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    Rugwell led jurors through the 1998 court order, entered as government Exhibit No. 1. It described how the United States gained title to the land in question in 1848, when Mexico ceded it to the United States. Bundy responded by saying the federal government lacked jurisdiction.
    Even if the government legitimately holds title to the land, which I don’t believe they do as the have violated the Admission Act and “Equal Footing Doctrine” on every state admitted to the Union since the discovery of gold at Sutter’s Creek in California in 1848, they are an owner in the same sense as any other owners. They don’t pay realestate taxes but they give PILT Grants to the counties (PaymentInLieuOfTaxes).

    More importantly the government chooses to ignore the fact the ranchers actually own the water rights and the forage rights and have done so long before the Taylor Grazing Act.

    as the Supreme Court noted in 1892 in Barden v Northern Pacific RR Co. U.S. 145 535 it was long settled in fact and in law that once rights are attached it is not ‘public land’

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    Also it is treason against the Constitution to send armed BLM, Park Service and Forest Service personell into a state to enforce their statutes.

    Article I §8 Clause 15 gives Congress the Power . . . . To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

    How Congress chooses to provide for calling forth the Militia appears to be left upt to Congress’ discretion, but this is the only place in the Constitution giving the government any law enforcement power. Those who would have you believe treaties that become the Article VI Supreme Law of the Land and give them law enforcement authority are either mistaken or lying. No treaty may trump the Constitution. The Constitution may only be amended as per Article V. Any treaty which is repugnant to the Constitution is null and void. None of the ABC agencies have any Constitutional authority to arrest anyone anywhere in the Union.

    Since We The People have allowed them to take over our responsibilities we now must suffer the consquences.

    Ryan Bundy understands . . . . Now he must convince the jury

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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    BOMBSHELLS IN BUNDY RANCH CASE: GOVERNMENT WITNESS CONFIRMS BUNDY’S CLAIMS

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    In a stunning turn of events following Judge Navarro’s order that the prosecution turn over all evidence regarding video and agents at Bundy Ranch in 2014, reports are coming out the evidence that was not allowed to be presented in the previous two trials was shown to the jury on Wednesday and that evidence basically shutdown the prosecution from any rebuttal.

    In a video report from John Lamb and Kelly Stewart, who attended the trial and have been reporting on it live from Nevada, said that such evidence as photos of snipers surrounding the Bundy house four days ahead of the impoundment, unlike the prosecution claimed, and photos of Bureau of Land Management agents with guns trained on protesters, as well as other acts of aggression by the BLM.

    “We had a great day,” said Lamb, who has been reporting on the trials since they began. “The government hasn’t been able to object to one thing with the new evidence that’s been provided.”



    Lamb said that this was due to the newly released evidence, which has now been deemed to be relevant. The jury is now seeing the real face of the central government’s tyranny, and I’m guessing that one again, it is not going to go well for Steven Myhre.

    There were several bombshells in the trial too.

    One was a government witness by the name of Mary Ann Rudwell stated on the witness, under oath, that their only goal was to impound the cows to either give them back to Cliven Bundy to let him put them on his 160-acre ranch or sell them and give them the money.

    Of course, we know that the BLM, led by criminal Daniel P. Love, did far more than that in setting up “free speech zones,” killing cattle and threatening and acting violently towards protesters.

    All the defendants are being charged with extortion, and now we’re discovering that the extortion charge is absurd!
    According to this witness, she admitted that they didn’t have in order to sell the cows to keep the money.

    Who was actually paying for the impoundment? The central government, wait, that’s you and me in taxes.

    Furthermore, Lamb produced a document that one of the attorneys for Cliven Bundy gave him that was part of the evidence.

    The document shows the trespass fees that Bundy owed, and guess what? It was only $8,815 and that’s for over ten years, not millions or hundreds of thousands of dollars that we were told by the media and central government propaganda outlets.

    Because the BLM was not fulfilling their obligations on the land, he tried to pay these fees to Clark County in the state of Nevada, which if anything, the land doesn’t really belong to the central government and not really should be owned by the state, but by individuals. However, he was thinking the state would have the control under our Constitution since the Constitution is crystal clear on how the central government may obtain land.

    Bundy was only arguing that he did not owe the money to the BLM.

    Lamb compared what Bundy owed, $8,815, to the vast expenses that the central government has shelled out hundreds of thousands of dollars just on contract cowboys alone, plus the impoundment and then on top of that over $100 million spent on these worthless trials to bring out a false narrative against the defendants.

    Is there anyone that actually thinks the central government is efficient in anything but lawlessness and corruption?
    They didn’t even give the Bundys a chance to sell the cows.

    Stewart said the witness claimed that the reason the cattle were being impounded had nothing to do with money, but looney left-wing environmentalism such as:

    • Environment is being you know negatively impacted
    • Soil is being trampled on
    • The desert tortoises

    None of those things are anything the central government has any constitutional authority to deal with in the first place.
    But the biggest issue was that he allegedly had his cows on the property without a permit! Really? A permit? Well, ok it was about money. The central government extorts its citizens for money for worthless permits to use land it shouldn’t even have claim to in the first place per our Constitution, and don’t give me the Louisiana Purchase treaty deal.
    While treaties may exist under our Constitution, a treaty may not violate the clear written words of the Constitution. In other words, when that land was purchased and states were established, that land should have immediately gone under state control or to those who settled it.

    As Stewart so accurately put it, “So, this all comes down to a piece of paper. This isn’t about the $4000 or $8000 they’re saying he owed them that turned into a million somehow when it hit the media. This is that he was doing something without a permit and he had not received permission from his master to have these cows grazing on the land that he, in fact, had the grazing rights to.”

    Why is that a big deal?

    Simple. If he just has that piece of paper, his cows trampling the soil is OK, the desert tortoise is magical preserved and the environment remains pristine with just that piece of paper.

    It’s sort of like that little thing called indulgences, which we are celebrating a 500-year old protest about under Martin Luther against the Roman Catholic Church for selling little pieces of paper called indulgences that claimed to spring the souls of dead loved ones from Purgatory into Heaven. What God would not do out of love, He would do for a few coins, which would later be used to build what you see in Rome, St. Peters in the Vatican.

    The central government is playing God with the peoples’ rights and the peoples’ land. That’s what this is about, and money and control are driving the entire facade.

    If Bundy had only gotten the permit that would have granted another ten years of grazing on this land and nothing would have happened.

    There would have been no impoundment, no roundup and no BLM with snipers pointed at women and children in the wash.

    Lamb said that the entire thing reminded him of a guilty plea.

    “A guilty plea makes you safe for the public, but you’re presumed innocent and locked up for two years,” he elaborated. “That’s exactly what this permit is about.”

    He then pointed to another situation involving Joe Roberson, who was locked up in Montana because he dug a pond on his own property without a permit. There was nothing wrong with it and it wasn’t polluting anything, but a piece of paper would have gotten the Beast’s approval and therefore made it perfect.

    For those of you who thought you were out from under the King of England, we’ve simply traded one tyrant for a bunch of other tyrants.

    In the words of Mel Gibsonhttps://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/...=1510848914559‘s character in The Patriothttps://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/...=1510848907421, Benjamin Martin, “Why should I trade one tyrant 3,000 miles away for 3,000 tyrants one mile away?”



    We’ve done that through our own ignorance. It’s up to the people to start learning the Constitution and start enforcing it on those who represent them.

    The Bundys and their supporters have shown us the way.

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    If a rancher owns forage rights and water rights on a certain piece of land why must he need a permit to use what he already owns? How can someone be tresspassing on their water and forage rights?


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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Bryan Hyde talking about the previous days in the Cliven Bundy trial as there was no court this morning. ~ J Grady



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    Bryan Hyde talks about happenings outside the courtroom. No report on the afternoon proceeding yet ~J Grady

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    Finally, there are reports on yesterday Nov. 16 from The Bundy trial, Bryan Hyde ~ J Grady



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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    John Lamb with an hour long report on the Nov. 16 Court session. ~ uploaded by J Grady 2 hours ago

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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Quote Originally Posted by monty View Post
    John Lamb with an hour long report on the Nov. 16 Court session. ~ uploaded by J Grady 2 hours ago

    John Lamb reported that the BLM witness said Nevada does not have fences. That is not totally true. I think it was in the 1960s when they began putting drift fences up between neighboring ranchers range to keep one ranchers cattle from straying onto his neighbors range. They also have fenced nearly all the highways to keep the cattle of the roads.


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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    There ia a “widening information divide” in the media @ the Bundy Trial per Vincent Easley II

    The Media’s “Widening Information Divide” and The Bundy Ranch Trial
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    Minor Media I may be, and can but only marvel the skills of those I’ve met from Mainstream Media (MSM.) attending the Bundy Ranch trial in Las Vegas at the US DC Federal Dist. Courthouse

    I lack the skills and resources they do, none the less, I have my part to tell as well. In addition, I’m going to be contrasting a few media persons I’ve met and spoken with as an Editorial in response to National Public Radio’s article featuring Tay Wiles @taywiles High Country News ( https://www.hcn.org )

    +RLM (VinE) Title: How The Bundy Trial Hits America’s Widening Information Divide : NPR

    Wiles is a regular in the courtroom alongside reporters from mainstream outlets like The Los Angeles Times and The Wall Street Journal. But there are also some of the Bundy movement’s early promoters: people from far-right Internet talk shows and conspiracy websites identifying themselves as media. Friends of the Bundys regularly livestream updates to their followers during breaks in the trial (no cameras or recorders are allowed in federal court)
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    Ms. Wiles is very passionate in her work and an excellent writer. As an Environmental Pundit she well respected among her peers and readers. Others would proffer she’s a Public Relations (PR) Propagandist utilising Political Correct (PC) concepts as a #StalkingHorse that Influence Opinion and Policy for Public Land Use.

    Historically such Policies have shown the results to be the Restriction or the Removal of Collectively Held, Vested Interests. Examples include access to Off-Roading, Hiking, Horseback Riding, Hunting and Fishing to name a few. These decades old initiatives have been driving Federal Policy at the US Parks and National Forrest Service, Bureau of Land Management, Fish and Game and other Alphabet Agencies in the Federal Government that are challenging Preemptive Rights of Ownership Antecedent to such Agency’s Policies of Promulgated Proclamations.

    Regardless to Perspective and Consideration in this Chiasmatic Divide, Ms. Wiles doesn’t seem to know the definition of the word Media used in her interview. She also would assume or imply that I and/or (RLM) are Right Wing Conspiracy Theorists To this I would say I’m on neither side of the Political Spectrum identifying with a wide range of aspects affecting each of us. As to Conspiracy Theories, Conspiracies are a Fact, the Theories are the Convolution.

    I’ll conclude this section in saying, Tay said to me that she’d seen some of what I’ve produced without specifying what other than videos on YouTube. I hope she’ll have a closer look that she may discover that which We All Share in common as a part of What Matters Worldwide ( http://whatmattersworldwide.yolasite.com ).

    Allow me to introduce you all to Ken Ritter, @krttr a writer for the Associated Press. He can be considered “old school” in today’s world of “fake news.”

    Ken is a nice guy taking time to respond when you say howdy even when busy with his work.

    I also appreciate his sage candor in a conversation I had with him and how he reports the facts without his personal opinion.

    A problem with “old school” journalisms is the link between fact and opinion are missing. Having the link represented guides the reader in the direction of a conclusion, and creates speculation which leads to deep thought followed in turn by debate.

    I would further Add, in my Opinion, that the part Not Told, by default of the Rules of Journalism and Administrative Decisions, are in fact Opinion and Censor.

    Thank you very much @krttr I commend your work.

    To be continued in contrast of other Journalists including myself pictured below next to the Flag. image credit: https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...30/bundy-trial
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    Rancher Cliven Bundy, center, addresses his supporters along side Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie, right, while being guarded by self-described militia members in the foreground. AP Photo/Las Vegas Review-Journal, Jason Bean



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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Cliven Bundy has been telling the truth . . .

    Did Bundy Owe Millions? See For Yourself!


    BUNDY WAS TELLING THE TRUTH!

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    Did Bundy Owe Millions? See For Yourself!

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    The trial for the Nevada Ranch, Cliven Bundy, is underway in Las Vegas. Bundy is accused of refusing to pay over one million dollars in grazing fees to the Bureau of Land Management, resulting in a forced impoundment operation.

    The impoundment, known as “Operation Gold Butte” caused hundreds of supporters from around the country to gather in Bunkerville, Nevada in April 2014.

    The Main Stream Media has continued the narrative that Bundy owed over $1,000,000 in grazing fees, including FOX NEWS just this week. Bundy has repeatedly stated that this is untrue.

    Documents filed in the case have been substantial and overwhelming for most people to sort through. However, the proof is there.

    In a letter dated Jan 21, 2011, and filed in the case Dec 21, 2012, it clearly outlines what fees that the BLM felt was owed to them.

    https://redoubtnews.com/wp-content/u...-1-678x381.jpgSee Full page here.
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    See Full page here.Total trespass fees were only $8,815.50.
    Administrative Fees added to this are $283,776.00

    Add a $10.00 Service fee and the total comes to $292,601.50.

    This is well below the reported amount of over a million dollars!

    Bundy was telling the truth!

    The main stream media seems to think that the truth isn’t good enough and they must embellish the amount.

    However, do not forget, the government has allowed these “mistakes” to go unchallenged in the public perception. This could be considered complicit in deceiving the public.

    Though the grazing fees are not the central part of the trial, it certainly is a major point for the public.
    The current trial of Cliven Bundy, two of his sons, Ryan and Ammon, as well as supporter Ryan Payne, began this month after multiple delays.

    After two previous trials, the prosecution has yet to gain any substantial guilty verdicts and seem to be resorting to deception to gain their sought after prize. They have been caught several times withholding evidence and being less-than-truthful with the court.

    Judge Gloria Navarro, who has previously shown favoritism towards the prosecution, has yet to sanction the government, dismiss the case, or at least declare a mistrial.

    The trial is expected to last 3-4 months. There is another trial for more defendants due to start 30 days after the completion of this trial.

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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    This video is an hour long interview with John Lamb, The Bundy Trial and Why it Should Matter to You, A Conversation with John Lamb ~ Jason Goodman

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