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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Quote Originally Posted by zap View Post
    In another post I talked about our premiums, I am paying 1460.00 a month for 80/20 Max out of pocket a year 6000 including deductible of 750.00, this is for 2 people and knothead is on mine ( 3 people ). October is our renewal month and it was going to be $1560.00 a month ! so I cut it down to 840.00 with a 2000 deductible, total Out of pocket 6000, with a 70/20. I have to pay this premium every month even when we aren't working! I paid the 1460 for 10 months when we weren't working, it is just ridiculous, It might do me good to get rid of the company insurance and both of us go on Obama care prolly be cheaper ? But see therein lye's the problem nobody, Dr's want to accept or participate in obamacare, 2 hospitals in our area aren't in the plan. By the way I am 46 , worker is 35 , my dependent is 8 no health problems for any of us, IE High BP, diabetes,no chronic health issues.

    What the Hell!!!
    My God! You could stop spending that and get Obamacare!

    Really Kidding. Stop paying for all that shit and bank it for a couple years. 17,520 for insurance? man........

    Keep emergency coverage for the younguns. BANK that BITCH and live on.

    I could live large on just that right now.

    How times have changed.
    Jackie did it and you know it!

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Many Americans will find themselves not only with a policy they can’t afford, but also with one they cannot afford to use.
    This is why I say NO.
    By way of decoction, thou shalt do wort.

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Ok I don't understand either post? Don't crawl into bed with uncle sam? ok ..... don't carry health insurance? Carry it ,or all your property ( mostly property cause they don't know about the savings?) and savings will be taken once you can't pay the hospital?

    Jew - there is alot of money if you are a Dr?

    We carried health insurance a group policy IE a group of 2 me and him because I couldn't get insurance for him cause he had , had a heart attack.
    The harder I work, the Luckier I get!

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Quote Originally Posted by Jewboo View Post
    oh. kinda obvious now why Doctor Mamboni has been posting all these anti-Obamacare threads...lol.
    Shut the fuck up, troll.

    TOTALLY uncalled for.

    You should have quit while you were ahead, BOOK.
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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Quote Originally Posted by zap View Post
    In another post I talked about our premiums, I am paying 1460.00 a month for 80/20 Max out of pocket a year 6000 including deductible of 750.00, this is for 2 people and knothead is on mine ( 3 people ). October is our renewal month and it was going to be $1560.00 a month ! so I cut it down to 840.00 with a 2000 deductible, total Out of pocket 6000, with a 70/20. I have to pay this premium every month even when we aren't working! I paid the 1460 for 10 months when we weren't working, it is just ridiculous, It might do me good to get rid of the company insurance and both of us go on Obama care prolly be cheaper ? But see therein lye's the problem nobody, Dr's want to accept or participate in obamacare, 2 hospitals in our area aren't in the plan. By the way I am 46 , worker is 35 , my dependent is 8 no health problems for any of us, IE High BP, diabetes,no chronic health issues.

    What the Hell!!!
    You're not alone. Check out the comments at this link:

    http://blogs.kqed.org/stateofhealth/...iums-going-up/

    In short, if you make more than $60,000 per year gross income you have just been royally hosed. Obamacare is a gigantic tax increase, pure and simple. And ACO is a euphemism for rationed care/capitated expenditures. Trust me when I tell you that good care generally does not save money. ACOs will incentivize doctors and hospitals to avoid the truly sick patients and to reduce their practice volumes. There is no incentive to work more, only less. I am going to look into hiring a part-time MD and cut back to maybe 2/3 part time. I am fucking tired of breaking my ass only to hand it over to these money-grubbing scumbags in Washington. Believe me, a lot of docs are going to quit or go to part time to earn just enough to cover expenses.
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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Quote Originally Posted by Cebu_4_2 View Post
    My God! You could stop spending that and get Obamacare!

    Really Kidding. Stop paying for all that shit and bank it for a couple years. 17,520 for insurance? man........

    Keep emergency coverage for the younguns. BANK that BITCH and live on.

    I could live large on just that right now.

    How times have changed.
    That's the whole point of Obamacare, to trap all the folk working for cash and off the books who are smart enough to not buy insurance. Now, if you file a tax return, you have to buy it, and pay through the nose. The only people who will go unharmed by this are folk who live completely off the books and do not file. I expect that there may be lots more of them going forward.
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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Quote Originally Posted by Cebu_4_2 View Post

    Whatever Manboni posts is propaganda, he is a plant.

    LOOK AT OUR DEATH RATES FROM HOSPITAL FUCKUPS WITH THE CURRENT PRE-OBAMACARE SYSTEM

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Ok ,well thanks for the help ( rolly eyes here)

    Still don't know what I should do, don't get in bed with the government ok, Keep paying blue shield for crappy Ins?

    I am thick I need it spelled out for me !
    The harder I work, the Luckier I get!

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    Re: Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

    Quote Originally Posted by zap View Post
    Ok ,well thanks for the help ( rolly eyes here)

    Still don't know what I should do, don't get in bed with the government ok, Keep paying blue shield for crappy Ins?

    I am thick I need it spelled out for me !
    "Blue Shield" and the ".gov" are the same entity. That clear enough?
    By way of decoction, thou shalt do wort.

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