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    Re: Edward Snowden - Internal Whistleblower Behind NSA Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnQPublic View Post
    Good points. I am still waiting for some significant information from Snowden. He did get things in a roil, but really nothing new other than maybe some specific names of programs.
    I would like to hear some phone calls. Some calls between Bush Senior, Junior, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Blair, Wolfawitz, Rice, Powell and that little piggy faced guy in the glasses.... any of these guys in phone calls either talking about how they put out a contract on so and so whistleblower or how they fabricated the evidence leading to GWII.

    This is how I see Prism being of use to the people. IF it hoovers up everything then those things will be in there as well. There should even be the ability to link all of the 911 players during their conspiracy planning.

    Lets hear some of those please.
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    Re: Edward Snowden - Internal Whistleblower Behind NSA Leaks

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    and that little piggy faced guy in the glasses....
    Napolitano?

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    Re: Edward Snowden - Internal Whistleblower Behind NSA Leaks

    FISA Talking Points


    FISA/NSA Talking Points

    o The news articles have been discussing what purports to be a classified, lawfully-authorized order that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA Court) issued under an Act of Congress - the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). Under this Act, the FISA Court authorized a collection of business records. There is no secret program involved here - it is strictly authorized by a U.S. statute.

    o The FISA Court's order for a lawfully-authorized collection of business records does not allow the Government to listen in on anyone's telephone calls. It does not authorize the collection of any call content, individual names, or organization names. It authorizes only metadata collection, which includes barebones records - such as a telephone number or the length of a call.

    o This legal tool, as enacted by Congress, has been critical in protecting America. It has been essential in thwarting at least one major terrorist attack to our country in the past few years.

    o This legal tool also allows our counterterrorism and law enforcement officials to close the gap on foreign and domestic terrorist activities. It enables our Intelligence Community to discover whether foreign terrorists have been in contact with other persons who may be engaged in terrorist activities, particularly people located inside the United States.

    o Despite what appears to be a broad scope in the FISA Court's order, the Intelligence Community uses only a small fraction of a percent of the business records collected to pursue terrorism subjects.

    o All three branches - Congress, the Courts, and the Executive Branch - review and sign off on FISA collection authorities. Congress passed FISA, and the Intelligence Committees are regularly and fully briefed on how it is used.

    o The FISA Court authorizes intelligence collection only after the Intelligence Community has proven its case, based on underlying facts and investigations.

    o This legal tool has been reauthorized only after ongoing 90-day renewal periods. That means that every 90 days, the Department of Justice and the FBI must prove to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that they have the facts and legal basis to renew this legal authority. It is not a rubber stamp.

    o FISA-authorized collections are subject to strict controls and procedures under oversight of the Department of Justice, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the FISA Court, to ensure that they comply with the Constitution and laws of the United States and appropriately protect privacy and civil liberties.

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    Re: Edward Snowden - Internal Whistleblower Behind NSA Leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Cebu_4_2 View Post
    Napolitano?


    No I think it was Libby?
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    Re: Edward Snowden - Internal Whistleblower Behind NSA Leaks

    Hidden in Plain Sight-The Politics of Misdirection

    "This latest transparent machination concerning the sudden media exposé revelations of NSA data mining with the active cooperation of Internet and TeleCommunications industries is simply another case of classic misdirection. The establishment of the NSA mega facility in Bluffdale, Utah ensures that despite the attempts to suggest otherwise, Big Brother tracks anything and everything in the USSA and will continue to do so indefinitely. And that is not to speak of ECHELON the original super computerized signals intelligence tracking unit. In other words the intensive monitoring of of all digital and internet surveillance has been common knowledge for years. Likewise, the subornation and infiltration of print and wire service media has been going on for decades by the CIA. The fact that the major mainstream media news outlets are not only owned by major corporations but that the press and TV are nothing more than the mouthpieces of statist propaganda is once again, common knowledge. In other words, the latest scandals are very old news to anyone with half a brain left. Likewise, the gun walking expeditions across the Mexican border dubbed "Fast and Furious", as if it was all some Hollywood thriller, which has some calling for the resignation of the attorney general, is but the tip of the iceberg of a long established government policy of drug running and arms transshipments going back to the Clinton administration in Mena, Arkansas and further to the Iran Contra scandals of the Reagan regime. The same holds for the arming of the band of Al-CIAda terrorists gangs of the so-called Free Syrian Army via Libya and Turkey. And why is it a surprise to anyone that the criminal enforcement arm of the Federal Reserve, the dreaded IRS, singles out political opposition groups and activists for "special treatment"? Has it something to do with the critical role the IRS plays in the enforcement of Obamacare, soon to be dropped on the unsuspecting dupes of AmerCIA like a ton of bricks. Isn't this entire corrupt matrix of control based on intimidation and fear? C'mon let's get real! The point is that the media follows an agenda dictated to it by its corporate and government (read fascist) masters and the mesmerized, hypnotized, flouridated, chemtrailed, and brainwashed minions of the AMeriatrix only regurgitate the mental pablum force fed to their Alpha wave resonating zombified brains through their television screens. The question remains though. Why are the puppet masters pulling the strings on the Obama marionette tripping him up on the devil's dance floor which is the MSM? We think that with the wheels coming off the American economy as is already happening in the Japanese bond and stock markets, that something very big is afoot indeed. The puppet's strings have become hopelessly entangled, his programming is shot and the stage is being cleared for the debut of the next act which will inexorably lead to the final denouément of this American nightmare.

    Then again things aren't going so well in Syria which is proving an unexpectedly tough nut to crack. The Al-CIAda thug army is hopelessly splintered and on the verge of defeat. Assad seems to be in control, and as the fighting continues to spread across the borders into Lebanon, Turkey, and Jordan, US marines are being posted a the Jordanian border and Russia begins delivering the dreaded S-300 missile defense system. By the time WW III breaks out, we might see the martial law crackdown we've been expecting for so long and Barry Soetero Obama or whoever he is will return to Punaho and soon be teeing it up on Maui possibly unaware that he was ever the president of the former United States of America.

    The putative president's performance in the following video might lead one to question not his competence but his basic sanity as well. Not only does he bumble and stumble across his words with an alarming incoherence but the very substance of his attempt at speaking speaks once again of some elemental cognitive dissonance at avery deep level. We will leave the discerning reader to decide for himself."

    the vid: http://kushmonster.blogspot.com/2013...litics-of.html
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    Re: Edward Snowden - Internal Whistleblower Behind NSA Leaks

    Julian Assange hints WikiLeaks might publish next Edward Snowden revelations

    "WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said Wednesday his organization is helping Edward Snowden seek asylum in Iceland. Assange also hinted that he might publish Snowden's next revelations."

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    Re: Edward Snowden - Internal Whistleblower Behind NSA Leaks

    3 Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

    "...Thomas Drake, William Binney, and J. Kirk Wiebe each protested the NSA in their own rights. "For years, the three whistle-blowers had told anyone who would listen that the NSA collects huge swaths of communications data from U.S. citizens," the newspaper reports. "They had spent decades in the top ranks of the agency, designing and managing the very data collection systems they say have been turned against Americans. When they became convinced that fundamental constitutional rights were being violated, they complained first to their superiors, then to federal investigators, congressional oversight committees and, finally, to the news media."


    In other words, they blew the whistle in the way Snowden's critics suggest he should have done. Their method didn't get through to the members of Congress who are saying, in the wake of the Snowden leak, that they had no idea what was going on. But they are nonetheless owed thanks..."


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    • His disclosures did not cause grave damage to national security.


    • What Snowden discovered is "material evidence of an institutional crime."


    • As a system administrator, Snowden "could go on the network or go into any file or any system and change it or add to it or whatever, just to make sure -- because he would be responsible to get it back up and running if, in fact, it failed. So that meant he had access to go in and put anything. That's why he said, I think, 'I can even target the president or a judge.' If he knew their phone numbers or attributes, he could insert them into the target list which would be distributed worldwide. And then it would be collected, yeah, that's right. As a super-user, he could do that."


    • "The idea that we have robust checks and balances on this is a myth."


    • Congressional overseers "have no real way of seeing into what these agencies are doing. They are totally dependent on the agencies briefing them on programs, telling them what they are doing."


    • Lawmakers "don't really don't understand what the NSA does and how it operates. Even when they get briefings, they still don't understand."


    • Asked what Edward Snowden should expect to happen to him, one of the men, William Binney, answered, "first tortured, then maybe even rendered and tortured and then incarcerated and then tried and incarcerated or even executed." Interesting that this is what a whistleblower thinks the U.S. government will do to a citizen. The abuse of Bradley Manning worked.


    • "There is no path for intelligence-community whistle-blowers who know wrong is being done. There is none. It's a toss of the coin, and the odds are you are going to be hammered." ..."

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    Re: Edward Snowden - Internal Whistleblower Behind NSA Leaks

    Uk To Brit Hacks: Shut Up
    Defence Ministry Warns Against Leaks on Joint US-Brit Spying

    A British Defense Ministry press advisory committee, reacting to a flurry of revelations in the American press about massive warrantless US government electronic surveillance programs, quietly warned UK organizations Friday not to publish British national security information.

    Defiance of the advisory could make British journalists vulnerable to prosecution under the Official Secrets Act.

    The June 7 "DA-Notice," or Defence Advisory Notice, which was itself confidential, accepted that the U.S. National Security Agency was sharing information gleaned from the surveillance programs with its British counterparts, and said UK intelligence organizations were worried about revelations of their own roles in the programs.

    "There have been a number of articles recently in connection with some of the ways in which the UK Intelligence Services obtain information from foreign sources," said the notice issued by the Defence Advisory Committee, a joint body with media organizations.

    "Although none of these recent articles has contravened any of the guidelines contained within the Defence Advisory Notice System, the intelligence services are concerned that further developments of this same theme may begin to jeopardize both national security and possibly UK personnel," it said.

    The notice itself was marked "Private and Confidential: Not for publication, broadcast or use on social media."

    It warned British media not to publish information on "specific covert operations, sources and methods of the security services, SIS and GCHQ [the NSA's British counterpart], Defence Intelligence Units, Special Forces and those involved with them, the application of those methods, including the interception of communications and their targets; the same applies to those engaged on counter-terrorist operations."

    British news organizations are concerned about the tenor of the advance warning.

    "They're sending out a notice saying nothing'

    Warning follows exposé of UK cooperation in massive warrantless US government electronic spying
    s been published that damages national security but we're concerned the press might (and on the back of developments in the US, no less)," said a media source.

    The worry is that British authorities may be preparing to pursue reporters through the courts if they publish details on UK participation in the massive US electronic surveillance programs, code-named "PRISM" and "BLARNEY," according to a report in The Washington Post.

    The NSA collects "directly from the servers of these U.S. Service Providers: Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, Apple," the Post reported.

    According to the Guardian newspaper, the NSA has been sharing intelligence from the same internet companies with GCHQ.

    President Obama on Friday defended the spying programs, which access every Americans' email and Internet searches, saying "a whole bunch of safeguards [are] involved" to protect privacy.

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    Re: Edward Snowden - Internal Whistleblower Behind NSA Leaks

    Icelandic businessman says plane ready to take Snowden to Iceland


    "...An Icelandic businessman linked to WikiLeaks said he has readied a private plane to take Edward Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor who exposed secret U.S. surveillance programmes, to Iceland if the government grants him asylum.

    "We have made everything ready at our end now we only have to wait for confirmation from the (Icelandic) Interior Ministry," Olafur Vignir Sigurvinsson told Reuters. He is a director of DataCell, a company which processed payments for WikiLeaks.

    "A private jet is in place in China and we could fly Snowden over tomorrow if we get positive reaction from the Interior Ministry. We need to get confirmation of asylum and that he will not be extradited to the U.S. We would most want him to get a citizenship as well," Sigurvinsson said.

    Neither a WikiLeaks spokesman nor the Icelandic government were immediately available for comment..."

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    Re: Edward Snowden - Internal Whistleblower Behind NSA Leaks

    Lame excuse. Not even worth publishing except to document it.

    Watchdog faults background check of NSA leaker


    "...Appearing at a Senate hearing, Patrick McFarland, the U.S. Office of Personnel Management's inspector general, said USIS, the company that conducted the background investigation of former NSA systems analyst Edward Snowden, is now under investigation itself.

    McFarland declined to say what triggered the inquiry of USIS or whether the probe is related to Snowden. But when asked by Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., if there were any concerns about the USIS background check on Snowden, McFarland answered: "Yes, we do believe that there may be some problems."..."

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