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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    thanks for the updates , I was wondering what had come of this
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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Quote Originally Posted by EE_ View Post
    They say Bundy owes $1 million, for what, what did he rob the Federal government of? What was taken, what's missing?
    Because the gov't says they owe it, that's all the reason one may need. Remember, the government claims the highest ownership rights to EVERYTHING in the country, including your property, your home, even your very person. If they say you owe them something, that's it.
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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Quote Originally Posted by madfranks View Post
    the government claims the highest ownership rights to EVERYTHING in the country.... even your very person
    A person is not flesh and blood. It is a concept that has no form or basis in reality. A person is a word, an action or representation. Should you be the owner of a person you maybe rewarded for 'good' and punished for 'bad'. Corporations don't exist except by representation.

    You don't have a 'very' person or a singular person. Chances are if you are like everyone else you will have literally thousands of persons. Some are capable of reward while most are capable of punishment.

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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    ^If the Sheriff and the Feds aren't careful I suspect there are going to be guns pointed at them again. sob's
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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    one day the people of this country will wake up and see how the government is at war with them then all hell will break out . I am glad I live now were near a big town are city . I have seen this coming for years now so I have plan a head
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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Quote Originally Posted by mick silver View Post
    one day the people of this country will wake up and see how the government is at war with them then all hell will break out . I am glad I live now were near a big town are city . I have seen this coming for years now so I have plan a head
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    this is from October 29, 2014. I haven't seen it posted.

    REMEMBER THE BUNDY RANCH ORDEAL FROM BACK IN APRIL-2014?


    Retaliate Against The Bundy Ranch And Southern Nevada

    https://nevadastatepersonnelwatch.fi...pg?w=600&h=442As promised from Harry Reid who warned that this is not over, and that “something will happen”, well it appears that it is happening.

    As promised from Harry Reid who warned that this is not over, and that “something will happen”, well it appears that it is happening.

    The federal government is mounting retaliations against the Bundy family and the Southern Nevada people with an official notice recently released by the Federal Registry, declaring that nearly 3 million acres of land in southern Nevada will be declared “ACEC” (read below) and placed off limits to nearly all human activity…
    https://i2.wp.com/www.patriotnetdail...h-standoff.jpg
    On Friday October 10th, 2014 a Notice from the federal registry reveals that the Bundy ranch and most of the rest of Southern Nevada, to become “Areas of Critical Environmental Concern” (ACECs) – decided by non-elected bureaucrats in Washington, D.C., and imposed against the people and the State of Nevada.

    http://ox-d.beforeitsnews.com/w/1.0/...OM_NUMBER_HERE

    90 days from October 10th, 2014 these proposals will become federal law without consent from the Nevada State legislatures or the people of Southern Nevada.

    Here’s a refresher as to what went down earlier this year:







    A Revolutionary Spark In Nevada

    “Areas of Critical Environmental Concern” (ACECs) are human restricted management areas. ACECs have been a tool used by the federal government to gain further control of large masses of western lands and resources.
    As proposed, nearly 3 million acres in Southern Nevada will be locked away from the people. This includes most uses on the land (recreational, agricultural or otherwise).

    Listed below are just a few of the outlined restriction that come with ACECs:
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    · Closed Roads
    · Excluded Trails
    · Closed to Camping
    · Closed to Recreational Vehicles
    · Closed to Motorized Travel
    · Closed to Livestock Grazing
    · Restricted Human Hiking
    · Restricted Horseback Riding
    · Exclude Group Recreations
    · Closed to Mineral Development
    · Closed to Water Access
    · Closed to Hunting / Target Shooting

    The Southern Nevada people soon will have less access to their lands than any other people in the history of this country.

    There are 33 new Areas of Critical Environmental Concern (ACECs) proposed to cover Southern Nevada totaling 1,739,795 acres. 12 of the 22 existing ACECs are also proposed to be expanded. (See List Below) The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) filed this lists on October 1st.
    ACECs

    IF YOU ENJOY USING ANY OF THESE AREAS IT IS ABOUT TO CHANGE

    Area Acres Area Acres
    Big Spring Valley 79,958 Muddy Mountains 228,297
    Bitter Spring 61,840 Old SpanishTrail 51,449
    California Wash 11,998 Opel Mountains 77,410
    Gale Hills / Lovell Wash 4,788 Pahrump Valley 41,770
    Grapevine Springs 202 Pahrump Valley to McCullough 274,061
    Highland Range 53,015 Perkins Ranch 408
    Hiko Wash 708 South Bare Mountains 87,692
    Ivanpah Valley 3,134 South Newbury Mountains 26,877
    Invanpah Valley 289,599 Specter Hills 6,603
    Jean Lake 12,692 Devils Hole Hills 283,538
    LaMadre (North & South) 2,431 Spirit Mountain 9,488
    Lava Dune 623 Stewart Valley 5,204
    Logandale 8,118 Stuart Ranch 278
    Lower Mormon Mesa 66,353 Stump Spring 126,952
    Mesa Milkyetch 9,183 Upper Las Vegas Wash 22,244
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    Mesquite 2,219 Valley of Fire 131,378
    Mt Schader 285 Mormon Mesa 167,594
    Virgin River 8,500 Whitney Pockets 160
    Armagosa Mesquite 9,650 Arden Sites 1,142
    Arrow Canyon 2,070 Ash Meadows 28,202
    Big Dune 2,456 Coyote Spring 51,528
    Crescent Townsites 435 Devils Throat 848
    Gold Butte 346,895 Keyhole Canyon 446
    Hidden Valley 3,356 Piute / Eldorado 352,159
    Rainbow Gardens 39,366 Red Rock Springs 683
    River Mountain 11,029 Stump Springs 646

    Total Restricted Acres 2,767,941

    This is a direct assault on the State of Nevada. It is also a deliberate retaliation against the people for standing against the horrific action of several federal agencies at the Bundy ranch.

    The boldness of the federal government’s timing and action on these matters are astonishing. They are again making a clear case that they are willing to use federal power to punish the local people. Harry Reid’s declaration “This is not over” is proving to be uncharacteristically accurate.

    Before the Bundy ranch standoff, there were approximately 1 million acres of ACECs in Southern Nevada. Now after the Bundy standoff, the BLM is proposing an additional 1.8 Million acres (a 280% increase) all of which just happens to be in Southern Nevada.

    Although this is not proof, anybody with a little intelligence can see that Harry Reid and the BLM are not protecting the environment; they are punishing their enemies.

    How is it that all newly proposed critical environmental land in the Untied States just happens to reside within miles of the Bundy ranch? Is the land in Southern Nevada so different/ dangerous/ special/ delicate and important?

    From near the beginning of history, tyrannical men have sought to oppress through the control of land and resources,

    “Control the land and resources, and you have the power to control the people”.
    There is a direct correlation to land and resources with power and wealth. All major powers in world history have gained their power & wealth by conquering the land and controlling the resources.

    It is self-evident that certain men within our government understand this and have implemented these age-old tactics upon the people of this country. For decades they have used government to gain power & wealth for themselves by controlling the land and resources.

    Our founding fathers understood this nature, they drafted the Constitution to protect us from the despotic men that history is so full of. They limited the powers of government by outlining what lands the federal government can control and by separating the powers they hold. Their intent was to quickly dispose the land and resources to the local people, where it is most safe.

    Under federal rule, the people that live on or near the land have no say to what happens in their own backyards. They have no republic form of government. The decisions are all made by appointed representatives from Washington D.C. These representatives have no responsibility to the people and there is no practical legal way to hold them accountable. In direct violation of the U.S. Constitution federal agencies use the lands as their own and suppress the rightful stewards.

    At the moment of Statehood land inside the new State is no longer U.S. Territory, and no longer does U.S. Congress or any of the federal agencies have authority to dispose of the land or make any rules or regulations respecting to it. At Statehood it becomes the right and duty of the people of the State to dispose of and regulate all the lands within the boarders of that State. This is called a republic form of government, for the people, by the people.

    The incident at the Bundy ranch indicates that people are beginning to question the legitimacy of federally control lands within their State. It also proves that the people have the courage to stand against despotic government actions. The purpose of the federal government is to protect and uphold the rights of the people, not to profit from the spoils in taking their lands and resources away.

    The recent action of the BLM in creating new federal code (ACECs) to expand their control and power by restricting the people further from their lands is a continuation of illegally controlling land with-in a State.

    Will the County and State representatives take courage and end the unconstitutional federal control of land and resources within the State? The legal and rightful control of the land belongs to the local people. The land within the State must be returned to people in a republic form of government. It is time for the State to dispose of the land to the people, open the land up for useful purposes, and protect the preemptive property rights of the people.
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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Thanks for the update Monty, I wonder what is going on currently over there.
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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    The only thing declared necessary in the Constitution & Bill of Rights is the #2A Militia of the several States.
    “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a freeState”
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    Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

    Didnt it come out somewhere that Reid and family had done a deal to supply land, that land to a Chinese conglomerate for some thing... I can't recall what exactly.
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