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    Why some of us stubbornly look to the King James Version of the Bible

    I receive an email each night with a Bible verse.

    Tonight's:

    Luke 2:14

    The email uses what many call the New International (Per)Version, and its text of this verse doesn't mesh with what I recall growing up:

    "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace to men on whom his favor rests."

    Whoa, what?!

    This is what I remember, by heart:

    "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men."

    Notice the difference?

    Even my preferred secondary version, in "modern English," the New American Standard, perverts this verse:

    "Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace among men with whom He is pleased."

    It is interesting that many consider Yahweh God to have been a "meanie" in olden times, but the new "enlightened age" has made Him a nice(r) guy. Yet the "olde text" is what makes Yahweh look more compassionate to all His creation.

    When studying the Bible, always compare the verse you're reading to how the grand English standard, the King James Version, lays it out.
    The night has come upon us, and we have but two choices: to fear it, or to face it bravely while looking to the Light that cannot be overcome. John 8:12

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    Re: Why some of us stubbornly look to the King James Version of the Bible

    It sure puts a different twist on it.

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    Re: Why some of us stubbornly look to the King James Version of the Bible

    Those who profess to be wise but are fools (Romans 1:22), the "textual scholars," insist the new version is correct, based on an alleged "missing (single) letter" in the original manuscripts.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=2p...page&q&f=false

    It's very telling the Luther Bible concurs with the King James, until it was "revised" during the current era of utter apostasy.

    More:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=rK...page&q&f=false

    For the Catholics among us, the Douay-Rheims renders it:

    "Glory to God in the highest: and on earth peace to men of good will."

    (arguably, a legitimate variant)

    “Glory to God in the highest and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests.”

    Is the new official version in the NABRE (New American Bible, Revised Edition), for American Catholics.


    The trouble with the new version is the exclusivity. This is inconsistent with God's expressed Will in such verses as John 3:16, where EVERYONE is invited. The accursed sinner, who believes he has no possibility of redemption, is driven away by the new texts. God's UNCONDITIONAL invitation to love Him through His Son is blurred. A religion of works and ego replaces the faith of total reliance on God's mercy via Jesus Christ. "HA HA, God loves me, but not you"...and we return back to the "Traditions of the Elders."
    The night has come upon us, and we have but two choices: to fear it, or to face it bravely while looking to the Light that cannot be overcome. John 8:12

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    Re: Why some of us stubbornly look to the King James Version of the Bible

    I'm not a religious guy, but I have a question.
    It seems to me that if there really is a guy named Satan, he would be looking for opportunities to subvert the Word of God. Examples of such opportunities might be in translations of the Bible or control of major Churches.
    If subversion is an incremental thing, why arbitrarily decide that the King James Version is the real McCoy? What was written before the KJV and how did it differ? Isn't it possible that the KJV itself may have been subverted ?

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    Re: Why some of us stubbornly look to the King James Version of the Bible

    Quote Originally Posted by hoarder View Post
    I'm not a religious guy, but I have a question.
    It seems to me that if there really is a guy named Satan, he would be looking for opportunities to subvert the Word of God. Examples of such opportunities might be in translations of the Bible or control of major Churches.
    If subversion is an incremental thing, why arbitrarily decide that the King James Version is the real McCoy? What was written before the KJV and how did it differ? Isn't it possible that the KJV itself may have been subverted ?
    Unlike many, I do not "worship" the Bible. The Word of God is Jesus Christ Himself (John 1:1). Hence, I do not consider the King James "perfect." In fact, it's far from it. An easy example is understanding the Talmudic superstition about not proclaiming the name of Yahweh (Deuteronomy 32:3) was practiced by the translators of the KJV. This is seen wherever Yahweh, God's actual Name, is replaced with "LORD." The Bible itself does not command us to avoid use of God's Name - in fact, as noted in the earlier verse, we are to proclaim His Name! This replacement - hiding - of His Name is a Kosher practice...picked up by most Christians, either by ignorance or design (the former in nearly all cases; few are aware "the Jews" are not the People of the God in the Bible, so they think their practices are "Biblical").

    As for the KJV being superior to modern versions, it has stood the test of time, giving the English speaking world a dependable English text of the Scriptures with which to create a Godly society. Abandonment of the KJV, and its replacement by anti-Christ garbage versions, and concurrently, "interpretation" works like the Scofield Bible, have led to the Judeo-"Christianity" of today. One does not find endorsement of faggotry, Bolshevism, or "feminism" in the KJV's words.

    What came before the KJV? The (incomplete) Tyndale Bible...which John Tyndale gave his life for. Myles Coverdale completed it (in 1539, as "The Great Bible"). Both drew from Martin Luther and Desiderius Erasmus. The prose of both are seen within the King James and the Geneva Bible (a work largely of the apostate Jean Cauvin "Calvin"), since Tyndale's and Coverdale's translation/literary work was excellent.

    Even further back was the Wycliffe Bible (1384), but that's getting into almost-unreadable Middle English. Though, the consistency over the centuries is fascinating:

    Wycliffe: For God louede so the world, that he ȝaf his oon bigetun sone, that ech man that bileueth in him perische not, but haue euerlastynge lijf.

    King James Version: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
    The night has come upon us, and we have but two choices: to fear it, or to face it bravely while looking to the Light that cannot be overcome. John 8:12

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    Re: Why some of us stubbornly look to the King James Version of the Bible

    Because religion is ALL bullshit! Change a few words here and there, continue to propagate them over and over, and soon they become 'The Word of God!' I'm not attacking those who are religious. My viewpoints are my own and I don't suggest anyone should think like I do on the topic. DYODD!
    Quote Originally Posted by crimethink View Post
    I receive an email each night with a Bible verse.

    Tonight's:

    Luke 2:14

    The email uses what many call the New International (Per)Version, and its text of this verse doesn't mesh with what I recall growing up:

    "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace to men on whom his favor rests."

    Whoa, what?!

    This is what I remember, by heart:

    "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men."

    Notice the difference?

    Even my preferred secondary version, in "modern English," the New American Standard, perverts this verse:

    "Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace among men with whom He is pleased."

    It is interesting that many consider Yahweh God to have been a "meanie" in olden times, but the new "enlightened age" has made Him a nice(r) guy. Yet the "olde text" is what makes Yahweh look more compassionate to all His creation.

    When studying the Bible, always compare the verse you're reading to how the grand English standard, the King James Version, lays it out.
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    Re: Why some of us stubbornly look to the King James Version of the Bible

    Several religions claim that all or some of their works were authored (written or dictated) by their god or gods. Many editions of the Bible are under copyright due to their unique edition or translation. In the United Kingdom, the King James Version of the Bible is covered by a crown copyright.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyri...eligious_works

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    Re: Why some of us stubbornly look to the King James Version of the Bible

    So, the word of God is copyrighted? Interesting!
    Quote Originally Posted by ziero0 View Post
    Several religions claim that all or some of their works were authored (written or dictated) by their god or gods. Many editions of the Bible are under copyright due to their unique edition or translation. In the United Kingdom, the King James Version of the Bible is covered by a crown copyright.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyri...eligious_works
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    Re: Why some of us stubbornly look to the King James Version of the Bible

    the NIV even posts the following copyright notice on BibleGateway:

    Copyright Information

    The NIV text may be quoted in any form (written, visual, electronic or audio), up to and inclusive of five hundred (500) verses without express written permission of the publisher, providing the verses do not amount to a complete book of the Bible nor do the verses quoted account for twenty-five percent (25%) or more of the total text of the work in which they are quoted.

    When the NIV is quoted in works that exercise the above fair use clause, notice of copyright must appear on the title or copyright page or opening screen of the work (whichever is appropriate) as follows:

    THE HOLY BIBLE, NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION®, NIV® Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.™ Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide.

    These Scriptures are copyrighted by the Biblica, Inc.™ and have been made available on the Internet for your personal use only. Any other use including, but not limited to, copying or reposting on the Internet is prohibited. These Scriptures may not be altered or modified in any form and must remain in their original context. These Scriptures may not be sold or otherwise offered for sale.
    https://christianity.stackexchange.c...-public-domain

    It has been said that the last uncopyrighted bible was the 1611 KJV

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    Re: Why some of us stubbornly look to the King James Version of the Bible

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