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    Re: Eternal Punishment is Against The Law

    They also cleverly invented purgatory to hide their inconsistencies, and of course raise some revenue.
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    Re: Eternal Punishment is Against The Law

    Quote Originally Posted by palani View Post
    Your logic is PERFECT. Ergo it cannot be in error. But as we say in ingineering "GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT". Hence while the logic might be perfect the facts being allowed in might be flawed.
    Are you an ingineer?

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    "Eternal" or "permanent"?
    crimethink - To even consider any thought not in line with the principles of Ingsoc. Doubting any of the principles of Ingsoc. All crimes begin with a thought. So, if you control thought, you can control crime. "Thoughtcrime is death. Thoughtcrime does not entail death, Thoughtcrime is death.... The essential crime that contains all others in itself."

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    Re: Eternal Punishment is Against The Law

    Quote Originally Posted by crimethink View Post
    "Eternal" or "permanent"?
    Neither, God's actions towards sinners ( 1 John 3:4 ) are redemptive not vindictive. Man's laws are based on.punishment and mostly monetary oppression whereas God's punishment is designed to restore man to his inheritance.
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    Re: Eternal Punishment is Against The Law

    Quote Originally Posted by messianicdruid View Post
    Neither, God's actions towards sinners ( 1 John 3:4 ) are redemptive not vindictive. Man's laws are based on.punishment and mostly monetary oppression whereas God's punishment is designed to restore man to his inheritance.
    Permanent "punishment" - that is, extinguishment of existence (annihilation) - is not truly "punishment." If a spirit doesn't want to love and be with God, why should God impose His will, and force that spirit to do so?

    I have the same problem with permanent torment for similar reasons as you do. Would God allow the torture of spirits in unimaginably gruesome ways for infinity, for finite crimes? It makes the same (non-)sense as torturing animals slowly and painfully for being born defective (a sane, merciful person would simply put them down, quickly). Further, if Satan is overseeing this eternal torture, who oversees it after Satan is destroyed in the Lake of Fire?


    And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

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    crimethink - To even consider any thought not in line with the principles of Ingsoc. Doubting any of the principles of Ingsoc. All crimes begin with a thought. So, if you control thought, you can control crime. "Thoughtcrime is death. Thoughtcrime does not entail death, Thoughtcrime is death.... The essential crime that contains all others in itself."

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