yes I agree. I think we are all doing ok with what we have achieved so far. I'm going to put some feelers out see if there's an unwanted fridge out there. Something in the back of my head says I've seen one somewhere. Hazy at best. The stuff I made was pretty forgiving. They design it that way. Kind of like bait. Not too hard to do, can tolerate some brewing ignorance and still come out ok. I was lucky with the temps I had.
I bought another kit today. I was in another mass merchandise place and I walked past their home brew section which I didn't know they had. I've been there before looking and couldn't find it. So I grabbed a can and BE1. Then went to LHBS to get some more S-04 ale yeast. I'm going to do some of their kits when it's time. Anyway stand by for Kob #3.
I'm looking to improve my OG/mixing of fermentables and the wort aeration. Probably related things.