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    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    I know of a fellow in east Texas who has not been paying property taxes on his land for several years. They haven't taken it from him, but it's not for lack of trying - they are persistently on him. A mutual friend turned him onto the Rod Class material. He studied it, filed some documents with the court, and then made a special appearance. They cleared the courtroom for his case, and then told him, "We'll get back to you on this."
    While I admire your friend's moxy, most of us cannot live in such a state of constant uncertainty. The government has declared war on private property and is forcing free men to live off the grid and under the tax-collectors radar to survive. This is why the economy is grinding to a halt. I tell my son: "You don't want to own a home; anything you do own is a potential target of taxation or outright siezure; the business of the future is a cash business; to work on the books today is to be a wage slave and a sap."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Son-of-Liberty View Post
    Good point Mamboni. Property tax is the one area that really bothers me because i haven't found a workable solution to get out of it. If you have a decent piece of land you can always produce most of what you need from it even if everything else goes to shit. But if they keep raising property taxes they could steal pretty much everything away form you.
    There is a book called The final solution to property tax not sure it would work but, may be worth a look.

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    most of us cannot live in such a state of constant uncertainty.
    Life itself is uncertain. Certainty (in general) is an illusion. As a MD you should know this based upon your own observations and experiences.

    You don't want to own a home
    Question: WHO in this country OWNS their land?

    Answer: ONLY those who don't pay property taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    Life itself is uncertain. Certainty (in general) is an illusion. As a MD you should know this based upon your own observations and experiences.



    Question: WHO in this country OWNS their land?

    Answer: ONLY those who don't pay property taxes.
    Amen......
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    Why doesn't the government have to pay property tax?

    How Much Land Does the Federal Government Own?
    By Gary DeMar | Published: October 1, 2009

    you know how much land in the United States is owned by the Federal Government? It’s shocking:

    Nevada : 84.5%
    Alaska: 69.1%
    Utah: 57.4%
    Oregon: 53.1%
    Idaho: 50.2%
    Arizona: 48.1%
    California: 45.3%
    Wyoming: 42.3%
    New Mexico: 41.8%
    Colorado: 36.6%
    See map http://bigthink.com/ideas/21343

    http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.c...west.jpg?w=300
    DON'T TAKE THE VACCINE!

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    most of us cannot live in such a state of constant uncertainty
    Of course that's what the infernal human parasites are counting on, that come hell or high water 'self-respecting' people will WORK DILIGENTLY AND PERSISTENTLY to build and maintain their own little piece of the illusion - therefore no tax burden is too great. And thus, one day your tax subsidy (that which you're *allowed* to keep) WILL BE CUT OFF. It isn't being called 'austerity measures' here - yet, but that's precisely what this 'debt ceiling' *debate* is all about.
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    They are using it as a game of chicken, pitting those who get a monthly check from the government (food stamps, welfare, SS, disability, veterans pensions etc) against those that pay into the system.

    Obama an Co. probably figure raising the debt ceiling and sending the checks out just short of the Aug 2 deadline will get everyone nervous enough that we will give them a pass for raising the debt ceiling. Maybe they won't and then after a few days of mayhem and rioting n the streets they will be able to pass any legislation and debt raising measures they want. We'll have to wait and see.
    You think that the machine is so powerful that you can't fight, when the reality is that you're the battery that powers the machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son-of-Liberty View Post
    They are using it as a game of chicken, pitting those who get a monthly check from the government (food stamps, welfare, SS, disability, veterans pensions etc) against those that pay into the system.

    Obama an Co. probably figure raising the debt ceiling and sending the checks out just short of the Aug 2 deadline will get everyone nervous enough that we will give them a pass for raising the debt ceiling. Maybe they won't and then after a few days of mayhem and rioting n the streets they will be able to pass any legislation and debt raising measures they want. We'll have to wait and see.
    I assert that is much bigger than the socio-economic hooliganism by gov.org and bankster parasites in '33.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamboni View Post
    The government has declared war on private property
    This happened in 1933 with gold confiscation. It was the opening salvo, merely a skirmish, not the entire war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    Of course that's what the infernal human parasites are counting on, that come hell or high water 'self-respecting' people will WORK DILIGENTLY AND PERSISTENTLY to build and maintain their own little piece of the illusion - therefore no tax burden is too great. And thus, one day your tax subsidy (that which you're *allowed* to keep) WILL BE CUT OFF. It isn't being called 'austerity measures' here - yet, but that's precisely what this 'debt ceiling' *debate* is all about.
    This is precisely why I chose to try and opt out on my own now instead of having that choice made for me in the not so distant future when I may not be as prepared to take such a gigantic leap. Taxes that are raised are not soley income taxes but also taxes we pay on basics like food, fuel, water etc...That's not to mention if these taxes forces businesses to close under the weight of them.
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