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    Yellen yellin' a different song

    What all this means is that maybe Yellen, who is to retire very soon, wants to go out looking truthy. The all of a suddenness of her newfound truthiness is highlighted in the ZeroHedge article.

    She blames all the debt on "fiscal policy." Fiscal policy means government spending. So correction of "fiscal policy" means higher taxation for the people. It goes without saying that reduction in spending by the government is simply off the table. Ain't gonna happen.

    Since the out of control spending is higher and higher "debt trajectory", and that is not going to stop, we are left with Yellen's one tiny bit of truth that "unsustainability" is inevitable. Unsustainability means crash and collapse. Collapse is unavoidable.

    Ending the Fed and ending fiat money is the only thing that might save in the restoration phase.

    Here's a good article from ZeroHedge about Janet Yellen, Fed chief, singing a new tune.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...-unsustainable

    Several charts would not copy and paste.

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    Fed Chair Janet Yellen Warns Congress: US Debt Trajectory Is Unsustainable
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    During her tesimony this morning, Fed Chair Janet Yellen urged Congress to take into account the growth trajectory of the federal debt when making decisions about spending and taxation.

    She said lawmakers need to work toward achieving "sustainability of this debt path over time," ...

    "Let me state in the strongest possible terms that I agree" the U.S. federal debt trend is unsustainable, may hurt productivity, and living standards of Americans.

    Of course she is correct, but we do not remember her being so forthright during the last few years of President Obama's reign as he doubled the national debt?

    As a reminder, the Congressional Budget Office estimated last month the national debt could reach 91% of gross domestic product by 2027. Lawmakers are weighing major fiscal policy changes, including tax cuts, changes to health care and infrastructure spending, that could drive deficits higher in the coming years. Furthermore, at the cuirrent spending/taxation rates, debt/GDP expected to hit 150% by 2047 if the current government spending picture remains unchanged.

    The CBO's revision from the last, 2016 projection, shows a marked deterioration in both total debt and budget deficits, with the former increasing by 5% to 146%, while the latter rising by almost 1% from 8.8% of GDP to 9.6% by 2017.

    According to the CBO, "at 77 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), federal debt held by the public is now at its highest level since shortly after World War II. If current laws generally remained unchanged, the Congressional Budget Office projects, growing budget deficits would boost that debt sharply over the next 30 years; it would reach 150 percent of GDP in 2047."

    In addition to the booming debts, the office expects the deficit to more than triple from the projected 2.9% of GDP in 2017 to 9.8% in 2047. The deficit at the end of fiscal year 2016 stood at $587 billion.

    A comaprison of government spending and revenues in 2017 vs 2047 shows the following picture:

    The CBO also mentions rising rates as another key reason for the increasing debt burden. The Federal Reserve has kept rates low since the financial crisis but is on track to gradually hike rates in the coming year.

    On the growth side, the CBO expects 2% or less GDP growth over the next three decades, far below the number proposed by the Trump administration.

    The budget office breaks down the primary causes of projected growth in US spending as follows: not surprisingly, it is all about unsustainable social security and health care program outlays.

    The CBO's troubling conclusion:

    Greater Chance of a Fiscal Crisis. A large and continuously growing federal debt would increase the chance of a fiscal crisis in the United States. Specifically, investors might become less willing to finance federal borrowing unless they were compensated with high returns. If so, interest rates on federal debt would rise abruptly, dramatically increasing the cost of government borrowing. That increase would reduce the market value of outstanding government securities, and investors could lose money. The resulting losses for mutual funds, pension funds, insurance companies, banks, and other holders of government debt might be large enough to cause some financial institutions to fail, creating a fiscal crisis. An additional result would be a higher cost for private-sector borrowing because uncertainty about the government’s responses could reduce confidence in the viability of private-sector enterprises.

    It is impossible for anyone to accurately predict whether or when such a fiscal crisis might occur in the United States. In particular, the debt-to-GDP ratio has no identifiable tipping point to indicate that a crisis is likely or imminent. All else being equal, however, the larger a government’s debt, the greater the risk of a fiscal crisis.

    The likelihood of such a crisis also depends on conditions in the economy. If investors expect continued growth, they are generally less concerned about the government’s debt burden. Conversely, substantial debt can reinforce more generalized concern about an economy. Thus, fiscal crises around the world often have begun during recessions and, in turn, have exacerbated them.

    If a fiscal crisis occurred in the United States, policymakers would have only limited—and unattractive—options for responding. The government would need to undertake some combination of three approaches: restructure the debt (that is, seek to modify the contractual terms of existing obligations), use monetary policy to raise inflation above expectations, or adopt large and abrupt spending cuts or tax increases.

    Then again, as the past 8 years have shown, only debt cures more debt, so expect nothing to change.

    Also, we find it just a little confusing why the CBO never warned of an imminent "fiscal crisis" over the past 8 years when total US debt doubled, increasing by $10 trillion under the previous administration.

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    Re: Yellen yellin' a different song

    Sustainable in some crowds could mean removing uneccessary cogs of goverment like the Fed itself.

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    Re: Yellen yellin' a different song

    I wonder if spending by congress critters would become reasonable and under control even if Fed were ended. I am not one hundred percent sure that ending the Fed would end the buying and owning of laws and congress critters.

    Thing is,

    the goal of the Fed is worldwide economic collapse, so the Fed, which includes the moneyed elites or globalists or whatever, probably have some plan in place to control whatever our situation on the ground will be if the Fed is ended. Not even sure exactly what "ending the Fed" , means, but one thing for sure the money stays in the hands of very few at the top and they could care less about orderly transitions and restorations of our republic.

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    Re: Yellen yellin' a different song

    Of course she is correct, but we do not remember her being so forthright during the last few years of President Obama's reign as he doubled the national debt?
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    Look at history, Funny that under Democrats the economy grows and under repubs it crashes?

    Fact !

    Not pushing any agenda, but history!
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    Think about 1976-1988 (The Carter to Reagan years). The US reputation, as well as its economy was a mess in 1980 when Reagan took office. He rebuilt the military and grew the economy doing it.
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    Robbing Peter to pay Paul, then a huge crash, remember the savings and loan thingy? Late 1970's to early 1980's, mudder friker!

    Still stand by my point and post!

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    I very much liked Carter and Reagan and they took the right stand on many important issues. They were patriots and Carter was quite intelligent. Not so much on the intelligence factor with Reagan. That fellow took a lot of naps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dachsie View Post
    I very much liked Carter and Reagan and they took the right stand on many important issues. They were patriots and Carter was quite intelligent. Not so much on the intelligence factor with Reagan. That fellow took a lot of naps.
    It was , what it was!

    Shit, I gave away my last pack of "Billy" beer to a collector friend years ago!

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    Re: Yellen yellin' a different song

    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua01 View Post
    Think about 1976-1988 (The Carter to Reagan years). The US reputation, as well as its economy was a mess in 1980 when Reagan took office. He rebuilt the military and grew the economy doing it.
    He also grew the Far East through quick easy available plastic credit cards.

    These things were all gifted through the Fed. By various macinations. A fed. boom and bust cycle has nothing to do with conservative or liberal politics.

    One side just points at each other there while they both spend spend spend. Is all they were born to do as representatives.

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