Originally Posted by
dys
Hi everyone, dysgenic here, checking in.
Some comments on this conspiracy to follow:
First of all, the journey alone has been worth the time I've spent checking this out. There is something about this conspiracy that really exposes how 'plugged in' or 'unplugged' our minds really are from the matrix. I say this not to point the finger at any position or even any person, it's just an observation about myself. The self examination of my own possible blind spots and faulty logic areas have been very revealing and worthwhile endeavor. And it's a work in progress.
First, some healthy skepticism:
For me the cannon ball experiment is not compelling. If I were driving in a bus, for example, and I threw a ball up into the air while the vehicle was moving, it would likely come down straight into my hand. BUT if we tore the roof off the bus and conducted the same experiment, it could get a little interesting. However, too dicy and opaque to prove anything for my tastes.
Experiments that involve seeing things that theoretically should not be seen: the problem that I see here is that in a heliocentric Earth, in any given 200 mile stretch the earth may be level or close to it. At least as far as I can tell the heliocentric model doesn't depend on a perfectly spherical Earth. However, I will say that the more of these things we can find, the more it becomes difficult to dismiss the evidence. How many do we need to prove it? Honestly I have no idea.
For Christians of the forum- most Christians believers in flat Earth rely upon a strict position of 'literal bible translation'. For myself, I'm not willing to go that far. Jesus often spoke in parables, even to his own followers ("...beware, the leaven of the Pharisees...- Matthew 16:6). However, we also know that Prophecy is often fulfilled specifically and literally. Net net, imo the literal vs. figurative question specific to flat Earth requires discernment.
Next, a question:
It has been argued that the speed of sound should be different when sound is traveling West to East vs. East to West. Sounds reasonable to me, but I have about 1/1000th of the knowledge of science that some of you guys have. Do the properties of sound mean that sound travels independently to environment? This seems like a a stretch to me, but I'll defer to those that actually know what they are talking about when it comes to science (not me).
From the eyebrow raising to the compelling:
Check out operation fishbowl.
Check out the Shackleford expedition.
Some of the helium balloon footage is compelling.
Spinning ball earth doesn't pass the smell test to me.
As has been posted on this thread, the numbers associated with ball Earth point to the enemy of our souls.
That photo that the news station claimed was a mirage was compelling when you consider it with the rest of the vantage point evidence.
If taken literally, the Bible proves it for me. Big if, though.
We've got a mountain of evidence to prove that NASA is lying about just about everything. Why believe anything that they say?
Conclusion:
As a former poker player, this strikes me as a particularly big hand. And we all know that poker is a game of incomplete information. Heliocentric shoved their entire stack in, and I call.
If I had to guess for my life, I'd guess flat earth.