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    Re: California city OKs jail time for defying plastic straw ban

    Quote Originally Posted by osoab View Post
    2 Liter bottles haven't been around 100 years.
    The point is...they are made today, and in a 100 years from now they will still be around floating in our oceans, unless we do something about it.
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    Re: California city OKs jail time for defying plastic straw ban

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    Not sure, but the CEO and founder is a 23 year old young guy. At least he wants to use technology to better the world. That org is based in Holland. There's another NPO based solely in California that's trying to do the same thing, but for the life of me, I can't seem to find the link to them. If I can find it, I will.

    The Ocean Cleanup is ran by the 23 year old. You can make donations through these guys if you are in the States. Netherland America Foundation They look shady.

    The NAF is the leading bilateral foundation promoting high-impact exchanges between the Netherlands and the United States.

    Offering NAF-Fulbright Fellowships, Study Loans, Programs in the Arts, Sciences, Business, Public Affairs and Historic Preservation
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    HISTORY

    The NAF was founded by visionary leaders in 1921. Edward Bok, celebrated publisher of the Ladies’ Home Journal, served as its first president. Bok and his colleagues – including Franklin D. Roosevelt – were determined to build the NAF into an activist organization.
    Business, government and academic leaders served as presidents, among them: Thomas J. Watson, founder of IBM; the Hon. William C. Redfield, former U.S. Secretary of Commerce, and Dr. A.J. Barnouw, Queen Wilhelmina Professor at Columbia University.
    Quote Originally Posted by Neuro View Post
    It is funny though this “plastic in the ocean” was not much of an issue until about a year or two ago, and now we are bombarded with it every day on social and mainstream media. The last month I went to beaches of the Adriatic Sea, the Baltic Sea, the North Sea and I didn’t see any plastics at all. These NPO’s spend their money on creating awareness on this ”problem”... Why is that? Misdirecting peoples attention? Or is it just a cynical way for the founders and directors of these orgs to earn money? Or is it a huge problem really?

    Here is a challenge, find a plastic wrap in the ocean that is 30 years old... Shouldn’t be too difficult as they tell us that plastic in the oceans are virtually indestructible, and takes at least thousands of years to be broken down. Most product wraps have been redesigned the last 30 years so an old one should be easy to distinguish from a new.
    I haven't found any consistent images or sizes of said patch. That infographic above has it a 0.41% to 8.1% of the Pacific. What?

    The Ocean Cleanup has a lot of front end office listed. Not a lot of backbone as I see it. The whole thing seems like a PR stunt with a tinge of money laundering.
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    Re: California city OKs jail time for defying plastic straw ban

    Quote Originally Posted by osoab View Post
    The Ocean Cleanup is ran by the 23 year old. You can make donations through these guys if you are in the States. Netherland America Foundation They look shady.



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    I haven't found any consistent images or sizes of said patch. That infographic above has it a 0.41% to 8.1% of the Pacific. What?

    The Ocean Cleanup has a lot of front end office listed. Not a lot of backbone as I see it. The whole thing seems like a PR stunt with a tinge of money laundering.
    Further it is in the Middle of the ocean and supposedly it is constantly moving so you can’t locate it, you can’t even see it on satellite images. To me this smells... bad!
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    Re: California city OKs jail time for defying plastic straw ban

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    Further it is in the Middle of the ocean and supposedly it is constantly moving so you can’t locate it, you can’t even see it on satellite images. To me this smells... bad!
    Well, there are no satellites out over the Pacific so that part is not smelly.
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    Re: California city OKs jail time for defying plastic straw ban

    Quote Originally Posted by cheka. View Post
    Reminds me when they banned light bulbs and this entrepreneur started selling them as heating elements. LOL
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    Re: California city OKs jail time for defying plastic straw ban

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    Reminds me when they banned light bulbs and this entrepreneur started selling them as heating elements. LOL
    Can't get fuck for regular bulbs that last longer than a day except garage door opener bulbs.
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    Re: California city OKs jail time for defying plastic straw ban

    Some genius at Starbucks thought it was prudent to reduce plastic waste by selling paper straws instead...
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    Re: California city OKs jail time for defying plastic straw ban

    Surprise surprise?

    Paper straw brands tested contain toxic fluoride.
    PFAS compounds are synthetic organofluorine chemical compounds that have multiple fluorine atoms attached to an alkyl chain

    tandfonline.com: Research Article: Assessment of poly- and perfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) in commercially available drinking straws using targeted and suspect screening approaches
    24 Aug 2023
    In order to make these materials water-repellent, PFAS are added during manufacturing but can also already be present early in the supply chain due to the use of contaminated raw materials. In the present study, we examined the PFAS concentrations in 39 different brands of straws, made from five materials (i.e. paper, bamboo, glass, stainless steel, and plastic) commercially available on the Belgian market. We combined both targeted and suspect-screening approaches to evaluate a wide range of PFAS. PFAS were found to be present in almost all types of straws, except for those made of stainless steel. PFAS were more frequently detected in plant-based materials, such as paper and bamboo. We did not observe many differences between the types of materials, or the continents of origin. The presence of PFAS in plant-based straws shows that they are not necessarily biodegradable and that the use of such straws potentially contributes to human and environmental exposure of PFAS...

    Their unique water-repellent and fire-resistant properties, as well as their thermal and chemical stability, ensure that these organic compounds are produced and used on a large industrial scale for various applications. However, most PFAS barely break down and are both accumulative and potentially toxic to humans, animals, and the environment (EEA Citation2022).

    Intake through food and drinking water are the main routes of general human exposure to PFAS...

    By drinking through such straws, humans may ingest a so far undetermined amount of PFAS. As a study on PFAS in plant-based straws has never been explored in Europe before..

    PFAS were detected in almost all paper-based straws, with highly variable concentrations between brands, ranging from < LOQ to 7.15 ng/g...

    Finally, three out of four plastic straw brands contained quantifiable PFAS concentrations, ranging from < LOQ to 0.924 ng/g...

    Our study confirmed that straws might be an exposure route of TFA and TFMS which might result in increased exposure to PFAS for humans and subsequent potential toxic effects...

    Plant-based straws marketed as eco-friendly alternatives are as such not necessarily more sustainable for the planet than plastics, because they may contribute to the current prominent PFAS pollution issues (Langberg et al. Citation2020; Helmer et al. Citation2022). Plant-based FCMs, particularly those made of paper, are supposed to be recyclable products, but will most likely end up in landfills or be incinerated, releasing PFAS further into the environment (Monge Brenes et al. Citation2019; Masoner et al. Citation2020; Stoiber et al. Citation2020).
    epa.gov: Meaningful and Achievable Steps You Can Take to Reduce Your Risk
    Steps You Can Take to Reduce Risk from Consumer Products Containing PFAS

    Consumer Products: Even though recent efforts to remove certain PFAS from commerce have reduced the likelihood of exposure, some household products and indoor air or dust may still contain PFAS.
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    Re: California city OKs jail time for defying plastic straw ban

    Will the Democrat and WEF type p&d staffers now again do their 'settled science' thing and offer more jail time diktat for those trying to avoid previous jail time diktat?

    consumerreports.org: Dangerous PFAS Chemicals Are in Your Food Packaging

    March 24, 2022
    These per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS), known as “forever chemicals,” can be found not only in nonstick pans and waterproof gear but also in the grease-resistant packaging that holds your food from takeout chains and supermarkets. Packaging made with PFAS often resembles paper or cardboard—a seemingly virtuous alternative to plastic...

    In recent decades, PFAS exposure has been linked to a growing list of problems, including immune system suppression, lower birth weight, and increased risk for some cancers. This raises alarms about the use of these compounds, especially in items such as burger wrappers and salad bowls...

    Scientists and regulators are still debating what level of organic fluorine indicates intentional use. California has banned intentionally added PFAS; starting in January 2023, paper food packaging must have less than 100 parts per million organic fluorine. Denmark has settled on 20 ppm as that threshold. CR’s experts support the 20-ppm limit.

    “If they can get to 100 ppm, they should be able to get to 20 ppm,” Peaslee says. “Lower is always the ultimate goal.”

    CR tested multiple samples of 118 products and calculated average organic fluorine levels for each. Overall, CR detected that element in more than half the food packaging tested. Almost a third—37 products—had organic fluorine levels above 20 ppm, and 22 were above 100 ppm.
    consumerreports.org: To Reduce PFAS Levels in Food, Cook at Home
    October 09, 2019
    People who frequently eat meals prepared at home have lower levels of PFAS chemicals in their blood compared to those who often eat fast food, takeout, or restaurant meals, according to a new study published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives.

    ...At high levels of exposure, some have been linked to serious health problems, such as cancer, high cholesterol levels, obesity, thyroid disease, weakened immune system response, decreased fertility, and growth and learning delays in babies and children...

    The clearest finding from the new research, Schaider says, is that people who dined at home the most had lower levels of PFAS. For every 100 calories of non-restaurant food eaten at home, blood levels of five types of PFAS were 0.32 percent lower...

    When people eat out, their food may be more likely to come into contact with PFAS-containing boxes and wrappings, according to Schaider, and those chemicals could be migrating into food, according to this study and previous research. The foods people eat while dining out could potentially be more likely to contain PFAS, she says...

    Companies that make food packaging have been moving away from using PFAS over the past few years, says Peaslee. But even if burger wrappers and pizza boxes are becoming less likely to be a source of PFAS, some newer types of food packaging may still be problematic. For example, this year, in partnership with The New Food Economy, a nonprofit news website focused on food, Peaslee tested a number of supposedly eco-friendly compostable bowls that restaurants have started to use in an effort to move away from plastics. All of those bowls contained PFAS...

    Industry representatives say that these newer PFAS chemicals are safe. "New FluoroTechnology products are based on different chemistry, and this new chemistry has a favorable health and safety profile," Rob Simon, a spokesman for the FluoroCouncil, previously told CR. FluoroCouncil representatives did not respond to a request for comment for this story.

    But many scientists are not convinced. "What we're finding out about the other [newer] compounds isn't good," says Davies. Data indicates newer PFAS chemicals stay in the human body for weeks or months instead of years—as the older chemicals do—but that's still long enough for them to accumulate at worrying levels, according to Schaider.
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