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    Re: His name was LaVoy Finicum.

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    LaVoy Finicum Shooting: FBI Agent Indicted for Alleged False Statements
    FBI agent indicted on federal accusations he lied about firing at Robert "LaVoy" Finicum
    Maxine Bernstein | TheOregonian - June 28, 2017 309 Comments



    An FBI agent has been indicted on federal accusations that he lied about firing at Robert “LaVoy” Finicum last year as police arrested the leaders of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge occupation.

    The agent will face allegations of making a false statement with intent to obstruct justice, according to sources familiar with the case.

    The indictment stems from a more than yearlong investigation by the inspector general of the U.S. Department of Justice. The agent will be identified when he’s summoned to appear in U.S. District Court in Portland at 1:30 p.m. Wednesday.

    Investigators said a member of the FBI’s elite Hostage Rescue Team fired at Finicum as his 2015 Dodge pickup truck crashed into a snow bank at a roadblock on U.S. 395. Finicum had just sped away from a surprise traffic stop on the rural highway as the occupation leaders traveled off the refuge to a community meeting Jan. 26, 2016.



    The agent's bullets didn't hit Finicum, 54, an Arizona rancher who was the spokesman for the armed takeover of the federal sanctuary near Burns in Harney County. Moments later, state police troopers shot Finicum three times after he emerged from his white truck and reached for his inner jacket pocket, where police said he had a loaded 9mm handgun. One bullet pierced his heart, an autopsy found.

    Assistant U.S. Attorney Charles Gorder Jr. revealed in court papers last June that a grand jury was reviewing the FBI actions. Gorder was explaining the government's desire to keep its memorandum about the inspector general's investigation out of the hands of defense lawyers representing other occupation leaders on federal conspiracy charges.

    The FBI and state police had moved in on Ammon Bundy and other key figures as they were driving in two vehicles from the refuge to a meeting in John Day. Finicum initially stopped but then raced off from police, and less than a minute later swerved into the snow to avoid the roadblock set up by FBI and state police.

    As Finicum left his truck, an FBI agent shot twice at Finicum, though none of the hostage team members admitted to discharging their firearms, the Deschutes County sheriff alleged. The county sheriff's office was tasked with investigating the Finicum shooting.

    FBI agents under investigation for possible misconduct in LaVoy Finicum shooting

    FBI agents under investigation for possible misconduct in LaVoy Finicum shooting

    Investigators find evidence that an FBI agent fired at Finicum, but later denied it. His bullets didn't hit Finicum or contribute to his death. The investigation found two state troopers were justified in shooting the occupation spokesman three times in the back.

    The Oregon investigators concluded that one agent fired at Finicum's truck, hitting it in the roof and missing on the second shot. A state trooper later described to investigators seeing two rifle casings in the area where the FBI agents were posted. But detectives called to investigate didn't find the casings, police reports indicated.

    Federal law prohibits "knowingly and willfully'' making any false, fictitious or fraudulent statement or representation or concealing information.

    Less than two months after the shooting, the FBI acknowledged that a federal agent was under investigation for firing shots and four other members of his FBI team were under investigation for covering up the gunshots. The status of the investigation into the four other FBI team member is unclear.

    At a news conference in March 2016, Portland's-then FBI Special Agent in Charge Greg Bretzing told reporters, "The question of who fired these shots has not been resolved.''

    It's unclear if the indicted agent is on leave or has been dismissed from his job. The hostage team is part of the FBI's Critical Incident Response Group, based out of Quantico, Virginia.

    Oregon's U.S. Attorney Billy J. Williams has scheduled a news conference later Wednesday afternoon at the federal courthouse. His spokesman Kevin Sonoff declined any comment, and Portland's FBI spokeswoman Jennifer Adams said she was unaware of the matter.

    The indictment follows two federal trials against refuge occupiers accused of conspiring to impede U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service and U.S. Bureau of Land Management employees from doing their work at the refuge through intimidation, threat or force.

    Ammon Bundy, older brother Ryan Bundy and five other defendants were acquitted last fall of conspiracy and weapons charges. A second trial of four other occupiers resulted in split verdicts earlier this year, with defendants Jason Patrick and Darryl Thorn convicted of conspiracy and others convicted of damaging government property and misdemeanor charges, including trespass.

    Waco and Ruby Ridge: Past FBI armed siege fiascos

    Waco and Ruby Ridge: Past FBI armed siege fiascos

    The indictment of an FBI agent in the roadblock confrontation where Oregon standoff spokesman Robert "LaVoy" Finicum died follows high-profile FBI fiascos involving its handling of armed sieges.

    Finicium's widow, Jeanette Finicum, has said she plans to sue Oregon State Police and the FBI for civil rights violations in her husband's death. The suit will allege that state police and the FBI used excessive force in the confrontation that could have ended peacefully and that improper police procedures and lack of communication between state police and FBI agents at the scene contributed to his death, her lawyer said.

    -- Maxine Bernstein

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    Re: His name was LaVoy Finicum.

    attempted murder (or similar)? fired into the truck knowing there were people in there

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    Re: His name was LaVoy Finicum.

    Quote Originally Posted by cheka. View Post
    attempted murder (or similar)? fired into the truck knowing there were people in there

    No, three counts of false statement for hiding the fact that he fired two shots at LaVoy then lied about it. Two more charges for obstructing justice. He'll probably get slapped on the wrist and maybe a small fine and time off without pay or some horseshit like that. He deserves to be charged with attempted murder.

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    Washington Times report on the FBI shooter's indictment. Kelli Stewart is correct in that the government is just throwing the little peopl a bone . .


    FBI agent pleads not guilty to lying in Ammon Bundy Oregon standoff

    The FBI agent charged Wednesday with lying about firing his gun during a deadly confrontation during the 2016 Oregon-Bundy standoff may be only the tip of the iceberg.

    Deschutes County Sheriff Shane Nelson had harsh criticism Wednesday for multiple members of the FBI Hostage Rescue Team, saying that their actions during the 41-day siege with supporters of the anti-federal Bundy family had “damaged the integrity of the entire law enforcement profession, which makes me both disappointed and angry.”

    His comments came during a press conference after FBI agent W. Joseph Astarita pleaded not guilty to three counts of making false statements and two counts of obstruction of justice in federal court in Portland.

    But the sheriff didn’t stop with Mr. Astarita.

    He said that he told Justice Department and FBI officials, including now-acting Director Andrew McCabe, over a year ago about “possible criminal conduct by some involved FBI HRT (Hostage Rescue Team) agents.”

    “I was disappointed when I recently heard FBI HRT agents associated with this case were not placed on administrative leave after the briefing by our investigators to FBI administration,” said Sheriff Nelson. “Today’s indictment will ensure that the defendant and hopefully any other culpable FBI HRT members will be held accountable through the justice process.”

    No FBI representatives were present as grim-faced state and federal officials discussed the actions of the FBI unit and the agency’s response.

    Mr. Astarita is the only agent to be indicted in connection with the occupation of a vacant building at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge by two dozen armed supporters of the Bundy family in a protest against federal lands policy.

    He was accused of lying to investigators about firing his weapon twice after Robert “Lavoy” Finicum plowed his vehicle into a snowbank at an FBI roadblock.

    “Specifically, Astarita falsely stated he had not fired his weapon during the attempted arrest of Mr. Finicum when he knew he had in fact fired his weapon,” said a statement by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Oregon.
    Astarita also knowingly engaged in misleading conduct toward Oregon State Police officers by failing to disclose that he had fired two rounds during the attempted arrest,” said the statement.

    Mr. Finicum, 54, was shot and killed Jan. 26, 2016, by the Oregon State Police when he appeared to reach for his jacket, which held a handgun. He and others had taken over a vacant building at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in a protest against federal lands policy.

    The shots fired by Mr. Astarita did not strike Mr. Finicum, according to the U.S. attorney’s office.
    U.S. Attorney Billy J. Williams stressed that the indictment did not affect the outcome of the investigation led by the Deschutes County Sheriff’s Office, which found that the shooting was justified.

    The charges “do not in any way call into question the findings of the major incident team’s investigation of OSP’s use of deadly force,” said Mr. Williams. “OSP’s actions were justified and necessary in protecting officer safety.”

    Outside the courthouse, Finicum family friend Kelli Stewart said the agent should have been charged with more serious offenses, including conspiracy and attempted murder.

    “He and the other FBI agents literally conspired to impede a federal investigation,” said Ms. Stewart in a Facebook video. “They hid the fact that shots were fired, and here we waited 17 months just for a simple indictment to come down. So while we’re happy that something is happening, it feels a little like the people are being simply pacified.”

    She noted that Mr. Astarita was released after the arraignment instead of being held in custody.
    “If I fired a weapon at somebody else and lied about it and hid the evidence as he did, just even as a civilian, I’d be facing a lot of charges, and I’d be in handcuffs,” said Ms. Stewart, adding that “justice has not been served today.”

    Sheriff Nelson thanked U.S. Inspector General Michael Horowitz and his team for “tirelessly searching for the facts in this case.”

    “His office will also conduct thorough administrative review to identify any areas of improvement that will help eliminate any mistakes made by the FBI in the future and increase transparency for federal law enforcement,” said Sheriff Nelson.

    The standoff was led by members of Nevada’s Bundy family, Ammon and Ryan Bundy, prominent critics of the federal government’s lands regulations.

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    edit: Sheriff Nelson has blood on his hands for allowing the feds to set up an assasination ambush in his county.


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    Thom Davis and Rene Powers have new questions now the indictment reveals LaVoy was left laying in the snow overnight. Who was in the ambulance and the second person taken to the hospital that night?

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    Okay, we are talkin and have a question. Since we now know Lavoy Finicum was left all night in the snow, who was the second victim taken to the hospital? Weren't there two taken at the time of arrests? Didn't Bosworth get the guns from the refuge and isnt the timing now giving rise to new facts.

    We were attacked by kate clark, emt, she made a point that she worked on Lavoy that night. She claimed to work on him in the ambulance? Really? Doesnt seem likely to be true now does it? Who did she work on that night in the ambulance then? Was somebody shot with friendly fire? Kate would not let up on the cowboy, she was insisting she worked on Lavoy that night herself...hmmm...we are just asking, lets put the puzzle peaces together.

    How dirty are the dirty birds involved? As malheur lake water?
    Anyone got any thoughts or answers?


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    Re: His name was LaVoy Finicum.

    I believe this was brought up in the Malheur protest thread when it was first made public that the FBI had questioned Butch Eaton about LaVoy on Jan. 3, 2016. If you haven't heard it after reading what Bill Goode wrote and listening to the podcast there should be little doubt this murder was planned right from the begining.


    Bill Goode shared a link.

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    Federal prosecutor Billy Williams' recent KOIN interview continues the lies surrounding LaVoy's murder. What people like Williams don't realize is that lies persist. Only truth will wash everything away.

    Perhaps many are not aware that on 3 January 2016, the FBI interrogated Butch Eaton in his home specifically about LaVoy's presence at the Refuge. The FBI indicated to Butch that they were not interested in either Ammon nor Ryan Bundy. Their only interest was in LaVoy.

    Listen to this 48 minute interview of Butch, starting at the 39 min 45 sec mark. This is proof that LaVoy's murder was premeditated by at least 23 days. This interview with Trent Loos took place on 15 March 2016, but was not released until 7 April, three weeks later.

    Butch is a Harney County resident, who accompanied Ammon, Ryan, LaVoy and others from Burns to the Malheur Refuge on 2 January. He stayed at the Refuge only a short time. Not wanting to be part of what was taking place, Butch decided to walk home. He was interrogated by the FBI the next day at his home.

    Butch was later called as a witness for the prosecution in the first Portland trial. However, his testimony was more beneficial to the defense than to the prosecution, as Butch's sympathies were and are with those at the Refuge, even though he did not wish to take part at the time.

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    Re: His name was LaVoy Finicum.

    Quote Originally Posted by monty View Post
    I believe this was brought up in the Malheur protest thread when it was first made public that the FBI had questioned Butch Eaton about LaVoy on Jan. 3, 2016. If you haven't heard it after reading what Bill Goode wrote and listening to the podcast there should be little doubt this murder was planned right from the begining.


    Bill Goode shared a link.

    8 hrs

    Federal prosecutor Billy Williams' recent KOIN interview continues the lies surrounding LaVoy's murder. What people like Williams don't realize is that lies persist. Only truth will wash everything away.

    Perhaps many are not aware that on 3 January 2016, the FBI interrogated Butch Eaton in his home specifically about LaVoy's presence at the Refuge. The FBI indicated to Butch that they were not interested in either Ammon nor Ryan Bundy. Their only interest was in LaVoy.

    Listen to this 48 minute interview of Butch, starting at the 39 min 45 sec mark. This is proof that LaVoy's murder was premeditated by at least 23 days. This interview with Trent Loos took place on 15 March 2016, but was not released until 7 April, three weeks later.

    Butch is a Harney County resident, who accompanied Ammon, Ryan, LaVoy and others from Burns to the Malheur Refuge on 2 January. He stayed at the Refuge only a short time. Not wanting to be part of what was taking place, Butch decided to walk home. He was interrogated by the FBI the next day at his home.

    Butch was later called as a witness for the prosecution in the first Portland trial. However, his testimony was more beneficial to the defense than to the prosecution, as Butch's sympathies were and are with those at the Refuge, even though he did not wish to take part at the time.

    https://external.fbog2-2.fna.fbcdn.n...Ad1N_A2ZRX_eTw


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    Butch Eaton lives in Harney County and this conversation took place on March 15, 2016 as the…
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    So what will happen to these murderers?
    Jackie did it and you know it!

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    Re: His name was LaVoy Finicum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cebu_4_2 View Post
    So what will happen to these murderers?

    Nobody will ever be charged with murder.
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