame gun, .36 caliber guns were more easily concealed).