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    Re: Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

    Quote Originally Posted by crimethink View Post

    Start looking at the complete facts, and the "Hitler was a Jew working for the Jews" idiocy disintegrates into a pile of poop.
    Exactly.
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    Re: Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigjon View Post

    Lacey says these are Hitler's blunders, I say they are his strategy to annihilate Germans, in preference of his own Jewish background.

    Oh. AH was a self-hating jew.

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    Re: Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

    Quote Originally Posted by crimethink View Post

    Start looking at the complete facts, and the "Hitler was a Jew working for the Jews" idiocy disintegrates into a pile of poop.
    Your methodology is flawed. All the "complete fax" are provided by Jews. Look at the logic instead. Cui bono? Isn't controlled opposition standard Jewish modus operandi?
    Wars are Jews harvest. They plan them and finance them. They place their own kind in key positions so that everything will go according to plan. If they have to take out an enemy leader, they do it in right from the get go like they did the Czar. They let Hitler go on for years because Hitler was guiding the outcome just as the rest of the world leaders were.

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    Re: Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jewboo View Post
    Oh. AH was a self-hating jew.

    Oh no he loved his people, he hated Germans and made sure they lost the war and sent as many of them as he could to their deaths.

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    Re: Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

    Quote Originally Posted by crimethink View Post
    Most of the above is ravings of lesser minds.

    America was at war with Germany for months before Hitler finally declared it de jure. *

    Pre-empting Stalin's invasion of Germany and Western Europe was hardly a blunder.

    America and her industrial output didn't win the war against Germany - Russia's flesh & blood did.

    But those who are hell-bent on insisting "Hitler was a Jew" will hear nothing but their pet theory. Hence, I won't go into depth.

    Not one of us would be here without the vision & leadership of Adolf Hitler and the sacrifice of tens of millions of good men and women. Bolshevism would have been achieved across Europe and North America by 1950 without the NSDAP.




    * MR. CHARGE D'AFFAIRES:

    The Government of the United States having violated in the most flagrant manner and in ever increasing measure all rules of neutrality in favor of the adversaries of Germany and having continually been guilty of the most severe provocations toward Germany ever since the outbreak of the European war, provoked by the British declaration of war against Germany on September 3, 1939, has finally resorted to open military acts of aggression.

    On September 11, 1941, the President of the United States publicly declared that he had ordered the American Navy and Air Force to shoot on sight at any German war vessel. In his speech of October 27, 1941, he once more expressly affirmed that this order was in force. Acting under this order, vessels of the American Navy, since early September 1941, have systematically attacked German naval forces. Thus, American destroyers, as for instance the Greer, the Kearney and the Reuben James, have opened fire on German submarines according to plan. The Secretary of the American Navy, Mr. Knox, himself confirmed that-American destroyers attacked German submarines.

    Furthermore, the naval forces of the United States, under order of their Government and contrary to international law have treated and seized German merchant vessels on the high seas as enemy ships.

    The German Government therefore establishes the following facts:

    Although Germany on her part has strictly adhered to the rules of international law in her relations with the United States during every period of the present war, the Government of the United States from initial violations of neutrality has finally proceeded to open acts of war against Germany. The Government of the United States has thereby virtually created a state of war.

    The German Government, consequently, discontinues diplomatic relations with the United States of America and declares that under these circumstances brought about by President Roosevelt Germany too, as from today, considers herself as being in a state of war with the United States of America.

    Accept, Mr. Charge d'Affaires, the expression of my high consideration.

    December 11, 1941.

    RIBBENTROP.

    The mood of the country in 1941 was that the European wars were none of our business. The Scandinavians and the Germans were not interested in fighting another war for the Jews. Charles Lindbergh made a speech at the Iowa State fair that named the Jew as one of the main agitator for war and the Jewish dominated press howled in protest much like you are doing now, it sounds like you were one of those deluded people in the Iowa crowd.

    There are far more German's in America than Brits and Scandinavians are just northern Germanic people. And I don't think the Brit's can count on the support of the Irish, Scots and Welsh, who they trod on to form the British Empire

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    Des Moines Speech:
    It is now two years since this latest European war began. From that day in September, 1939, until the present moment, there has been an over-increasing effort to force the United States into the conflict.

    That effort has been carried on by foreign interests, and by a small minority of our own people; but it has been so successful that, today, our country stands on the verge of war.

    At this time, as the war is about to enter its third winter, it seems appropriate to review the circumstances that have led us to our present position. Why are we on the verge of war? Was it necessary for us to become so deeply involved? Who is responsible for changing our national policy from one of neutrality and independence to one of entanglement in European affairs?

    Personally, I believe there is no better argument against our intervention than a study of the causes and developments of the present war. I have often said that if the true facts and issues were placed before the American people, there would be no danger of our involvement.

    Here, I would like to point out to you a fundamental difference between the groups who advocate foreign war, and those who believe in an independent destiny for America.

    If you will look back over the record, you will find that those of us who oppose intervention have constantly tried to clarify facts and issues; while the interventionists have tried to hide facts and confuse issues.

    We ask you to read what we said last month, last year, and even before the war began. Our record is open and clear, and we are proud of it.

    We have not led you on by subterfuge and propaganda. We have not resorted to steps short of anything, in order to take the American people where they did not want to go.

    What we said before the elections, we say [illegible] and again, and again today. And we will not tell you tomorrow that it was just campaign oratory. Have you ever heard an interventionist, or a British agent, or a member of the administration in Washington ask you to go back and study a record of what they have said since the war started? Are their self-styled defenders of democracy willing to put the issue of war to a vote of our people? Do you find these crusaders for foreign freedom of speech, or the removal of censorship here in our own country?

    The subterfuge and propaganda that exists in our country is obvious on every side. Tonight, I shall try to pierce through a portion of it, to the naked facts which lie beneath.

    When this war started in Europe, it was clear that the American people were solidly opposed to entering it. Why shouldn't we be? We had the best defensive position in the world; we had a tradition of independence from Europe; and the one time we did take part in a European war left European problems unsolved, and debts to America unpaid.

    National polls showed that when England and France declared war on Germany, in 1939, less than 10 percent of our population favored a similar course for America. But there were various groups of people, here and abroad, whose interests and beliefs necessitated the involvement of the United States in the war. I shall point out some of these groups tonight, and outline their methods of procedure. In doing this, I must speak with the utmost frankness, for in order to counteract their efforts, we must know exactly who they are.

    The three most important groups who have been pressing this country toward war are the British, the Jewish and the Roosevelt administration.

    Behind these groups, but of lesser importance, are a number of capitalists, Anglophiles, and intellectuals who believe that the future of mankind depends upon the domination of the British empire. Add to these the Communistic groups who were opposed to intervention until a few weeks ago, and I believe I have named the major war agitators in this country.

    I am speaking here only of war agitators, not of those sincere but misguided men and women who, confused by misinformation and frightened by propaganda, follow the lead of the war agitators.

    As I have said, these war agitators comprise only a small minority of our people; but they control a tremendous influence. Against the determination of the American people to stay out of war, they have marshaled the power of their propaganda, their money, their patronage.

    Let us consider these groups, one at a time.

    First, the British: It is obvious and perfectly understandable that Great Britain wants the United States in the war on her side. England is now in a desperate position. Her population is not large enough and her armies are not strong enough to invade the continent of Europe and win the war she declared against Germany.

    Her geographical position is such that she cannot win the war by the use of aviation alone, regardless of how many planes we send her. Even if America entered the war, it is improbable that the Allied armies could invade Europe and overwhelm the Axis powers. But one thing is certain. If England can draw this country into the war, she can shift to our shoulders a large portion of the responsibility for waging it and for paying its cost.

    As you all know, we were left with the debts of the last European war; and unless we are more cautious in the future than we have been in the past, we will be left with the debts of the present case. If it were not for her hope that she can make us responsible for the war financially, as well as militarily, I believe England would have negotiated a peace in Europe many months ago, and be better off for doing so.

    England has devoted, and will continue to devote every effort to get us into the war. We know that she spent huge sums of money in this country during the last war in order to involve us. Englishmen have written books about the cleverness of its use.

    We know that England is spending great sums of money for propaganda in America during the present war. If we were Englishmen, we would do the same. But our interest is first in America; and as Americans, it is essential for us to realize the effort that British interests are making to draw us into their war.

    The second major group I mentioned is the Jewish.

    It is not difficult to understand why Jewish people desire the overthrow of Nazi Germany. The persecution they suffered in Germany would be sufficient to make bitter enemies of any race.

    No person with a sense of the dignity of mankind can condone the persecution of the Jewish race in Germany. But no person of honesty and vision can look on their pro-war policy here today without seeing the dangers involved in such a policy both for us and for them. Instead of agitating for war, the Jewish groups in this country should be opposing it in every possible way for they will be among the first to feel its consequences.

    Tolerance is a virtue that depends upon peace and strength. History shows that it cannot survive war and devastations. A few far-sighted Jewish people realize this and stand opposed to intervention. But the majority still do not.

    Their greatest danger to this country lies in their large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio and our government.

    I am not attacking either the Jewish or the British people. Both races, I admire. But I am saying that the leaders of both the British and the Jewish races, for reasons which are as understandable from their viewpoint as they are inadvisable from ours, for reasons which are not American, wish to involve us in the war.

    We cannot blame them for looking out for what they believe to be their own interests, but we also must look out for ours. We cannot allow the natural passions and prejudices of other peoples to lead our country to destruction.

    The Roosevelt administration is the third powerful group which has been carrying this country toward war. Its members have used the war emergency to obtain a third presidential term for the first time in American history. They have used the war to add unlimited billions to a debt which was already the highest we have ever known. And they have just used the war to justify the restriction of congressional power, and the assumption of dictatorial procedures on the part of the president and his appointees.

    The power of the Roosevelt administration depends upon the maintenance of a wartime emergency. The prestige of the Roosevelt administration depends upon the success of Great Britain to whom the president attached his political future at a time when most people thought that England and France would easily win the war. The danger of the Roosevelt administration lies in its subterfuge. While its members have promised us peace, they have led us to war heedless of the platform upon which they were elected.

    In selecting these three groups as the major agitators for war, I have included only those whose support is essential to the war party. If any one of these groups--the British, the Jewish, or the administration--stops agitating for war, I believe there will be little danger of our involvement.

    I do not believe that any two of them are powerful enough to carry this country to war without the support of the third. And to these three, as I have said, all other war groups are of secondary importance.

    When hostilities commenced in Europe, in 1939, it was realized by these groups that the American people had no intention of entering the war. They knew it would be worse than useless to ask us for a declaration of war at that time. But they believed that this country could be entered into the war in very much the same way we were entered into the last one.

    They planned: first, to prepare the United States for foreign war under the guise of American defense; second, to involve us in the war, step by step, without our realization; third, to create a series of incidents which would force us into the actual conflict. These plans were of course, to be covered and assisted by the full power of their propaganda.

    Our theaters soon became filled with plays portraying the glory of war. Newsreels lost all semblance of objectivity. Newspapers and magazines began to lose advertising if they carried anti-war articles. A smear campaign was instituted against individuals who opposed intervention. The terms "fifth columnist," "traitor," "Nazi," "anti-Semitic" were thrown ceaselessly at any one who dared to suggest that it was not to the best interests of the United States to enter the war. Men lost their jobs if they were frankly anti-war. Many others dared no longer speak.

    Before long, lecture halls that were open to the advocates of war were closed to speakers who opposed it. A fear campaign was inaugurated. We were told that aviation, which has held the British fleet off the continent of Europe, made America more vulnerable than ever before to invasion. Propaganda was in full swing.

    There was no difficulty in obtaining billions of dollars for arms under the guise of defending America. Our people stood united on a program of defense. Congress passed appropriation after appropriation for guns and planes and battleships, with the approval of the overwhelming majority of our citizens. That a large portion of these appropriations was to be used to build arms for Europe, we did not learn until later. That was another step.

    To use a specific example; in 1939, we were told that we should increase our air corps to a total of 5,000 planes. Congress passed the necessary legislation. A few months later, the administration told us that the United States should have at least 50,000 planes for our national safety. But almost as fast as fighting planes were turned out from our factories, they were sent abroad, although our own air corps was in the utmost need of new equipment; so that today, two years after the start of war, the American army has a few hundred thoroughly modern bombers and fighters--less in fact, than Germany is able to produce in a single month.

    Ever since its inception, our arms program has been laid out for the purpose of carrying on the war in Europe, far more than for the purpose of building an adequate defense for America.

    Now at the same time we were being prepared for a foreign war, it was necessary, as I have said, to involve us in the war. This was accomplished under that now famous phrase "steps short of war."

    England and France would win if the United States would only repeal its arms embargo and sell munitions for cash, we were told. And then [illegible] began, a refrain that marked every step we took toward war for many months--"the best way to defend America and keep out of war." we were told, was "by aiding the Allies."

    First, we agreed to sell arms to Europe; next, we agreed to loan arms to Europe; then we agreed to patrol the ocean for Europe; then we occupied a European island in the war zone. Now, we have reached the verge of war.

    The war groups have succeeded in the first two of their three major steps into war. The greatest armament program in our history is under way.

    We have become involved in the war from practically every standpoint except actual shooting. Only the creation of sufficient "incidents" yet remains; and you see the first of these already taking place, according to plan [ill.]-- a plan that was never laid before the American people for their approval.

    Men and women of Iowa; only one thing holds this country from war today. That is the rising opposition of the American people. Our system of democracy and representative government is on test today as it has never been before. We are on the verge of a war in which the only victor would be chaos and prostration.

    We are on the verge of a war for which we are still unprepared, and for which no one has offered a feasible plan for victory--a war which cannot be won without sending our soldiers across the ocean to force a landing on a hostile coast against armies stronger than our own.

    We are on the verge of war, but it is not yet too late to stay out. It is not too late to show that no amount of money, or propaganda, or patronage can force a free and independent people into war against its will. It is not yet too late to retrieve and to maintain the independent American destiny that our forefathers established in this new world.

    The entire future rests upon our shoulders. It depends upon our action, our courage, and our intelligence. If you oppose our intervention in the war, now is the time to make your voice heard.

    Help us to organize these meetings; and write to your representatives in Washington. I tell you that the last stronghold of democracy and representative government in this country is in our house of representatives and our senate.

    There, we can still make our will known. And if we, the American people, do that, independence and freedom will continue to live among us, and there will be no foreign war.

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    Re: Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

    Quote Originally Posted by hoarder View Post
    I'm here without the vision and leadership of sheckelgroover.
    First mistake: you follow the Jewish propaganda that his name was ever Schicklgruber. He was born Hitler.

    And no, you wouldn't be here without Hitler. You'd either never have been born, or, if you are older than dirt, you'd have been "liquidated" as were nearly 200,000,000 Goyim by Bolshevism under the forcibly-retarded phase.

    Hitler and the European heroes gave us about 80 years.


    Quote Originally Posted by hoarder View Post
    Yes, he liked to sacrifice Joy-mans.
    There is ZERO evidence whatsoever that Hitler was a Jew; hence, your idiotic comment - implying that Hitler talked Yiddish - merely makes you look stupid.
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    Re: Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

    Quote Originally Posted by hoarder View Post
    Your methodology is flawed. All the "complete fax" are provided by Jews. Look at the logic instead. Cui bono? Isn't controlled opposition standard Jewish modus operandi?
    Wars are Jews harvest. They plan them and finance them. They place their own kind in key positions so that everything will go according to plan. If they have to take out an enemy leader, they do it in right from the get go like they did the Czar. They let Hitler go on for years because Hitler was guiding the outcome just as the rest of the world leaders were.
    Your "methodology" is that Hitler lost the war so he "must have been" a Jew. That's not logic.

    As for "taking out" Hitler, there were dozens of assassination attempts. Oh, but you say "the Jews staged them all." If that is so, then the Jews are superhuman, and we should worship them...
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    Re: Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigjon View Post
    Oh no he loved his people, he hated Germans and made sure they lost the war and sent as many of them as he could to their deaths.
    You'd have preferred the Bolshevists have simply walked right into all of Germany, and raped all the women and murdered all the men.

    I thought you were an Asatruar, "Victory or Valhalla," and all that shit? What's with the cowardice?

    It's a special kind of stupid to dismiss the grave threat Stalin was, and refuse to acknowledge that the Red Army was poised on the frontiers for an imminent massive offensive when the Wehrmacht crashed into them unexpectedly.
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    Re: Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigjon View Post
    The mood of the country in 1941 was that the European wars were none of our business. The Scandinavians and the Germans were not interested in fighting another war for the Jews. Charles Lindbergh made a speech at the Iowa State fair that named the Jew as one of the main agitator for war and the Jewish dominated press howled in protest much like you are doing now, it sounds like you were one of those deluded people in the Iowa crowd.
    Are you drunk?

    I never advocate war for war's sake. Especially fratricidal wars.

    But the fact of the matter is the Jewnited States committed a concerted campaign of acts of war against Germany for months, and Hitler finally responded on 12/11/1941. Did you expect Germany to simply keep "taking" it?

    As for Lindbergh, his talk was all meaningless: he went along with the murder of Europe's saviors when Rosenfeld's lust brought about open warfare. He even begged to be reinstated in the USAAF.
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    Re: Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

    Quote Originally Posted by crimethink View Post
    Your "methodology" is that Hitler lost the war so he "must have been" a Jew. That's not logic.

    As for "taking out" Hitler, there were dozens of assassination attempts. Oh, but you say "the Jews staged them all." If that is so, then the Jews are superhuman, and we should worship them...
    Who runs Hollywood? Of course Jews stage events. They could have easily killed him in the beginning because they ALWAYS infiltrate the opposition. They couldn't have killed as many Joy-mans in WW2 if they didn't have Hitler to spearhead the AshkeNAZI party and follow the script to the end.

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