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    Re: Flat Earthers Won't Go Away

    Quote Originally Posted by woodman View Post
    I don't know if this has been discussed yet:

    Another logical refutation of the flat earth theory is the coriolis effect;
    https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/hu...is-effect.html

    It is interesting that because the circumference of the earth is smaller toward the polar regions, this means the speed of rotation is markedly different from pole to equator.

    I have read that water tends to swirl clockwise south of the equator and counter clockwise north of the equator. I did visit Peru last year but I was too busy to check out the toilets behavior.

    We know it rotates, because we observe it by looking at the planetary objects.

    BUT does it rotate, if you ignore the external (has nothing/little to do with the earth) objects.

    Does a car driving down your street make your chair spin?

    When you confine your observation point to it alone, the earth is not moving.

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    Re: Flat Earthers Won't Go Away

    More thoughts, opinions, and observations. If I'm rehashing, please forgive and humor me.

    First, a thought experiment:
    As the crow flies, it is supposedly approximately 1k miles as the crow flies from my house in the Northeast to Disney World in Florida. If you conceptualize the whole world, and the supposed circumference of the world, this appears to be ridiculous to me. How could such a (relatively) short trip, not even close to half way across the country, be 1/25 of the circumference of the whole world?

    Food for thought:
    The illuminati card game had a flat Earth card. Hmmmm.

    Observation re- high weather hot air balloons vids:
    I've seen youtube videos that clearly demonstrate a curved Earth, and I've seen videos that clearly demonstrate a flat Earth.
    Conclusion- someone is lying.

    Gyroscopes:
    My understanding is that the regular Gyroscopes indicate flat Earth, yet the laser Gyroscopes indicate curved Earth.
    Again- someone is lying.

    Moon:
    Apparently the face of the moon is a constant to anyone on the Earth. It does not change. Can anyone confirm? Has this been discussed? Seem to indicate flat Earth.

    Stars rotating different directions in different hemispheres:
    Would seem to me to indicate a curved Earth. Can anyone give me a flat Earth argument for this phenomenon? Youtube links would be appreciated.

    Bible:

    "The wind goes toward the south, And turns around to the north; The wind whirls about continually, And comes again on its circuit."
    Ecclesiastes 1:6

    It could be argued that this indicates round Earth. Especially the word circuit. Is there a flat Earth argument that explains this?

    "Then Joshua spoke to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel: "Sun, stand still over Gibeon; and Moon, in the Valley Aijalon." So the sun stood still, And the moon stopped, Till the people had revenge Upon their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day."
    Joshua 10:12-13

    Seems to indicate flat Earth. Or seems to at minimum be a very strong proof for geocentric model of Sun revolving around Earth. Is there a Christian argument for ball Earth that explains this scripture? Anyone here read the book of Jasher? Opening up a can of worms here, but what about those that claim that book of Enoch, Jasher, and others should be Biblical cannon? At minimum it seems that the Bible quoted it so it would seem to be worth reading from my perspective.
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    Re: Flat Earthers Won't Go Away

    Quote Originally Posted by dys View Post
    More thoughts, opinions, and observations. If I'm rehashing, please forgive and humor me.

    First, a thought experiment:
    As the crow flies, it is supposedly approximately 1k miles as the crow flies from my house in the Northeast to Disney World in Florida. If you conceptualize the whole world, and the supposed circumference of the world, this appears to be ridiculous to me. How could such a (relatively) short trip, not even close to half way across the country, be 1/25 of the circumference of the whole world?

    Food for thought:
    The illuminati card game had a flat Earth card. Hmmmm.
    Seems like they are playing that card right now... No one in their right mind would have even entertained such a patently insane and unscientific idea 5 years ago, and all of a sudden you have a whole bunch of attractive internet influencers, who may have otherwise valid observations re conspiracies being conducted against us, starting discussion groups and spreading their falsehoods on social media platforms.

    Utterly absurd!

    Of course as people increasingly live their lives away from the physical reality that is our world, in an increasingly abstract cyber reality, where your opinions become more important, than what is real and true, in a sort of make believe egocentric universe, where opinions outside your comfort zone is quickly being blocked, and turned non-existent. I guess in this framework it becomes easier to reject whatever is more difficult to quantify directly, and accept how things appears from your own subjective vantage point...

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    Re: Flat Earthers Won't Go Away

    Though the truth may vary
    This ship will carry our bodies safe to shore

    "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." --Aristotle

    "If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable-what then?" --George Orwell

    "It's not a matter of what is true (reality) that counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true (reality)." --Henry Kissinger

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    Re: Flat Earthers Won't Go Away

    https://www.eutelsat.com/en/satellites.html

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    Buy some flat earth.

    https://satbeams.com/website/links

    Hey they're faking it. yea flat earth, you have to believe, because if you look ... the thought is too terrible to imagine. Falling off the edge.


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