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    The Bail Reform Act of 1984 is not an ACT OF CONGRESS; Here is the proof

    Ryan Bundy's paralegal has researched the 'Bail Reform Act of 1984'. She discovered it died in committee and was never passed by Congress.

    The form an Act of Congress:
    1 U.S. Code § 101 - Enacting clause

    Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)




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    The enacting clause of all Acts of Congress shall be in the following form: “Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled.”

    (July 30, 1947, ch. 388, 61 Stat. 634.)

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    HR 5865 died in committee:

    98th Congress HR 5865

    A bill to amend the Bail Reform Act of 1966 to permit consideration of danger to the community in setting pretrial release conditions, to permit pretrial detention of certain offenders, and for other purposes.
    The bill’s titles are written by its sponsor.
    Overview

    Introduced:Jun 14, 1984
    98th Congress, 1983–1984
    Statusied in a previous Congress
    This bill was introduced on September 18, 1984, in a previous session of Congress, but was not enacted.
    Sponsor:Harold Sawyer
    Representative for Michigan's 5th congressional district
    Republican

    JUN 14, 1984 Introduced
    Bills and resolutions are referred to committees which debate the bill before possibly sending it on to the whole chamber.
    SEP 18, 1984 Ordered Reported by Committee
    A committee has voted to issue a report to the full chamber recommending that the bill be considered further. Only about 1 in 4 bills are reported out of committee.

    H.R. 5865 (98th) was a bill in the United States Congress.

    A bill must be passed by both the House and Senate in identical form and then be signed by the President to become law.
    This bill was introduced in the 98th Congress, which met from Jan 3, 1983 to Oct 12, 1984. Legislation not enacted by the end of a Congress is cleared from the books.
    How to cite this information.

    We recommend the following MLA-formatted citation when using the information you see here in academic work:
    “H.R. 5865 — 98th Congress: Bail Reform Act of 1984.” www.GovTrack.us. 1984. June 10, 2017 <https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/98/hr5865>



    Where is this information from?

    GovTrack automatically collects legislative information from a variety of governmental and non-governmental sources. This page is sourced primarily from Congress.gov, the official portal of the United States Congress. Congress.gov is generally updated one day after events occur, and so legislative activity shown here may be one day behind. Data via the congress project.

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    What the courts are using to hold the Bundy's and other political prisoners in pretrial detention is not an Act of Congress, it is statutory law.

    Title 18 USC Sec 40001(a) No citizen shall be imprisoned or otherwise detained except pursuant to an Act of Congress; and . . .

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    The Bail Reform Act of 1985
    appears in the Statutes at Large in Title II, Chapter I, Section 202 of Public Law 94-473. It may be cited as the 'Bail Reform Act of 1984'.

    It looks like to me after HR 5865 died in committee this sleazy congressman slid it in as a rider to Public Law 98-473 which was a Joint Resolution - Making continuing appropriations for the fiscal year 1985, and other purposes.





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    Re: The Bail Reform Act of 1984 is not an ACT OF CONGRESS; Here is the proof

    Quote Originally Posted by monty View Post
    Ryan Bundy's paralegal has researched the 'Bail Reform Act of 1984'. She discovered it died in committee and was never passed by Congress.

    The form an Act of Congress:
    1 U.S. Code § 101 - Enacting clause

    Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)




    prev | next
    The enacting clause of all Acts of Congress shall be in the following form: “Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled.”

    (July 30, 1947, ch. 388, 61 Stat. 634.)

    **********

    HR 5865 died in committee:

    98th Congress HR 5865

    A bill to amend the Bail Reform Act of 1966 to permit consideration of danger to the community in setting pretrial release conditions, to permit pretrial detention of certain offenders, and for other purposes.
    The bill’s titles are written by its sponsor.
    Overview

    Introduced:Jun 14, 1984
    98th Congress, 1983–1984
    Statusied in a previous Congress
    This bill was introduced on September 18, 1984, in a previous session of Congress, but was not enacted.
    Sponsor:Harold Sawyer
    Representative for Michigan's 5th congressional district
    Republican

    JUN 14, 1984 Introduced
    Bills and resolutions are referred to committees which debate the bill before possibly sending it on to the whole chamber.
    SEP 18, 1984 Ordered Reported by Committee
    A committee has voted to issue a report to the full chamber recommending that the bill be considered further. Only about 1 in 4 bills are reported out of committee.

    H.R. 5865 (98th) was a bill in the United States Congress.

    A bill must be passed by both the House and Senate in identical form and then be signed by the President to become law.
    This bill was introduced in the 98th Congress, which met from Jan 3, 1983 to Oct 12, 1984. Legislation not enacted by the end of a Congress is cleared from the books.
    How to cite this information.

    We recommend the following MLA-formatted citation when using the information you see here in academic work:
    “H.R. 5865 — 98th Congress: Bail Reform Act of 1984.” www.GovTrack.us. 1984. June 10, 2017 <https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/98/hr5865>



    Where is this information from?

    GovTrack automatically collects legislative information from a variety of governmental and non-governmental sources. This page is sourced primarily from Congress.gov, the official portal of the United States Congress. Congress.gov is generally updated one day after events occur, and so legislative activity shown here may be one day behind. Data via the congress project.

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    What the courts are using to hold the Bundy's and other political prisoners in pretrial detention is not an Act of Congress, it is statutory law.

    Title 18 USC Sec 40001(a) No citizen shall be imprisoned or otherwise detained except pursuant to an Act of Congress; and . . .

    ******************

    The Bail Reform Act of 1985
    appears in the Statutes at Large in Title II, Chapter I, Section 202 of Public Law 94-473. It may be cited as the 'Bail Reform Act of 1984'.

    It looks like to me after HR 5865 died in committee this sleazy congressman slid it in as a rider to Public Law 98-473 which was a Joint Resolution - Making continuing appropriations for the fiscal year 1985, and other purposes.





    The issue is whether a joint resolution is an act of congress. I think you will find through the voluminous case law citations that it is. However, to the extent the BRA of 1984 is compliant with 18 USC 4001, it appears that there is no continuing resolution past 2008 pursuant to the legislative history inside West Law. I would want to shore that up before I started drawing conclusions like Ryan Bundy's "paralegal" did. -Rand

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    Re: The Bail Reform Act of 1984 is not an ACT OF CONGRESS; Here is the proof

    Quote Originally Posted by Flexin View Post
    The issue is whether a joint resolution is an act of congress. I think you will find through the voluminous case law citations that it is. However, to the extent the BRA of 1984 is compliant with 18 USC 4001, it appears that there is no continuing resolution past 2008 pursuant to the legislative history inside West Law. I would want to shore that up before I started drawing conclusions like Ryan Bundy's "paralegal" did. -Rand

    Ryan Bundy's team noted a Joint Resolution must be renewed every 2 years. They also concluded the resolution was not renewed after 2008.

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